Outdoor wireless Bridge

Hello,
I am looking for recommendation on a Cisco Wireless Bridge, to bridge between two buildings about 500m to 1km appart.
Can someone with this experience please recommend what wireless bridge will satisfy this need.
Product number would be helpfull, so I can find it on the Cisco site.

We use the 1410 that has a built in antenna. A coupel of years ago we installed some with external panel antennas, but saw no advantage. The internal antenna eliminates one more point of failure, the coax and connector required for an external antenna.
The 1400 series is built like an army tank and is ready to mount outdoors with no additional enclosure.
We are using them in one-to-one bridge mode, and also in an access point mode serving up to five or six buildings all looking at it with their 1400 series bridge.

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Wireless Bridging and WLC

Hi everyone,
We were planning to perform outdoor wireless bridging between different buildings in a city.
I wanted to know if it was necessary to install a Wireless LAN controller for this kind of deployment (outdoor only) ?
Thanks!
Regards,
Fadel

Well what is the requirement for the link. The Exalt bridges do a good job and you can get up to 160mbps half duplex. The mesh is a bit more expensive and are intended not for such a long distance but requires a WLC. If you require higher throughput, then you need to look at another vendors point to point bridging.
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Connectivity Issues with 1400 Wireless Bridge

Just seeing if anyone has run into a similar problem....I have two 1400 outdoor wireless bridges. They have been in place for a couple of years without issue. This past week, the non-root bridge began dropping it's association, at first randomly, then consistently. Both bridges have been replaced, antennas (AIR-ANT58G10SSA-N) on both have been replaced, and a spectrum analyzer has been used to verify there is not a problem over the air...the ditance between the two is >=1000 feet. Debugs show no reason for the drop, and when the two are asscoaited, the RSSI is averaging around -78. It had been down since Thursday, then last night, as another step in the process of elimination, we replaced the power injector on the root side, and the two bridges associated. They were up for two hours, then went down again, and then started going up and down randomly. As an additional step in the process of elimnation, we are now going to move the power source that the PI is connected to. Anyone ever run into something similar before or have any additional ideas? Thanks in advance.
Below is the most information I can glean from the logs
*Mar 1 06:31:39 pst: %DOT11-4-UPLINK_ESTABLISHED: Interface Dot11Radio0, Associated To AP KAirBridge_Para 0019.566e.be47 [None WPA PSK]
*Mar 1 06:31:39 pst: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
*Mar 1 06:31:41 pst: %DOT11-4-UPLINK_DOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, parent lost: Received deauthenticate (2) not valid
*Mar 1 06:31:41 pst: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down
*Mar 1 06:31:42 pst: %DOT11-4-UPLINK_ESTABLISHED: Interface Dot11Radio0, Associated To AP KAirBridge_Para 0019.566e.be47 [None WPA PSK]
*Mar 1 06:31:42 pst: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to up
*Mar 1 06:32:05 pst: %DOT11-4-UPLINK_DOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, parent lost: Received deauthenticate (2) not valid
*Mar 1 06:32:05 pst: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Dot11Radio0, changed state to down

Yeah, power save is off, the cable run is only about 20 feet. The radio interface was shut down last night so that alerts weren't generated through the night due to flapping, I opened the interface earlier and right now both are up and have been for about an hour. I agree, -78 is not a great signal...currently, looking at the association, the root is at -64 and the non-root is at -62...will update if there is a status change. Thanks.

Wireless bridging is not working in 1552 outdoor access point and 2602e indoor access point.

Hi,
I am have been tested wireless bridging with 2 indoor Cisco 2602 access point by following the attached document and its working fine without any issue.
After then I made one Cisco 1552 EU-M-K9 outdoor access point as RAP, then connect to this RAP with one 2602 mesh access point. But its not working, mesh access point is just start scan the signal to get associate with RAP, but not getting established. Is there any specific configuration required to connect between outdoor and indoor access point. Kindly find the attachment and advise.
regards,
Jubair.S

Hi Team,
Any suggestion??
Regards,
Jubair.S

3502p AccessPoint support MESH and Point-to-Point Wireless Bridging with Outdoor Antennas??

I need to know if 3502p with outdoor antennas supports Point-to-Point Wireless Bridging??

