OSX Tiger Back-up solutions

Hello,
Does anyone have any suggestions regarding a uniform way to back-up one's entire computer using OSX Tiger 10.4.10. onto a exterior harddrive. A way to back up the entire hd and that would denote what date it was last performed. I guess something like time machine for tiger.

Look at Mac Backup - Mac Backup Software, Hardware, and Guides for Your Mac
http://macs.about.com/od/usingyourmac/tp/backuphub.htm
You can use CarbonCopy Cloner @ http://www.bombich.com/software/ccc.html , or SuperDuper @ http://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescription.html , or IBackup @ http://www.grapefruit.ch/iBackup/index.html , or the Restore function of Disk Utility included in OS X.
 Cheers, Tom

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Old Applications & files won't open in OSX-Tiger/Classic

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I finished my Powerbook's hardware upgrade with success yesterday(with thanks to JPL, Sig, A_Brody and other's great advice). System is now Powerbook G3 400 Firewire with 512mbRam, new 40GB HDD, and OS-X Tiger. However...
I can't seem to get the older Applications or their files to open. I get the error message:
"There is no default application specified to open the document Appleworks 6"
and/or
"Could not be opened because the application that created it could not be found--- could not find a translation extension with appropriate translators"
The upgrade/update procedure included...
===Back-up all files on the old 10GB HDD to an external USB drive.
===Remove old and replace w/new 40GB HDD, also install new 512MB PC-133 RAM module in lower slot.
===booted from old OS CD and ran Hard drive set-up utility with two partitions, one 30GB the other 10GB.
===Install OS 9.0.4 from that original Apple software CD onto the first 30GB partition.
===Onto same partition, ran OS-9 Update 9.1.0, then 9.2.1, then fireware update 4.1.8f5, then Update 9.2.1
===Installed OS-X Tiger onto the first 30GB partition
===Moved all backed-up files from the external USB drive onto the second 10GB partition.
I have tried running the old applications in both OS-X Classic mode and also after changing the "Start-up Disk" to the smaller partition (which should be a clone of how the original Hard drive was set-up i.e. folder structure etc.)
I'm quite surprised that when re-booting to the smaller partiton, that although it looks just like my system prior to upgrading, the apps don't run and the files don't open those older apps that created them. I assumed that the smaller Partition--and booting to it--would be the same as if the original Hard drive was still in the powerbook.
When I get those error messages above, I have followed the "Choose Application" button thru to where I could choose the application. I follow to the "Applications (Mac OS 9" folder to where the actual APPLEWORKS 6 app (for exmaple) is located, but it is greyed out and can't be selected. BTW later I did copy all of the contents of the original "Applications" folder from the backed-up HDD into the OSX "Applications Mac OS 9" folder. Also note, the apps in that folder are listed as KIND "Unix Executable File". The files (in this case AppleWorks files) are also listed as that file KIND.
===In the OSX's System Preferences/System/Classic/Advanced tab, I have tried the REBUILD DESKTOP procedure--with no effected change. I know I read elsewhere in discussions that there was a procedure to re-boot with a certain keyboard held-key combo that allows to re-build desktop upon booting?? I don't remember the keyboard combo. And,not certain how that procedure is different.
===In the change Start-Up disc Utility, I now see four Systems to choose from...
Mac OSX 10.4 on New 30GB HD
Mac OS 9.2.2 on New 30GB HD
Mac OS on Old 10GB HD (that's the smaller partition),
Mac OS 9.2.2 on New 30GB HD
Network Start-up
Both the second and forth choice will boot-up to OS 9.2, but as mentioned the apps won't run and files won't open
I'm guessing the reason the third choice won't boot (it reverts back to OSX Tiger when I try) is because that original System copy is OS 9.0.4 (backed-up prior to running the OS-9.1 and 9.2.1, 9.2.2 updates.). Also note, when in OS 9.2.2 when I go into that Utility... Apple/Control Panels/Startup Disk it doesn't list the old OS on the smaller partition. BTW could I now run/perform the OS-9 updates to bring that System on the smaller HD partition up to OS-9.2.2 with out causing problems (and maybe providing solutions?)
I wonder...
??? Why would I be having to choose which application would open an application---wouldn't an app open on its own (Unix Executable File")
??? When I moved the orig HD back-ups on the external USB drive I noticed a file with some kind of PC icon was being created within the folder. Currently I see that the file is now displayed as FINDER.DAT. Does this file relate to the error that refers to "appropriate translators"? Could the Apple Macintosh files being backed-up onto an external USB drive that may not have been formated as Apple HFS type be causing a problem?
??? Why wouldn't the smaller 10GB partition with the old HDD back-up copy moved to it not function like the original Hard drive? Particularly when I choose to boot to its SYSTEM w/Start-up Disc? BTW when I choose that route, the powerbook just boots to OSX Tiger.
THANKS for any replies, you all have been a great help with the challenges of upgrading...
MSG-PWRBkG3
PS:
Sorry for the long post. But, I have included as much up-front details as possible to assist in your replies. I also want to help others reading this thread later on as to what (correct or incorrect) procedures were followed... to help them see how these in-compatibility scenerios would be similiar to their situations... leading to solutions for all.

