Out of order library

I'm running itunes 5.0.1., and yesterday i finally got around upgrading to tiger. anyway, today when i'm trying to play music out of library folder - the songs are playing in a random order. in other words - i do a search function for say "abbey road" to list all the tracks of that album in the library window. then i start at the beginning and play down. only instead of going from track 1 to track 2 .... itunes will go from track 1 to track 5 to track ????
anyone else have this problem? know how to address it?

Zachary hello,
welcome to the Apple Discussions check the iTunes preferences > playback tab and see what is selected for shuffle... songs, albums or groupings are the choices...
let's know if that solves your problem Zachary .... TP

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http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2002-9/54100/FileListPic.jpg
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Ok, after hours and hours of hurting my head I found the solution to this.
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