The 3502p is only used for arenas and or stadiums. These are different units than the 3500's and 3600's. So no they can't be.
You can use Cisco Aironet 1400 Series Wireless Bridge for a wireless link between two buildings (1km) to extend your LAN. For more detail you can go through the below link.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/wireless/ps5679/ps5279/ps5285/product_data_sheet09186a008018495c.html

Setup outdoor wireless

I work at a garden. We have many activities in the summer. I setup outdoor wireless using Cisco 1310 wireless bridges, one is root bridge and other is non-root bridge. I find if the non-root bridge behind a tree, the signal reduce from excellent to low. I am using Omni directional antenna. If I have Yagi antenna, will that help? Can I add another AP/repeater/bridge behind the non-root bridge? If yes, how to configure them? Or any other suggestion.
The configuration can be found here:
Sample of Cisco 1310 Wireless Root Bridge
http://www.howtonetworking.com/cisco/rootbridge.htm
Sample of Cisco 1310 Non-Root Bridge Configuration
http://www.howtonetworking.com/cisco/nonrootbridge.htm

This is what we like to do.
Building Switch +++ cat 5 +++ Root Bridge ? 100 feet ?-- 1st Non-root bridge ?-- 200 feet 2nd non root bridge. Between the root bridge and non-root bridge is limited 100 feet because there are some trees and it is not clear path.
So far first two bridges (root bridge and 1st non-root bridge) works fine. We would like to cover more area and we may have another wireless client that can?t reach the 1st non-root bridge, so we need to add 2nd non-root bridge. Do you think if this design is possible? If yes, how to configure it.

Aironet 1300 wireless Bridges connection loss, help!

Hi,
We have 2 Cisco Aironet 1300 wireless bridges with yaggi antennas.
The connection drops sometimes (every 2 or 3 days) and never comes up again.
When we reboot the non-root bridge the connection works again. We swapped the complete unit but still the same.
For logs see attached file.
What can be the problem? The antennas are not aligned correctly?
Thx in advance
greetings,
Marc

How long is the path and what were the results of the survey?
Were the connectors waterproofed?
Please describe the sytem from the bridge to the antenna including cable type, length, path, outdoors, indoors etc.

Wireless Bridge aironet 1410

We have a site with couple of consumer level bridged AP's. We have been recommended a Cisco 1410 wireless bridge but it is very expensive. What are the added features of this bridge and is someone using it? We originally were thinking of replacing the AP's with cisco 1231 AP's and bridging them as it would be cheaper.
Is there a benefit to using a 1410?

The Cisco Aironet 1400 Series Wireless Bridge is the premier high-speed, high-performance outdoor bridging solution for line-of-sight applications, providing features such as:
a) Support for both point-to-point or point-to-multipoint configurations
b) Industry leading range and throughput, supporting data rates up to 54 Mbps
c) Enhanced security mechanisms based on 802.11 and 802.11i standards
d) Ruggedized enclosure optimized for harsh outdoor environments with extended operating temperature range
e) Integrated or optional external antennas for flexibility in deployment
f) Designed specifically for ease-of-installation and operation
More information on the 1400 bridge is available in the data sheet at http://cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps5279/products_data_sheet09186a008018495c.html

AP vs Wireless Bridge in AP mode

What is the difference between AP and Wireless Bridge in AP mode? Or, when to use AP like device and when Wireless Bridge in AP mode?
Thanks for cooperation.
Jovan M., CCNA

BR350 as access points can be used to cover outdoor areas, since they have metal case for durability and plenum rating and an extended operating temperature rating for harsh environments
Other than that BR350 in AP mode is jus similar to AP350(not the pastic ones, the metal plenum rated) if you use for indoor coverage.
From Cisco documentations.
The bridge as a rugged access point connected to the wired LAN. When you select Access Point, the bridge's Spanning Tree Protocol (STP) function is disabled. Figure 3-4 shows a bridge set up as a rugged access point.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps458/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a008007f77f.html#25614
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/wireless/ps458/ps460/index.html

