Overclocking KT4-Ultra & BIOS 1.4

Hy. I've overclocked my 2400+ to 2300Mhz(170FSB). I had also to upper the core voltage to 1.75v (1.74real) so because of this I get higher temps. The thing is that I use a RaptorCool silent cooler and a 12cm fan blowing cold air into the case. This is obvious not enought but is silent. And I use the PC mostly for "domestic" things like watching movies and listening music and just ocasionally for games. Now I would really need the CPU Halt Command enabled in bios to lower my temperatures, but this is available only in v1.4. And if I flash to 1.4 I loose my preseted 13.5 multiplyer (wire trick) that is changing into 11 there goes my overclock. The WPCREDIT method does not apply as I want to switch easy from Enabled/Disabled by just selecting in bios.
How could this be even possible? If this can happen (multiplyer from 13.5 to 11) why not also a bios to unlock the CPU?

The issue here is not why I want to overclock (doh) and also not the HDD performance. And I am among the users that flashed a lot the mobo and that reported the v1.4 temps issue wich is not solved and I think it will never be as the support stopped. I needed the CPU Halt because was a simple ON/OFF thing. Now I find it was because I would still need to enter the bios. So why not just lower the voltage? But yet is this strange thing - how can the multiplyer change from 13.5 to 11? This v1.4 bios is full of (unpleasent) surprises.
Anyone played the flash game Bubble Trouble? Well, that's a game that requires a lot of CPU. Even with Radeon9800 you will be in "trouble" if you don't have enought CPU )) And this is the main reason why I overclocked ) to play it while I run a movie on TV-out and listen to music on my usb earphones.

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i am running 2.13GHz overclocked from 1.73
kt4ultra
768 ddr400 running at 333MHz
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I've done that, but the problem still exist.
I think it's more like a BIOS problem since there's no problem when I'm runnign 1.1 instead of 1.3

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have a strange paradox regarding disturbing message at boot up.
when i boot my system i recieve a message:
"no drive attached to fast track controller. no bios detected.."
i love msi boards and have used this forum in past very sucessfully with the assistance of BAS.
I donated my old system to a freind in need. It was all of 11 months old and was a very stable system built on a k7t pro 2-ru. It had all the bells and whistles. what a mistake.
my new system is as follows:
kt4 ultra fisr
256 mb ddr3200 samsung (as recommended by msi)
m-audio revolution 7.1
ati all in one wonder radeon 8500 64mb
2-80gb western digital special edition hard drives
dvd/cd combo lg electronics gcc-4320b
athalon xp 2200
550 watt antec tru-power psu
lian li case with 4 fans (of which only 3 work with the power supply while allowing fan monitoring)
klipsch pro-media 5.1 speakers
winxp pro
how i got there to the afore mentioned msge regarding controller and no bios detected...
I was experiencing a lot of problems with the new set up
such as:
1. system crashes while viewing tv
2. unexplained boot up of system in the middle of the
night (that was freaky and kind of humorous)
3. other system reboots and difficulty of system
shutdown
4. device driver failure messages regarding the ati card
such as "atimmc.exe driver failure"
all system crashes revolved around the ati card and after recoveries many registeries were messed with as expected.
all in all I got by with the system as long as i remained off applications involving the radeon card.
last week I checked into the forum here and noticed issues with this motherboard and radeon cards.
i went to the ati site noticed updated drivers, and at the msi site, updated bios for the kt4 ultra boards.
i did not have a floppy so i backed off flashing the new bios onto the board. I currently have the first version (1.00 or something), the screen flashes so briefly these days.
i decided to reformat the drives and reload xp onto the new system and then retreive the newer drivers for ati card. upon installation while reading my neurophysiology book upon boot up is when xp informed me that no bios was detected. xp asked me if i wanted to continue. so i did continue with sucessfull installation of xp.
being quite surprised that i could still get system on board, i am wondering how to get the bios to be detected and if I should try and flash new bios, if this will correct this. I am also with fresh install of xp having no difficulties shutting down system now and i am no longer having mystery unassisted boots of the system.
all in all, before the bios problem i was just wondering about the stability of the board with the ati radeon card.
Now I am very concerned with the message, "no driver attached to fast track controller... no bois detected"
any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated.
Boy, do i miss that k7t board...
thank you,
Eric