Thank you for including as much detail as you did. It makes it much easier to troubleshoot this type of issue. What I'll do is basically follow along with the procedure you used and point out where you (unknowingly) ran into problems.
"Back-up all files on the old 10GB HDD to an external USB drive."
Okay, I'm betting that this external USB drive was formatted as PC-Exchange/Windows format. Since this type of disk format doesn't have native support for the special "Mac" information about files (such as resource forks and HFS metadata like file type and creator codes), when Mac OS writes files to these disks, it needs to use a special method. When you copy the files from OS 9, OS 9 adds special "FINDER.DAT" files and also stores the resource-fork-parts of the original files inside a "RESOURCE.FRK" folder on the disk. My FAQ goes into more detail about this. When, from OS 9, you look at the files you just copied to the PC-formatted disk, and they appear identical to the files on your original 10 GB hard drive, that is in fact a complete illusion. The files as they exist on the PC-formatted disk are very different from what they appear. When you hook it up to your OS 9 Mac, the files appear fine, and you can copy them and have them work just like the original files did. If, on the other hand, you hook this PC-formatted hard drive up to your OS X Mac, it looks at the files in a completely different way. If you copy the files off of this disk from OS X, most of the files won't be usable.
"Remove old and replace w/new 40GB HDD, also install new 512MB PC-133 RAM module in lower slot."
"booted from old OS CD and ran Hard drive set-up utility with two partitions, one 30GB the other 10GB."
"Install OS 9.0.4 from that original Apple software CD onto the first 30GB partition."
"Onto same partition, ran OS-9 Update 9.1.0, then 9.2.1, then fireware update 4.1.8f5, then Update 9.2.1"
"Installed OS-X Tiger onto the first 30GB partition"
"Moved all backed-up files from the external USB drive onto the second 10GB partition."
If you did this from OS X, you will run into problems, whereas if you do this from OS 9, you'll be okay. The reason for this, as I mentioned above, is that OS X doesn't know how to "see" the files in the same way that OS 9 does.
This is what I would do. Make sure you still have the PC-formatted drive with the files you backed up from OS 9. Reboot into one of your versions of OS 9 that works properly. Hook up the external USB drive, and the files on it should appear properly and function properly. Now copy the files over onto your local hard drive and they should work properly as well. The files that you copied over from OS X won't be useful and can be deleted. Then reboot into OS X and you should be all set.
Hope this helps....
Dual 2.7 GHz PowerPC G5 w/ 2.5 GB RAM Mac OS X (10.4.5)

Going from iPhone 3GS to iPhone 5 and Mac OSX Tiger

Hello,
I currently have one of the first Intel Mac Book Pro's running OSX Tiger. I also have a 3GS running ios 4.1 which I'm about to upgrade to the iPhone 5.
What is the best way to back-up/transfer my contacts/txt's/etc from my 3GS to my 5? I can't run the latest version of iTunes and eventually this year I will upgrade to a new iMac which would solve the problem...but for now I would like to transfer all my data over.
Thanks,
Mike

The problem with that is my current iphone is running ios 4.1 and my laptop is running tiger so I don't have icloud. Without upgrading to snow leopard and then to lion/mountian lion to get icloud is there any other option?