Wireless to Wireless bridge help needed

Folks....
I think I am looking for a wireless to wireless bridge.
My next door neighbor & I are splitting the cost of a fast Internet connection. He is transmitting the signal to me (and to his home) using a WAP54G access point. I can pick up the signal in my yard, but not in the house (well, by one window only).
I want to:
1) receive his signal (wireless), AND re transmit it over my home.
2) I found a nice, high gain directional antenna and mounted it outside and pointed it to his WAP54G. I have run wire from it to the inside of my home.
3) I found a nice omni-directional antenna I have mounted on the top of my home and have run wire to the where the access point will live (this is also the place where the directional wire goes to.
4) I have both Macs and PCs which are wireless. When I take the computers outside the house, they can all connect just fine to my neighbors transmission.
My question:
I *think* (but I am not sure) I can both receive AND transmit from only one access point (say, WAP54G for example). Is this true?
If this is not true, what is a good wireless solution to my above problem? I can not run eithernet cable to my neighbors house. We like to video conference and I do not want to degrade the fast broadband signal. I want a 802.11G solution. A 802.11b solution would be too slow.
I have emailed and spoken to Linksys tech support, but they do not understand me well enough to help me. The emails from them are useless.
I have looking over all the Linksys Knowledge base but have not found the answer.
Can someone point me to a knowledge base about this, or web site, or anything?
I am pulling my hair out. Can someone toss me a bone?
Thanks in advance.
jack

There are several options you could use to do this. If you do a search for wireless CPE's you will find a HOST of Outdoor wireless directional antenna setups running POE so you can tap it RIGHT into any router you may have availible in your home. WRT54G/WRT54GS/Etc. The CPE will run you a pretty penny, but because you are so close to the source signal, I wouldnt suggest getting a CPE with anything more then 14dBi, Which is signifagntly cheaper. This CPE will allow you to run it in bridge mode, and feed it directly to your router. your neighbors router will see the CPE as just another wireless client, and wont even see the router behind the CPE. PRESTO! you have both a wireless internet connection from your neighbors house, but also your OWN independant WIFI solution in YOUR home! and the CPE's are capable of data transfers = to a T1 line, so dont worry about signal or speed degradation. Hope this helps! any more questions, and your welcome to E-mail me at [email protected]
"Did your stupid imaginary dragon just do what I think he did?!" - Dexter

Wireless Bridge that doesn't require coax from injector

Does Cisco have a 5.8 Ghz wireless bridge available that does not require 2 separate strands of Coax between the power injector and the Bridge? I have been looking at the 1400 Bridges but using coax would mean I would have to run about 200 feet of coax x2 from the top of my tower all the way to my wiring closet rather than a simple single outdoor rated cat6 line. Does anyone have any thoughts on this. I need this to be in the unlicensed 5 ghz band and support WPA2.

If you plan it correctly, you can mount your 1400 indoors and run the antenna cable outside and up the tower. This shouldn't be done for long links, and it will drop your signal strength at the antenna.
Other than that, Cisco does not have such a bridge. Your only option would be to mount a 1242 in a NEMA-enclosure on top of the tower.
Keep in mind that Cisco and other cable makers have a dual-strand coax, so it's still one cable you're running.

About Wireless Bridge Failover idea

I would like to set up 2 pair wireless bridge between two site . 1 pair wireless Bridge for normal use. another pair wireless Bridge is used when another pair wireless bridge link is fail
Building A
1 set Cisco Outdoor AP For Exising use (GB C AP)
1 set Cisco Outdoor AP For Back UP (GB D AP)
Building B
1 set Cisco Outdoor AP For Existing use (GB C AP)
1 set Cisco Outdoor AP For Back UP (GB D AP)
Building A
All AP (GB C & GB D AP)connect to cisco 2960 switch
Building B
As same as Buiilding A - All AP (GB C & GB D AP)connect to cisco 2960 switch
For this case, do you have what method for failover solution.
when GB C AP Link is down, data traffic can change to GB D Link to route.
Is it idea possible?
Thanks
John

Hi John,
See whether below post helps you, where I have posted a sample configuration for load balance traffic across two wireless bridge links.
https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/4125800#4125800
I doubted you can configure etherchannel across two wireless bridge links. If you configure two independant bridges & pass same vlans then one end switch ports will be get blocked by STP.
HTH
Rasika
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Wireless bridge can't access windows certificate server