Do NOT worry about the fasttrack controller message!!
It just says you don't have any serial-ATA disk attached. This is how to get rid of the message:
In BIOS:
=> Integrated Peripherals
=> OnBoard PCI Controller
=> Serial ATA ---> set this to "Disabled"
Can't say I experience any of your other problems, although I had some problems with the sound card the first time I installed.
Seems as if the problems are fewer the more times you install/format the system.....actually experienced that on a couple of MSI-cards. In the end, everything has worked fine for me, so I'm happy with them (except design and layout of the new nForce K7N2G-cards!! ridiculous!)

KT4 Ultra Bios 1.2 Doesnt Work

I have just updated my Bios to verison 1.2 and the computer wont go into windows.
Infact I have found the problem to be the USB Via chipset thats at fault. I have Windows Me and the the computer freezes every time it tries to load USB.
I have put version 1.1 back on an no problems.
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I have just spent 8 hours to find the problem was the usb chipset.
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I am running a KT4 Ultra with XP2000 Cpu. I updated my bios from 1.1 to 1.2 over the weekend, and now my once stable system is giving me no end of problems.
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2, Once I booted up and ran 3dmark, it was okay the first time but the second time the machine crashed and totally corrupted my hard drive. I had to reformat my hard drive and load a backup (two weeks old).
3, I have now re-flashed my bios back to 1.1 but although the system is working I keep getting CRC errors when trying to backup my hard drive to my secondary drive. This did not happen before.
This 1.2 bios seems more like a rushed beta version than a real bios update, it has given me loads of problems and I now have a system which is still not working properly. Bios upgrades are supposed to fix problems not create them!!
I would NOT touch this 1.2 with a long barge pole !!!

KT4 Ultra Bios 1.4 fixed?

There was an issue with the 1.4 bios update for the KT4 Ultra chipset and the temperature reading. I was misreading the temperature. Does anyone know if this issue has been fixed? I contacted MSI about it several times but haven't heard anything back.

Nope,still the same dated one as before.
Also when I installed v1.4 it sent Windows XP settings nuts with the HLT command enabled in bios.
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There will be a different date on it anyway.

KT4 Ultra BIOS Update soon?

Has anyone got any info about the intended release date of the next BIOS update for the KT4 Ultra 6590? It seems the KT4V is getting a load of updates....

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i am using the kt4 ultra motherboard (bluetooth ready and SATA), when i go to the integrated peripherals, onboard pci controller i can only enable/disable the audio controller....
where am i supposed to enable/disable the raid controller?? is there a jumper i am missing on the board?
thanks in advance,
brian

Are you sure you have a KT4 ultra with the Serial ATA/RAID controller option? There are several versions of the motherboard, all doesn't include the PDC20376 SATA/RAID controller, please check if you can find the chip on your mobo. The controller is enabled/disabled under Integrated Peripherals->OnBoard PCI Controller
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Kt4 ultra BIOS pc health freezes

The title about says it all. Whenever I try to view the PC health menu in the BIOS the computer freezes needing a retstart as you cant move off the PC health menu - the arrow keys don't work. It happens immediatly on pressing enter when on this menu and I can get into all the other menu options without any problem.
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Has anybody seen this issue?

Set the timmings for the RAM and CPU to the lowest performance. (the FSB, latency, 1T command off, priority, quick boot off)
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Mobo MSI KT4 Ultra, bios 1.30

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slot and CDRW to ide1 slot, master(udma). Boot from master disk and reinstall windows xp
and Promise raid driver, so on......??!!
Disks are Seagate Barracuda IV 60Gb(identical). And is raid-0 any faster than typical ide100? Do i have to setup raid-1 if i wanna more speed(seektime etc)?
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And what is raid bios? What is newest and how to upgrade....?

In the beginning it is difficult. Take it slow. You can work out yourself by using the web as the medium to provide you more information about RAID. There are plenty of search engines to help you.
Here is one article you can read: http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.html?i=1491 It is not idiot proof kind of article though. You need basic knowledge about storage devices.
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KT4 Ultra bios update?