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I dropped my laptop and the hard drive is no longer working. I am going to purchase a new hard drive and install it but my question is how do i get OSX LION back on the computer? I will be installing a new bare drive and I heard that Lion is download only. I also want to make sure i get all the apps i had back too. any help or guidance is appreciated. thanks!

this is my opinion. but in this case, you need to install previous OS that has a dvd, which in my case, i installed Snow Leopard first. it cost 30 dollars new.
after you have SL operates and do all software updates, you can download lion and install it over snow leopard.
hope someone here have a better and quicker solution straight to Lion.

Mac mini OSX Tiger 10.4.11 Upgrade options?

Dear All,
I am confused.
I have a mac mini 1.1 Intel Core Duo 1.83GHz with 2 GB RAM. (which i bought June 2007 and upgraded)
Its currently running OSX Tiger 10.4.11.
I have lost the original disks that shipped with the mac and I want to erase and install the OS so it like its brand new again. Over the years I have installed loads of rubbish programs etc and just want to back up itunes and iphoto and start from new.
Is it possible to just buy the latest OS Mountain Lion on disk for about £15 and perform an erase and install?
What confuses me is: someone mentioned that i have to purchase each of the OSs (so 10.5, 10.6 and so on) this seems a bit extreme as I dont want to upgrade, but install fresh.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

Core Duo won't work for beyond 10.6.8.
If it's a core Duo & not a Core2Duo, then it'll only run in 32 bit mode.
You need to get 10.6 & update to 10.6.8 first to be able to buy it from the App Store & download it.
Snow Leopard/10.6.x Requirements...
General requirements
   * Mac computer with an Intel processor
    * 1GB of memory (I say 4GB at least, more if you can afford it)
    * 5GB of available disk space (I say 30GB at least)
    * DVD drive for installation
    * Some features require a compatible Internet service provider; fees may apply.
    * Some features require Apple’s MobileMe service; fees and terms apply.
Which apps work with Mac OS X 10.6?...
http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/
It's been pulled from the online store, so you have to call Apple to buy it, last I heard, but quick, call before it's gone!
Call Apple 1-800-MY-APPLE
Lion/101.7 System requirements
    •    x86-64 processor (Macs with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Intel Core i3, Intel Core i5, Intel Core i7, or Xeon processor.)
    •    At least 2GB of memory, I say 6 GB
    •    Latest version of Mac OS X Snow Leopard (10.6.8), with the Mac App Store installed
    •    At least 4GB of disk space for downloading, I say 50 GB.
Like Snow Leopard, Lion does not support PowerPC-based Macs (e.g., Power Macs, PowerBooks, iBooks, iMacs (G3-G5), eMacs).
Lion also does not support 32-bit Intel Core Duo or Core Solo based Macs. Rosetta is no longer available in Lion, which means Lion no longer supports PowerPC applications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_Lion#System_requirements
http://www.apple.com/macosx/how-to-buy/
What applications are not compatible with Mac OS X 10.7 "Lion"?
http://ow.ly/5Iz09
http://roaringapps.com/apps:table

