Outdoor wireless mesh deployment for major events

I am interested to hear if anyone here has any experience in setting up a large scale wireless mesh deployment that covers an area that are a few blocks.
1. How do you deal with 2.4ghz interference as 2.4ghz and 5ghz band are unregulated. I'm not able to use 5ghz as the end devices are smartphones that do not support 5ghz.
2. How do you deal with the backhaul capacity as each hop for Cisco Wireless Mesh would result in a 50% drop in network throughput.
3. How do you deal with installation of the wireless mesh APs in public areas. Do you install this on a mast and leverage on the lamp post to provide power? Or do you talk to building owners to install the APs on the top of buildings? What are the challenges you face in installing wireless mesh APs in a public area.

Hi David,
Here is some info that might help.
Mesh 7.0 design guide
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/technology/mesh/7.0/design/guide/MeshAP_70.html
Enterprise Mobility
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/solutions/Enterprise/Mobility/emob41dg/ch8_MESH.html
1500 Design Guide
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/technology/mesh/design/guide/MeshAP.pdf
1550
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/access_point/1550/quick/guide/ap1550qsg.html#wp57699
1500 install guide
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/access_point/1500/installation/guide/1500_ch2.html
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