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KT4 Ultra BIOS 1.4 Released

I've not tested it yet but here it is.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/bios/bos/spt_bos_detail.php?UID=356&NAME=MS-6590

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KT4 ULTRA PROCESSOR HELP REQUIRED.

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JIUHB TBred 1700+ and KT4 Ultra

Hi,
this is my first time being in this forum )
I have a question about overclocking my new TBred 1700+ (JIUHB stepping) CPU on my KT4 Ultra board.
After i have installed the CPU on my board i changed the FSB to 166 MHz - no problem the FSB is running with 166 MHz :P . Then i want to change the multiplier from 11 (default) to 12.5 -> nothing happens - the multiplier is still 11 ?( When i set the multiplier to 10 also nothing happens - the multiplier is still 11. The cpu itself should not be the problem (the CPU should be unlocked by default) because i have bought two of them and the other CPU runs on an KT3 Ultra 2 board with FSB 166 and with a multiplier 12.5. Can anyone help me or tell me what the problem could be.
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KT4 Ultra (Bios 1.30)
2x256 MByte RAM PC-333 (CL2,5 - Infineon)
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Juergen

additional info :
in another thread ("Is my Athlon XP 2400+ Tbred B Unlocked? Please help!") i found the information that with the KT4 Ultra board the only way to unlock the cpu is the wiring trick.
@jkesa - is this what is to do when the L1 bridges are cut ?(
@maesus - is there any hope that this overclocking feature is maybe implemented in the forthcoming 1.4 bios to avoid such kind of modification like the wiring trick (other mainboards are able to do that) ?(
Juergen

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OK.....so somebody got their 9700 Pro working with a KT4 Ultra????
PLEASE let me know what secret trick you used to get your card to run a game...
I'm using a Sapphire 9700 Pro with my KT4 Ultra and it hard-locks 10seconds after loading any game...
Here are my specs:
I am currently having some stability issues with any game I try. The game will load, however it will hard-crash within 10seconds of the game actually starting.
XP1600+ ( overclocked and non-overclocked tried )
MSI KT4 Ultra BIOS: 6590 version 1.0
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The reason why I say this is not likely due to the memory is that I have run the system without error using an old GeForce2 MX200...The system ran games, applications, and benchmarks without a hitch...
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In the BIOS, I tried to change the AGP setting to 4X......Unfortunately, the setting is greyed-out and cannot be altered. As a result, I downloaded the newest version of Powerstrip....There is a section where you can set the AGP speed.....I select 4X, though once I hit "OK" or "Apply", the setting goes back to AGP8X....
Does anyone know of a way I can force AGP4X as I imagine this would solve my problems?
And as far as the "AUTO" setting....The BIOS IS running the card at AGP8x...This can be seen in Sandra and any other system utility...
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KT4 Ultra Rocks!!

Well,,..With a new board and a few weeks of waiting my problems with my KT3 Ultra have been solved and i got a KT4 Ultra for 80$...It pays to take something back if it doesnt work...well heres the specs...:
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Athlon Xp 1700+ Thoroughbred @1.98Ghz..155FSB X 12.5/13.0. Set in bios. Vcore for cpu is at 1.675
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In the post it says memory is running at 333FSB but i dont think that is correct...but everything else runs good.
i didnt think i could get this 1700+ to run this high but it seems ok..stable no problems....Im still only getting high 11000 on 3dmark 2001 se but its because im using windows 98se...until i upgrade to Windows Xp ...and also buy either a new nvidia card or go Ati im probabley maxed out.the CPU also runs at around a nice low 40c in temp..under load..so it is running cool....i am really suprised....Thx agoian for all your help......MSI Rocks!!!!...
Also the 400watt power supply was the key to solveing alot of my problems...power is the key to haveing a good stable running system......300watts just wouldnt do it....atleast not for me...

its like i said i have had MSI for over 4 years and i know the boards well...this is by far the easyies board to tweak..and perfect.....do you really think windows xp will help my video performance.....i really only use this pc for video games ....thats what im working towards...a perfect game machine....its only 94$....is it worth it or should i just be happy?

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