Output only through midi keyboard

I have a midi keyboard plugged into my computer using m-Audio's midisport 2x2. i was trying to get playback from logic to speakers becides the ones in the keyboard, but i haven't had any luck. normal system sounds are good, and so is garageband. however if i change the instrument in logic, I get the midi sound that i just chose through the speakers, but also the sound the keyboard plays normally. i.e. i choose drums on logic and get both drum sounds and piano sounds from the keyboard. ive looked through the help, and tried searching through the forums, but could not find how to change it.

let me try to update my question:
I cannot get sound out of my system speakers. i can tell the midi keyboard is working because I can hear the sound of the program coming out of the midi keyboard. (the keyboard is very basic and has no midi controls) even if i use the built-in input, it does not give me sound. my thought is its a problem with the settings in the program, and it just wont play sound through the computer until I change it
G4 400mhz, 640 mb ram Mac OS X (10.4.7)

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Verify for us that you are getting note recognition in the Transport area.
One last thing - do you have a bunch of stuff plugged into the USB port with the Axiom? There is always the possibility there isn't enough bandwidth for the board to work if you have a scanner, iPhone, card reader, digital camera and keyboard/mouse all plugged in...longshot, but worth a mention.

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