Overclocking 4000+ with MSI K8NGM2-FID

Hello,
I want overclock my 4000+ san diego but just a question : can we change the vcore with the MSI K8NGM2-FID ? I can't find it
thx a lot

Quote from: BOSSKILLER on 09-June-07, 02:30:36
you no really need to change CPU vcore.. board OC properties up to 250 HTT, so you can force CPU to that freq. without need to increase CPU vcore to gain stability, should be not a problem for most of the CPU's. the CPU should be stable with default vcore.
I don't know bosskiller. A 4000+ runs @ 2400Mhz already. Many K8's need voltage increases @ 2600. With a K8 that starts out so high i think he'll need Vcore increases soon to get a whortwhile oc.

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Problem: When attempting to install Windows XP Professional (original version prior to SP2 release), the system either hangs after the second reboot (when attempting to load for the first time) or blue-screens at some point during the initial setup (segment fault.)
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AMD ATHLON 64 X2 3800+ - MANCHESTER (dual core)
MSI K8NGM2-FID nVIDIA GeForce 6150 CHIPSET
CRUCIAL 2GB (2 x 1024MB) PC3200 400MHZ CL3 184-PIN DDR DIMM(s)
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I researched the power supply prior to the purchase, selecting one that was reported by another person to work with the board. I have spare KG supplies that I can test with though.
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I removed one of the sticks, checked bios to ensure system corrected the RAM count, and then started over with the WinXP installation, which still resulted in PAGE_FAULT_IN_NOPAGED_AREA near completion.
> By the way: don't flash your bios with the LiveUpdate utility. Always
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> Also, why do you want to flash bios? If all works when Windows is
> installed, flashing your board can cause problems you don't have now.
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Although there is something to be said for "If it's not broke, don't fix it. However, mine is broke to begin with. If I have to RMA this board, I will not be exchanging it for an identical model, or another MSI board.
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ty

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MSI K8NGM2-FID micro-ATX
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Quote from: TheBigMan on 19-October-06, 07:57:01
Try this:
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'Primary Graphics Adapter' -> PCI Express
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'OnChip VGA Frame Buffer Size' -> Disable
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Be well....
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Quote from: passionne on 31-January-06, 23:59:24
OK, thanks. I was not able to modify the RAM voltage beforehand, since I pressed the "enter" key first.
But, now that I have applied 2.6 V, I don't know how to make the RAM work at 400 Mhz. Indeed, CPUz shows me that it runs at 333 Mhz.
In the chipset configuration, I can change the RAM frequency but the allowable values are 100, 133 and 166 Mhz. Not 200 Mhz.
And I noticed that the command rate is 2T. I changed it to 1T and no boot. I was forced to clear CMOS.
I looked at the RAM specifications (http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator/PartsInfo.asp?ktcpartno=KVR400X64C25/512) but it is not told if these DIMMs can run at 400 Mhz, 1T.
Would you have an idea ?
Thanks.
I use A64 3700+ with Corsair XMS 1G x 2. All RAM setting is auto and CPUz read 200MHz (3-3-3-8). RAM is at 2.6V
May be you can try using auto RAM setting and slightly increase the RAM voltage to 2.65V or 2.7V. If it work, you may try other custom RAM setting.

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