We have 10 Cisco 1200 wireless APs. The VLAN 1 use Windows certificate as authentication and VLAN 100 for the public. They work fine. We just bought two 1310 wireless bridges for outdoor use. We contact Cisco support for setup these two bridges. The wireless can receive the signal but can't logon. The IP is 169.254.x.x. The Certificate server receive Event ID 2 as below. The Cisco engineer can't make it work and he said the setup Windows IAS is not his expertise. Any suggestions how can we fix this issue?
Event Type: Warning
Event Source: IAS
Event Category: None
Event ID: 2
Date: 4/13/2007
Time: 7:41:21 PM
User: N/A
Computer: DEVICES
Description:
User blin was denied access.
Fully-Qualified-User-Name = chicagotech.net/Users/Bob Lin
NAS-IP-Address = 10.0.20.54
NAS-Identifier = Outdoor_1300_2
Called-Station-Identifier = <not present>
Calling-Station-Identifier = <not present>
Client-Friendly-Name = Root Bridge1
Client-IP-Address = 10.0.20.54
NAS-Port-Type = Async
NAS-Port = <not present>
Proxy-Policy-Name = Use Windows authentication for all users
Authentication-Provider = Windows
Authentication-Server = <undetermined>
Policy-Name = All
Authentication-Type = PAP
EAP-Type = <undetermined>
Reason-Code = 66
Reason = The user attempted to use an authentication method that is not enabled on the matching remote access policy.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 00 00 00 00 ....

There are too many variables at play here, and too many unknowns...both on the server and client side...so it would be hard for anyone to offer suggestions other than the face you should talk to your system/network admins.

Voice vlan priority across wireless bridge network

Hello,
If you have a separate voice vlan across a wireless bridged network, how could you configure qos to put the entire voice vlan in priority over the data vlan ?
Thanks.

Hi Antonis,
Have a look at these docs. Hopefully they will help get you started;
Cisco Aironet 1300 Series Outdoor Access Point/Bridge Software Configuration Guide, 12.3(4) JA
Chapter 14 - Configuring QoS
This chapter describes how to configure quality of service (QoS) on your access point/bridge. With this feature, you can provide preferential treatment to certain traffic at the expense of others. Without QoS, the access point/bridge offers best-effort service to each packet, regardless of the packet contents or size. It sends the packets without any assurance of reliability, delay bounds, or throughput.
From this doc;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00804158a6.html
Giving Priority to Voice Traffic
This section demonstrates how you can apply a QoS policy to your wireless network's voice VLAN to give priority to wireless phone traffic.
In this example, the network administrator creates a policy named voice_policy that applies voice class of service to traffic from Spectralink phones (protocol 119 packets). The user applies the voice_policy to the incoming and outgoing radio ports and to the outgoing Ethernet port for VLAN 77.
Use the Apply Policies to Interface/VLANs drop-down menus to apply policies to the access point Ethernet and radio ports. If VLANs are configured on the access point, drop-down menus for each VLANs' virtual ports appear in this section. If VLANs are not configured on the access point, drop-down menus for each interface appear.
From this doc;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps5861/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00804158a6.html#wp1047736
Hope this helps!
Rob
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Wireless Bridge Resilient Trunk Link

Hi Community folk,
I need some advice on how to set up a dual (resilient) wireless bridge link.

