Overclock with power saving states

Hi
3770K + MSI Z77A-GD55
I had previously a Gigabyte board and I could overclock my cpu and still enter power saving states automatically lowering multiplier and voltage. But with this MSI board it seems I can only get full OC frequency (4.5Ghz) or I could go with no OC and use turboboost to 3.9Ghz. Is it possible to have 4.5Ghz overclock and also automatic power saving states that lower the multiplier and voltage? Eg 16x-45x multi
I think I have all the power saving options enabled in bios.
Thank you in advance

Quote from: sannamiis on 10-January-15, 00:30:29
I got it running correctly now. Liveupdate installed some outdated bios. Installed manually the newest and now I have turbo multiplier settings for each core in clickbios.
I'll be honest, personally, I would stay away from Live Update.
Nothing against MSI's utility, but I can't tell you how many times we've dealt with issues related to MSI Live Update causing the problem.
Better to do it yourself.

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Quote from: Froggy Gremlin on 29-November-12, 19:15:02
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Quote from: Froggy Gremlin on 29-November-12, 19:15:02
VDroop set to 100% is all you are going to get. 1.344v's should get you about 44-46X on the cores on 'Auto'. The voltage goes down from there with the lower VDroop settings. With CPU V. set to 'Auto', you get power saving, soon as the CPU V. is taken out of 'Auto', you lose it. No, the CPU speed may lower, but the voltage going to it will not.
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Most folks around the industry recognize 1.350v's as the recommended limit for socket 2011 CPU's, so 1.344v's is fairly close to that anyway.
So when i set the voltage and the cpu multiplier i loose power saving features right?
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