Installation Problems: OSX Tiger

Hi all,
I have a G4 iMac, I had 10.3.9 Panther on there, and I was starting to have some issues with space and computer running slow, and just recently my Quicktime7Pro just stopped working all together. SO... I got myself a 250GB LaCie Disk external HD and OSX Tiger.
I took all my files and made backups of them on the external hd, then I ejected it, turned its power off and unplugged it and everything else that was unecessary. I then put in my OSX Tiger Install DVD. It's brand new, I just bought it yesterday!!! (2/28/07 @ 10am) I put it in and the system loaded. It said it was finished and it was going to restart. The computer shut down, and restarted and came to the loading screen, the bar went 100% filled and then it came to a blue screen.
THIS IS WHERE I'M HAVING PROBLEMS!!! The top right corner will have the mouse cursor fade in, the "umbrella" will spin, then back to mouse, and fade out. Then it will change to a more of a greener/lighter blue and will have the lines "sun ray" loader. Then back to the normal blue (more cyan) and the cursor will fade in, umbrella, fade out etc. Over and over again. It won't go anywhere. I read the OSX Tiger booklet. I put the DVD back in (YES! it is retail!). I held C down. Waited. I chose the startup disk I wanted, and the computer froze. I had to shut it down and reboot. I followed the same steps, except this time it worked, but took me back to this mysterious blue>lightblue>blue>lightblue screen of death! I just wanted to start with a fresh HD on my iMac with Tiger, and now I can't even use my computer.
I read this thread: http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=818804
And s/he had similar problems. I just could really use some guidance here. I don't know how I'm ever going to be able to use my computer again, and I really don't have the $ to take it to a shop and get charged $200 for someone to install software that I could've done with a little bit of help.
All help is definately welcome, and more than appreciated. Thanks in advance.
-Mace

Hi mace510,
first of all: WELCOME TO THE DISCUSSIONS!
Did you buy the disks from the Apple Store? Are they black or gray? Did you follow this procedure: 10.4 Tiger Upgrade: Decision tree+checklist? It shows which steps you could have taken to ensure a successfull upgrade. Please go through the list and tell us which points you did NOT cover. It might help to diagnose the problem.

Can OSX tiger or earlier be installed into a 8600/300 PowerMac?

Hi all,
Can OSX tiger or earlier be installed into a PowerMac 8600/300? I have OS 9.1 currently. If so, will it be easy to install? Thanks for your help.

OS X can only be installed on machines using G3 or later processors. Tiger requires a minimum of 256 MBs of RAM. Earlier versions of OS X required 128 MBs of RAM. These are minimum requirements. OS X requires a hard drive with a minimum of 6 GBs for installation but practically you need at least a 10 GB or larger hard drive. The hard drive must be formatted HFS+ (Mac OS Extended.)
It is possible to install OS X (probably not Tiger) using a freeware utility called XPostFacto (VersionTracker or MacUpdate). However, the computer must still have the minimum RAM and hard drive space.
Because of the heavy graphic overhead demanded by OS X I don't believe you will be pleased with the performance on such an old machine.
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How do I uninstall OSX Tiger?

I'll get right to the point. I need to remove OSX Tiger from my Mac. It has never run properly since installation over a year ago (just too slow) and I have been running on 10.2.8 instead (the two OS are on separate hard drives). Now the computer is exhibiting some strange symptoms, and I'm trying to remove everything non-essential to help me figure out where/what the problem might be.
I tried dragging the Tiger System folder to the trash but was told that I couldn't do that because "this item is owned by the root". How do I get rid of Tiger? Don't get me wrong, I have Tiger on my other Mac and love it, but it just isn't compatible with my older machine unless I make some expensive upgrades.
Thanks for any help you can give me!

Hi Tomellis. I know you said that you have two drives in your Mac. If you have one, use an external drive to backup EVERYTHING before you do anything.
Trust me, when the fatal QT 7.2 update crashed my MBP, I was very thankful to have a backup drive just incase.
After you backup your data (remember, the backup is just incase something happens), you could take the original install disks that came with your Mac. Then you could boot off of it and use the "archive and install" feature to box-up Tiger in one folder on one of your internal hard drives and you could put Jaguar or Panther back on. Your posts say you have a Blueberry G3, so I'm guessing you had Jaguar.
My Tiger disks had many features to choose from, so you should start there.
You don't have to backup your stuff, but I'd recommend it because it could help.
Hope you fix up your Mac the way you want it.
-TheNewMacca

OSX TIGER description spelling mistake?

