OT Lightroom shipping

I would be interested to know if many PSE users are buying this. I would download the trial but I don't know if it would offer much to users such as myself.
Hmm ... Spend $199 and save $100.
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/
I don't know if there are other "software packrats" here like me, I have bought just about all the paint and photo editing programs that I am aware of. I have also installed many of the open source and freeware goodies out there.
If I could do it over I would just bite the bullet and buy the full fledged Photoshop and be done with it.
This should have been a separate OT I know, need more !C*O*F*F*E*E!

I also downloaded the betas of LR and messed around with them, without fully going over (and very glad that I did not!), and I installed the v1.0 trial yesterday. I imported my 29000 file Elements 5 library overnight, and have tried using it some today. My first impressions just aren't very positive.
First, the reason why I'm glad I did not switch over to LR during the beta period. After installing v1, it tried to convert my beta library file and errored out, saying it was corrupted or something. I had to delete my library and create a new one, which wasn't a big deal for me since I had just imported a couple of folders to test with, but would be if I had completely switched over to using LR.
Next, after importing my Elements library (which it did a good job of, by the way, even getting all the tags), Lightroom has become just frustratingly slow. My PC should be fairly well-spec'd for it, an Athlon 64 x2 3800+ (dual core) and 1.5G of ram, running Vista. Yet the interface just feels clunky, and it uses up a lot of RAM. PSE5 on the other hand is fine. There are also various problems here and there which you can read about on the Lightroom forum.
My overall impression of the software is that it just simply was not ready for release yet. For all the hoopla about the improved workflow, I find that the program simply slows me down too much, and becomes a test of my patience.

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