Overclocking E4300 using P965 NEO

Hi Fellas. Finally, got this system running and here are my experiences, so far:
1) This board is soooo limited, the maximum FSB which is there in the BIOS is 265MHz.
2) No TRUE 1:1 FSB/RAM ratio because the lowest RAM speed it supports is 266MHz while the CPU is stuck at 200MHz (800 strap).
Managed an overclock of 250MHz so far (2.25GHz haven't tried more).
The best part is that I was able to O/C HIGHER on an INTEL (946GZIS) board where I got this chip to 2.4GHz using Clockgen! haha can you beat that? I hope they can do something with the BIOS, otherwise this is sucky-sucky. I hope MSI realizes that the E4300 is one of THE best chips to overclock and that this board doesn't do it much justice.
In the meantime, would appreciate it if others using a similar configuration could share their experiences too.
Thanks.

I too bought an e4300 together with a P965 Neo. Same results here: absolute limit of 250mhz FSB.
So I mailed MSI support.. and they sent me a bios update: the still unreleased 1.7. So I flashed the bios, hoping it would fix the problem.
But no. Nothing. Not even a minor change. I guess they haven't fixed the strap issue that EagleDM is talking about. 
So I went back to the store, and found out that changing my MoBo is difficult and costly. Has to do with vista or something. I'm no expert.
To tell you the truth... I might even consider changing it anyway. I've read reviews of ppl overclocking the e4300 past 3ghz. And I'm stuck at 2.2. Even with my brand new Zalman CNSP9500 cooler, which I regret buying now. Stressed CPU temps below 40c are not exactly optimal imho.
So don't get your hopes up for the 1.7 bios upgrade, guys. I'm very sorry to have to tell you this.
*edit* Mmm by upping some voltages (RAM) I was able to get past the wall of 250. got it to 265mhz fsb now. Orthos has been running for some time now on blended test.. I have no idea wether or not it was the update, or my own noobness. Anyway, I'm not even gonna try getting past 265 now. I'm way to happy for another bios reset. I guess you guys just have to bug MSI for 1.7 and try it out yourselves :-)

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  • Benchmarks: Dynamic Overclocking on the P965 Neo-F is a big lie!

    I've just upgraded to the 1.5 BIOS and decided to run some benchmarks. What I found was interesting, so I thought I'd share:
    I set the DOC function to General, which should give a 15% boost to the FSB when the processor is under heavy load. I wanted to see how much that will improve CPU performance compared to when DOC is disableled.
    To test I transcoded an album from the lossless APE format to mp3 using Monkey's Audio and Lame 3.96. I chose this software because it reliably maxes out both of my cores, since Monkey's Audio can be set to do two separate encoding tasks simultaneously: one on each core. Lame itself is assembler optimized to use the processor's fancy vector extensions, ensuring a really maximal CPU load. The command line options I used in Lame are: -V 2 -q 0 --lowpass 19.4 --cwlimit 10.7 --scale 0.99 -mj -b96
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    DOC: Disabeled       
            10:35.17 min
    Standard FSB Clock (266 MHz)
    DOC: General
            12:01.45 min
    Slight FSB Overclock (280 MHz)
    DOC: Disabeled
            10:05.15 min
    Slight FSB Overclock (280 MHz)
    DOC: General
            10:05.39 min
    To confirm these results I ran 3DMark05 at the default settings with the FSB set at 280. My scores: 5637 with DOC disabeled, 5628 with DOC on General (+15%).
    In other words, Dynamic Overclocking on the P965 Neo-F is hopelessly broken. It doesn't actually improve performance and sometimes it seriously damages it! Can anyone confirm that this is so?