Sorry but i could not find a forum to place this in but on the main Apple page in the software section, they present the up coming OSX Tiger here is there description
"We took our best thinking from Mac OS X and brought it to the iPhone. Then we took our best thinking from the iPhone and brought it to iPad. And now we’re bringing it all back to the Mac with our eighth major release of the world’s most advanced operating system. Mac OS X Lion arrives in summer 2011. Here’s a sneak peek at just a few of its features."
any one noticed their spelling mistake? "eighth"

sorry not O S X Tiger, I ment O S X Lion hahaha

Trouble Upgrading to OSX Tiger

I've searched the forums but can't find an answer to my problem. I have a Power Mac G4 (tower). It was runing 9.? and I wanted to install Tiger onto it. The computer meets all of the system requirements but when I put the install disk in and clicked install, then restart, I get a blue screen...or a "you need to restart your computer" message. I went throug the trouble shooting (making sure there were no third party hardware installed...it's just like it was when it arrived from Apple...thowing away the fonts, etc.) I ran Norton Utilities and found no problems, then did something stupid, I erased the hard drive thinking I could start up from the OSX Tiger instal disk. But that was a mistake. So, I went back to my OS( install disk and reinstalled OS9. I did an erase install to make sure that the only things on the computer were OS9 things, no software, no additional stuff, etc.
Now I restarted the computer, it's running on OS( just fine. I can access the internet, etc. But when I insert the OSX install disk, I get the same result...the apple icon with a spinning icon below it, then a blue screen with an arrow cursor...and nothing. I tired again and got the "you need to restart your computer" error. I cannot get Tiger installed. Can anyone help? (By the way it's a multiple lisence install disk, with 5 installs on it, and I've only used two (g5 powerbook laptop and new g5 imac.)
I can be reached at [email protected] or [email protected]
Thanks,
Sean Riley

Welcome to Apple Discussions!
Norton is unsafe to use with Mac OS X.
There is no such thing as a Powerbook G5.
It sounds like you may have some hardware on your machine that does not jibe well with Mac OS X's installer. First make sure that the firmware is updated while you can boot the machine into Mac OS 9. To find out which PowerMac G4 you have see this article:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58418
And that will tell you from this article which firmware needs to be updated if any:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117
If the firmware is updated, and you are erase and installing Tiger, and no third party peripherals, drives, or cards are in the tower and you are getting a four language screen (called a kernel panic) starting to boot from Mac OS X, then you might assume the hardware on your machine is damaged in some way. One of the most common four language you must restart causes is bad RAM. RAM may be good under Mac OS 9, but not work at all under Mac OS X. Make your you have at least 512 MB of RAM, and it is to system specifications.

Logging into OSX Tiger from Vista

I can log into Tiger from my Win2000 machine, but I'm having trouble logging into OSX Tiger from Vista.
I got 1/2 way in using the login format:
Computername@login_name
And pass
- so it shows all Tiger drives - but then could not open a drive...
Any Ideas how to login in?

Had the same problem with Vista and OS X 10.2.8 and 10.4.8 sometime ago and found this solution somewhere in a forum:
If any of you are having problems with Vista logon to NAS devices running Samba, try:
Run secpol.msc (type it in the Vista start menu search field)
Go to: Local Policies > Security Options
Find “Network Security: LAN Manager authentication level”
Change Setting from “Send NTLMv2 response only”
to
“Send LM & NTLM - use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated”
Vista defaults to only send the more secure NTLMv2 protocol, which these NAS devices / Samba do not support.
Hope this helps - worked for me....

Help!! accidentally install OSX Tiger into my backup harddisk!!

Help! accidentally install OSX Tiger into my backup harddisk!!
i lost all my backup files, work, my life! i have 2 HDD and one is suppose to be installed onto and the other one is my backup hdd..
what happened is i selected onto the wrong hard-disk...
is there anything i can do to recover back files that i installed over osx?
any suggestion much appreciated

Hi Ma'e, Welcome to Apple Discussions.
Installing OS X should not overwrite your files unless you chose "erase and install". If you chose "Archive and install" look for a folder on the top level of your hard drive called "Previous System".
If you did an "erase and install", If there is any chance of recovery at all your best bet is Prosoft Data Rescue. There is a free trial to see if it can recover what you need. But don't do another process on that drive until you've downloaded and run it. Also, a service that has been recommended but I cannot personally endorse is DriveSavers.
-mj
[email protected]