I have each pair of bridges configured trunking vlan 82 native and user vlan 570. Individually they are fine and I get management access on vlan 82 to both bridges and the switch at the remote end of the link, clients patched in to the switch at the remote end in switchport access vlan 570 also get the correct IP address and subsequent access to network resources, individually they are working well. rapid pvst is configured across the network as there are dual 1Gb connections to all access layer switches and this also works fine. My problem is when I enable the second bridge link, this seems to cause a network loop and essentially takes down the whole network, I have left it for a while to see if spanning tree convergence is taking a while but no luck, as soon as I disable the second link everything calms down and I have a good network again. I am posting my root and non-root bridge configurations here but only one of the pairs, the other pair is configured identically but has a different SSID, PSK and channel configured:
ROOT BRIDGE********************************
dot11 syslog
dot11 vlan-name Legacy_Data vlan 570
dot11 vlan-name management vlan 82
dot11 ssid test
vlan 82
authentication open
authentication key-management wpa version 2
infrastructure-ssid
wpa-psk ascii XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
interface Dot11Radio1
no ip address
no ip route-cache
encryption mode ciphers aes-ccm tkip
encryption vlan 82 mode ciphers aes-ccm tkip
ssid test
antenna gain 0
peakdetect
no dfs band block
stbc
channel width 40-below
channel 5280
station-role root bridge
world-mode dot11d country-code GB outdoor
infrastructure-client
interface Dot11Radio1.82
encapsulation dot1Q 82 native
no ip route-cache
no cdp enable
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 subscriber-loop-control
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
bridge-group 1 block-unknown-source
no bridge-group 1 source-learning
no bridge-group 1 unicast-flooding
interface Dot11Radio1.570
encapsulation dot1Q 570
no ip route-cache
no cdp enable
bridge-group 70
bridge-group 70 subscriber-loop-control
bridge-group 70 spanning-disabled
bridge-group 70 block-unknown-source
no bridge-group 70 source-learning
no bridge-group 70 unicast-flooding
interface GigabitEthernet0
no ip address
no ip route-cache
duplex auto
speed auto
interface GigabitEthernet0.82
encapsulation dot1Q 82 native
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
no bridge-group 1 source-learning
interface GigabitEthernet0.570
encapsulation dot1Q 570
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 70
bridge-group 70 spanning-disabled
no bridge-group 70 source-learning
interface BVI1
mac-address xxxx.xxxx.xxxx
ip address 10.xx.xx.xx 255.255.255.0
no ip route-cache
ip default-gateway 10.xx.xx.xx
ip forward-protocol nd
ip http server
no ip http secure-server
bridge 1 priority 9000
bridge 1 protocol ieee
bridge 1 route ip
bridge 70 priority 10000
bridge 70 protocol ieee
line con 0
line vty 0 4
transport input all
end
NON ROOT BRIDGE************************************************************************************
dot11 syslog
dot11 vlan-name Legacy_Data vlan 570
dot11 vlan-name management vlan 82
dot11 ssid test
vlan 82
authentication open
authentication key-management wpa version 2
infrastructure-ssid
wpa-psk ascii xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
interface Dot11Radio1
no ip address
no ip route-cache
encryption mode ciphers aes-ccm tkip
encryption vlan 82 mode ciphers aes-ccm tkip
ssid test
antenna gain 0
peakdetect
stbc
station-role non-root bridge
world-mode dot11d country-code GB outdoor
interface Dot11Radio1.82
encapsulation dot1Q 82 native
no ip route-cache
no cdp enable
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 subscriber-loop-control
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
bridge-group 1 block-unknown-source
no bridge-group 1 source-learning
no bridge-group 1 unicast-flooding
interface Dot11Radio1.570
encapsulation dot1Q 570
no ip route-cache
no cdp enable
bridge-group 70
bridge-group 70
bridge-group 70 subscriber-loop-control
bridge-group 70 spanning-disabled
bridge-group 70 block-unknown-source
no bridge-group 70 source-learning
no bridge-group 70 unicast-flooding
interface GigabitEthernet0
no ip address
no ip route-cache
duplex auto
speed auto
interface GigabitEthernet0.82
encapsulation dot1Q 82 native
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
no bridge-group 1 source-learning
interface GigabitEthernet0.570
encapsulation dot1Q 570
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 70
bridge-group 70 spanning-disabled
no bridge-group 70 source-learning
interface BVI1
mac-address xxxx.xxxx.xxxx
ip address 10.xx.xx.xx 255.255.255.0
no ip route-cache
ip default-gateway 10.xx.xx.xx
ip forward-protocol nd
ip http server
no ip http secure-server
bridge 1 priority 10000
bridge 1 protocol ieee
bridge 1 route ip
bridge 70 priority 12000
bridge 70 protocol ieee
line con 0
line vty 0 4
transport input all
end
Switchport Configurations****************************************************
interface FastEthernet0/23
description Link to root bridge 1
switchport trunk native vlan 82
switchport trunk allowed vlan 82,570
switchport mode trunk
interface FastEthernet0/24
description Link to root bridge 2
switchport trunk native vlan 82
switchport trunk allowed vlan 82,570
switchport mode trunk
BR
Rockford

Hi Rockford,
This should be possible. Check the primary switch set to spanning tree root for your vlans & two different bridges connected ports having different STP port priority for vlan 82 & 570.
Since you are having STP loop I think ports get shutdown.
In case if could have L3 seperation between these two buildings, then you can load balance traffic between those two radio links. Here is a reference post which I posted some tested config for that scenario.
https://supportforums.cisco.com/discussion/12041146/good-solution
If I get time I'll see whether I can do similar thing for your config requirement
HTH
Rasika
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