    My test results:
    Dynamic Overclocking actually UNDERCLOCKS your CPU under load!
    But it's more copmlicated still: I just did a lot of testing on my E6300 / Neo-F and here are my numbers:
    FSB   
    DOC Setting   
    CPU Freq. at idle     
    CPU Freq. under load     
    266
    Disabled
    1863
    1863
    266
    Private
    1863
    1507
    266
    Captain
    1863
    1566
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    General
    1863
    1625
    267
    Disabled
    1871
    1871
    267
    Private
    1871
    1909
    267
    General
    1871
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    General
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    2062
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    General
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    2090
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    2331
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    General
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    2331
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  • Overclocking problem with P965 NEO

    Hi, i actually have a problem with cpu and memory.
    my settings are:
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    Here i dont have the FSB:DRAM ratio, like i used to have in my asus.
    Ok, going to the point, i want to know how to increase cpu fsb and not the ram mhz. and also put the ram to the full spec.
    the ram is at AUTO and the speed manually to 667 because the problems i found with CPU-Z.
    The SPD reports 400Mhz, 4-4-3-5-24(trc)-2T
    Thanks,
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    Quote from: pszemia on 23-May-07, 01:22:26
    i want to overclock the cpu without overclocking the ram, is that possible with this motherboard??
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    the cpuz is reading actually 379 (i cant remember the exact value, but is around this) for ram when i have set to manual 667 why this happen??? (the cpu is at 300)
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    533Mhz equals the 1:1 divider
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    800Mhz equals the 2:3 divider
    This means if you select 667Mhz RAM in bios you don't force 667Mhz but you select a FSB:RAM ratio of 4:5
    At stock FSB of 266Mhz this makes : 266 / 4 = 66.5 * 5 = 333 Mhz (666 Mhz DDR) wich is the 667Mhz you select.
    However, if you change FSB the RAM speed changes along with it.
    So, for your 300Mhz this makes :  300 / 4 = 75 * 5 = 375 Mhz  wich is +- the 379 Mhz cpuZ reads.
    If you want 333Mhz fsb and ram @ 800 select 667Mhz RAM in bios and set FSB to 333Mhz, also enter RAM timings manually.
    This will result in 333 / 4 = 83.25 * 5 = 416 Mhz (832 Mhz DDR) for ram - The gskill should be able to take this mild 32Mhz overclock.
    The board might not make it to 333Mhz tho - It's a budget board wich overclocks poorly.

  • Q6600 overclock with MSI p965 neo 2

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    Quote from: skxprive on 25-December-09, 22:27:48
    Thats right, as 10acjed said
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    I can also choose 800 Mhz like the picture of his, but the adjusted dram frequency differs and 800 will result in like ~999.
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    that could be your problem right there. Is that when you are running at 300 FSB??
    Try it at 533 and see what happens... If it is at 830 when set to 667 and you try and raise the cpu  higher its also raising the ram higher, probably causing an issue..
    I am still pretty sure you are hitting a wall with that board, its just not a great overclocking board. I am extremely disappointed with my NEO-F as far as overclocking goes. But its been running stable for about 3 years now so its a good board....
    If all else fails run it at 300 - 320 (as high as you can get stable) and put the ram at 667 so it runs around 830, ou will have a nice moderate OC...

  • MOVED: Q6600 overclock with MSI p965 neo 2

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    Quote from: skxprive on 25-December-09, 22:27:48
    Thats right, as 10acjed said
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    that could be your problem right there. Is that when you are running at 300 FSB??
    Try it at 533 and see what happens... If it is at 830 when set to 667 and you try and raise the cpu  higher its also raising the ram higher, probably causing an issue..
    I am still pretty sure you are hitting a wall with that board, its just not a great overclocking board. I am extremely disappointed with my NEO-F as far as overclocking goes. But its been running stable for about 3 years now so its a good board....
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  • MOVED: overclocking problem with P965 NEO

