[Other 865 Series] 865GM2-LS - power cuts out immediately after turning on.

I wonder if anyone could help me, as I am a bit out of ideas. I've done a search on this forum, and though there are a few people similar problems, there does not seem to be an answer.
I have basically tried to build a PC from scratch for the first time (the specs are below) I'm pretty sure it is all connected up correctly, yet when I turn it on, the lights come on and the fan turns for a fraction of a second and then the power cuts out.
If I then attempt to turn it on again I get no power at all. If I disconnect/reconnect the power supply from the motherboard and try again I get the lights and fan again for a split second.
I have checked and double check the connections, reset the CMOS by moving the jumper as in the manual, and I am pretty much out of ideas. These are completely new components, no s/w on the HD at all etc. I've checked the pins for the ATX 20-Pin and ATX 12V and they seem OK. One thing I can think of is there is a power connecter next to the one for the CPU fan for the system fan. I do not have this connected to anything as the fan that comes with the case connects directly to the PSU. Do I need a system fan as well or is this an either or thing?
Motherboard:
P4 HT+ FSB800+M.ATX +Graphics+DualDDR400+LAN+S.ATA
MSI P/N:865GM2-LS
Processor:
Pentium 4 3.2GHz 478P 800MHz 0.09u 1Mb Cache
(Part No:BX80546PG3200E)
Memory:
Aries 1GB PC3200 DDR 400MHz DIMM Memory
(Part No: 1GBPC3200DDR)
Hard Drive:
DiamondMax 200GB 7200RPM 8MB Cache IDE HDD Maxtor
(Part No:6L200P0 )
Floppy:
Sony Internal FDD
No optical drives installed yet.
Case:
Midi Tower ATX PC Case & 350W PSU (Clear Side)
Aries P/N:ATX-9980
Include PSU (specs below)
MODEL: ATX-400
Max Output = 400W
Input
115VAC
10A Max
60Hz
230VAC
5A Max
50Hz
Output
+12V 18A max
+5V 40A max
+3.3V 28A max
-5V 0.5A max
-12V 0.5A max
+12V 18A max
+5V/SB 2.0A max

Quote from: blazing storm on 25-June-05, 18:26:54
My fault, wasn't thinking. I meant to type "try running the motherboard outside of the case".
You need to try a better PSU than your current one so the one from your old computer may be no good. Post its +3.3V +5V +12V rail amp values please.
Also try disconnecting all but the essential hardware need to run so unplug hard drive, floppy etc. The problem looks like the power supply to me so buy or borrow a decent one with 20-24A minimum on the +12V rail. If you need help finding a power supply just ask.
That would be very much appreciated, I've had a look around the usual web suppliers and they don't seem to want to provide that kind of information for their PSUs.
The old PSU doesn't seem to have the info printed on it, but it is quite old, so I suppose it's unlikely it's going to be much better than the new one.
Will try running it outside from the case. I take it this is in case the thing I have mounted it to is shorting it? If this is the case, is there a trick to ensuring against this?
Quote from: Blazer on 25-June-05, 10:56:22
make sure no OC settings are used and set DDR voltage to 2.60-2.70 to get sys stable and work down as needed.
How do I do this? Pretty sure I have no OC settings as I have left all jumpers alone apart from the CMOS one. How would I set the DDR voltage?

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