Help Installing OSX Tiger on iMac G4, seems HD Volume Structure corrupted

I need help Installing OSX Tiger on an iMac G4 800MHz 17" Flat Screen LCD, 80 GB Hard Drive, 256MB RAM, DVD-R/CD-RW Super Drive, model# M8812LL/A. I have a Tiger install DVD and i put it in the drive and everything is fine....I go through the steps and when it gets to "Preparing the Disk" - "Verifying destination volume"....it just sits and nothing happens. It will go on for 20+ minutes or so and then the installer will quit saying there was errors during the update. Anyone got any idea what is happening? I'm running OSX 10.3 Panther currently. I just tried running Disk Utility using the install DVD.....it attempted three times and couldn't repair --- I then went out and purhased DiskWarrior --- I boot from that disk, it begins to run; then as it is repairing the volume it freezes and stays frozen for hours. I've rebooted and tried it numerous times with no luck. Is the HD no good? Should I just do a complete reinstall of Tiger and erase everything? I'd rather not, but I backed everthing up in case I need to. Also, when I ran TechTool Deluxe from the booted CD, it said the Volume Structure was corrupted. My Tiger disc is a retail full install disc that I purchased.
Thanks for your help!!!

Use Disk Utility to Restore to a FW drive.
Use one of your FW drives, and create a 24GB partition - later you can reuse this for your emergency boot drive). Restore the DVD to FW volume. Boot from there to install with - very fast.
Low level format is what you probably want/need and the only way to do that is ERASE with the option to ZERO-ALL (after you backup any files you don't now have on disk or DVD.... and where are the backups?).
When you install it will also verify the DVD install disk itself.
Have you tried using FSCK from the command line? Or do you no longer have a valid system on the boot drive? Nothing to lose it seems at this point from trying. Just hold down COMMAND + S on startup. At the prompt, follow direction to type:
/sbin/fsck -fy

Help formating and installing osx tiger

hi everyone!
can anyone help on how to uninstall osx tiger from a mbp-that is clean clear my hard drive- and installing it again.is this even possible?
thanx!

ola aqua!
ok thanx.look in the mean time i was having a look at the documentation on the osx installation guide that came with my mbp and there is a part that explains how to erase the hd.should i follow those steps?they seem very right to me..
thanx in any case
star will follow
this is the info i gathered:
"Erasing and Formatting Your Disk
When you install Mac OS X, you can erase the destination disk. To do this, click Options in the "Select a Destination" pane of the Installer. Select "Erase and Install" and then choose a format. In most cases, choose Mac OS Extended (Journaled).
Important: Because the "Erase and Install" option erases your destination disk, you should back up your essential files before installing Mac OS X.
You can also divide your hard disk into several partitions before you install Mac OS X. To do this, choose Utilities > Open Disk Utility and click Partition. Partitioning erases the entire hard disk, so be sure to back up your essential files first. Follow the instructions above to install Mac OS X and applications.
Note: Before you can install the applications that came with your computer on a partition, Mac OS X must be installed on the partition."
im just not sure i understood the partition thing but ill have a closer look and ill sort it out ,i guess-hope!!
many thanx
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MPEG2 codec not working in Final Cut Pro on Mac OSX Tiger

We have been using the File-export-Quicktime Conversion-MPEG2 codec for exporting of files from Final Cut Pro to DVD Studio Pro. On the new mac system that was just bought, the option does not show up.
Currently the system is running Quicktime Pro 7.1.2/ FCP 5 and DVD Studio Pro 4 and it is a new mac system running Mac OSX Tiger.
This problem has happened before on a mac running on an older system, but that was solved by reinstalling FCP and then DVD Studio pro and making sure that the QT Pro was of the latest version.
Right now, we have reinstalled everything the same way, tried installing DVD Studio Pro after, we have also done a full software update of the software over the net.
The codec is still not working, all the macs in the office are supposed to be upgraded to Mac osx tiger, but right now we can't do so, cos then we wouldn't be able to burn any DVDs.
Please help, thanks.

The installation of QT 7 is the culprit behind the missing MPEG-2 Export Component. But during upgrades, it doesn't always get rid of the file ... probably what happened on your older system when you upgraded to QT 7 or Tiger. Either the new system came with QT 7 preinstalled, therefore not including the Export Component, or if it was upgraded, the upgrade missed it.
-DH

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