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    Quote from: pszemia on 23-May-07, 01:22:26
    i want to overclock the cpu without overclocking the ram, is that possible with this motherboard??
    for example: 333Mhz cpu and stay at 800Mhz for ram
    the cpuz is reading actually 379 (i cant remember the exact value, but is around this) for ram when i have set to manual 667 why this happen??? (the cpu is at 300)
    The memory speeds you can select are not absolute but FSB:RAM dividers
    533Mhz equals the 1:1 divider
    667Mhz equals the 4:5 divider
    800Mhz equals the 2:3 divider
    This means if you select 667Mhz RAM in bios you don't force 667Mhz but you select a FSB:RAM ratio of 4:5
    At stock FSB of 266Mhz this makes : 266 / 4 = 66.5 * 5 = 333 Mhz (666 Mhz DDR) wich is the 667Mhz you select.
    However, if you change FSB the RAM speed changes along with it.
    So, for your 300Mhz this makes :  300 / 4 = 75 * 5 = 375 Mhz  wich is +- the 379 Mhz cpuZ reads.
    If you want 333Mhz fsb and ram @ 800 select 667Mhz RAM in bios and set FSB to 333Mhz, also enter RAM timings manually.
    This will result in 333 / 4 = 83.25 * 5 = 416 Mhz (832 Mhz DDR) for ram - The gskill should be able to take this mild 32Mhz overclock.
    The board might not make it to 333Mhz tho - It's a budget board wich overclocks poorly.

  • P965 Neo-F BIOS settings

    Hey guys,
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    Many guys mentioned settings of FSB:Memory to 1:1 (divider) in bios,
    I have never found such a option in my bios. So where is it SPECIFICALLY??
    sorry that I am a noob. the reason that I want to do this is my computer won't boot on restart. I have to mannually hold the power botton to shut down and reboot by pushing power again. the FSB was set to 333MHZ. PSU is 650W antec.  system is stable when it is working.
    thanks!

    Quote
    Does anyone know how much of a performnce increase lowering memory timming gives anyhow?
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    Write: 5437 MB/s
    Copy: 5889 MB/s
    Latency: 51,8 ns
    Timings: 4-4-4-12
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    Write: 5440 MB/s
    Copy: 5826 MB/s
    Latency: 50,9 ns

  • Need Help in Overclocking P965 Neo-F

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  • P965 Neo overclock 350Mhz FSB. Failed.

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  • P965 Neo-F Overclock trouble

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    I have had good experience with MSI products in the past, most notably my K8N Neo 2 Platinum. I expected the same level of performance from this MSI board also.
    I should have paid the little bit extra and got the ASUS P5B as that is hitting over 400 FSB without a hitch.
    Getting to even 333 FSB on this P965 Neo was just too scary. I was always biting my nails wondering if it would crap out.
    To get to 333mhz FSB should not even be an issue for any Core 2 Duo board. Many people here seem to be having issues with it.
    How is your power supply? Good name brand and high (450+) watts?
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  • Would the P965 Neo-F make a good board in a student PC?

    These are the components I had in mind for my sister's new PC:
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    Quote from: Streifenkarl on 28-December-06, 14:47:38
    Thanks for your input guys. I think I'll stay with the Neo then!  Which BIOS version should I use then? 1.5 or an earlier one for highest stability?
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    Quote
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    Quote
    I would suggest you to monitor the temp in bios either under hardware monitor or health status
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  • MOVED: Sell it or not? P965 Neo-F

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    Quote from: fendic on 04-April-07, 07:06:04
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    I need your suggestion on this issue: should I sell and replace it with an asus or gigabyte mobo?
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    I'd have to say yes, if you want a P965 board. MSI sadly seems to have screwed up on the 965 chipset , overclocking wise.
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  • Sell it or not? P965 Neo-F

    Hey guys,
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    of course I will buy faster memories for Overclocking.
    Thank u,

    Quote from: fendic on 04-April-07, 07:06:04
    Hey guys,
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    I'd have to say yes, if you want a P965 board. MSI sadly seems to have screwed up on the 965 chipset , overclocking wise.
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    If you can afford a little more, Asus P5B deluxe is a real good one. I wouldn't buy the gigabyte DQ6 as it has a copper cooling plate at the back wich interferes with some aftermarket cpu cooler mounting mechanisms.
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