Overclocking Noob

I'm currently running my system with mostly default BIOS settings. I don't game much these days, only occasionally. Other than browsing, I mostly edit photos and videos, encode/burn DVDs, and create large illustrations. I'm happy with my system as it is, but I could do with more power behind plug-in rendering in photoshop, illustrator, and with videos as well as less time waiting for DVDs to be encoded. Do I have the right stuff in place for getting more out of my system? Are there any drawbacks? [eg Risk, Hardware longevity, etc] If so, are there some compromises, some things I can choose to push w/o much risk?
Thanks.

I see several problems with your system when trying to overclock it. Your PSU is probably the biggest problem, with only 12a on the 12v rail (was it 12a?). Chances are you will need to purchase a new PSU to overclock. You can get a good PSU for ~$75. The next limiting factor is your memory. Your memory is PC3200 which was designed to run at stock speeds (200mhz). You can run a divider (meaning you can run your memory asynchronomously) but this will be less effective than if you ran your memory at the same speed as your FSB (synchronomously). For example a 5:6 divider would be 200mem/250FSB. This is less efficient than 250mem/250FSB.
As a rule of thumb people say you should switch your memory SPD on the board to 333 (which would give you a 5:6 divider) and raise your FSB to 250. If you got a good processor it will boot up and run prime95 stable without a bump in VCore. It's been my expereince that if your processor wasn't designed to go that far then it won't boot at all and you'll need to clear CMOS. I've seen good things with the 3.0C. I can't say the same for the 2.8C.
Read https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=29142&sid=, it's an overclocking guide. Follow their steps, if you can't get it to POST at 250FSB then start at 210 and work your way up. Since your memory is 333, you can keep your timings as is, and you need not be concerned with the memory as a limiting factor in your overclock. So when you run prime95, if it's stable, bump the FSB and try again. Eventually you will reach a FSB where prime95 is no longer stable/the computer won't post.
I really rushed this reply, if there's anything you don't understand, just ask, and i'll explain in detail when i get a chance.

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The thing is, I think, we all don't want to encourage you to literally put your system into a ready 200ºC oven and watch it glow, wrinkle and flex. It'll be a nice sight to behold but that's what overclock is.
Here's my poison:
1) That Corsair memory kit is a high performance kit, judging from your parts number, then it can OC to 1800-2000Mhz (180-200 FSB) with ease. My Kingston Value grade ram is running 1750Mhz @ 7-9-7-22, 1.627v. If your ram is running at 1.600+v then why not go for at least 170-175 FSB to make it run at 1700-1750Mhz with faster timing say 888-20. Or you can make existing clock to run at 888-20 timing.
2) 57ºC CPU sounds like you're running with stock cooler. Mine, i3 530 is running at 3.5Ghz with Cooler Master 212 Plus idling at 31-38ºC. The cooler supports LGA1366 socket. Though I don't recommend you to kick the cpu speed more than what you have now. That's good enough IMO.
You can try tweaking around is BIOS if you're brave and skilled enough. Leave everything of CPU feature untouched but only mess with FSB and the multiplier, DRAM multiplier and timing and voltage combo (Vcore, PCH, Vtt and DRAM voltages).
Word of wisdom: We never say it can't be done but truly we just enjoy the sight of failure so that we can at least feel a bit better than that miserable in the making.

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Quote from: HU16E on 16-February-09, 13:52:53
Only work with FSB or RAM first. Don't do both at the same time. It is best to start with FSB first. CPU V. increase is done at point of no post. My P6N's E6600 still uses the stock cooler @ 3.0. Make sure Spread Spectrum is 'Disabled', & System Clock is set to 'Manual". Since your at 2.7 now, guessing FSB is 1200. Raise in small increments until no post, add + one step CPU V. & retest for post.
To reach 1333 (333X9=3.0) with mine, it took + two CPU V. steps, an increase of NB to 1.275, SB 1.55, & FSB VTT V. 2%. Once stable, I kept my RAM at 800. Not having a copy of your manual, I'm not exactly sure of your bios Cell Menu layout.
Once you have reached your goal, 3.0-3.2 stable, & want to increase mem. from 667 to 800, set DRAM Clock to 800, use the JEDEC Std. timings of 5 5 5 18, DRAM V's. of 1.95 (Max. 2.1). If stable at JEDEC, you could try tightening the timings to the EPP rating 4 4 4 12 DRAM V's. 2.1. If that works, great. If not, just revert back to the JEDEC Std.
Great info & advice man. Thanks. I will have questions though because I don't fully understand what all of this means. For instance, what are those values : "an increase of NB to 1.275, SB 1.55, & FSB VTT V. 2%"...?
As soon as I've installed my Noctua, I'll start working on that OC. I'd love to reach 4.0GHz like Jack...think that's possible? Thanks!

P7N vanilla 750i - what are some good OC settings?

Hi - my first post here! I am an overclocking noob, and need a little advice: the board is MSI 750i P7N vanilla edition - not diamond or platinum, just standard. CPU is e6850, ram is 4X1 GB Corsair xms ddr -800. Cooler is Vendetta2, PSU is xFinity 650, and GPU is nvidia 9800GTX+. So I did tweek the FSB to 1393 and that worked, but trying to go higher resulted in no post. I found the same with DOT - setting it to more than "private" resulted in no post. Oh ya - bios is Ami V2.1
So what settings are you guys using?

Thank you FP for the link to Real Temp.
Real Temp, in it's second screen, shows min-max CPU VID which will tell us how high the CPU V's can be raised without causing permanent damage or overly shortening the CPU's life. Any amount of OC'ing has the potential to shorten component life.
You have made the first step, & did it the right way. Raise FSB Clock till it stops post. In your case 1393. Next step is to bump up (with Spread Spectrum disabled), the FSB Clock to 1394 with CPU V. in Cell Menu raised one step above auto, +0.0125 & see if it posts, & proceed from there in small increments until you reach your goal.
Recommend opening a written log book of all current settings in bios before proceeding, as by a fourth restart, the bios more than likely will need to be reset again. (Also record all the 'final' working settings & V's so as to return to them if needed).
Did find data for an XFinity 600, but not a 650. The 600 had two +12V rails, V1 18A & V2 20A, so don't expect the 650 to be less.
CPU-Z, Everest, & Real Temp, & others, are great tools to help with valuable information to OC successfully.
It's very possible, with just raising the CPU V's a small amount, & raising FSB Clock, you will reach 3.2G's fairly easy.
Target: FSB Clock 1424 (356) X9 Multiplier = 3.204G's.
As a side note, it may also be possible to optimize your mem. modules as well. Are they PC-6400's or PC-8500's?

Noob on overclocking here,,,,,,,, hello?

Finally decided to give the overclocking a try. Just installed a Thermaltake Volcano 11 on my Build #2. I am going to attempt to crank it up a little. Now I understand this much, I should give the thermal paste (Artic Silver 5) a while to set in, so I will try in a week or two.Long enough?
With the new heat sink and fan, anything I should look out for during break in?
I chose not to install the temp probe and set it to manual. Is that ok?

Set fsb/Dram ratio to 1:1, move up in small amounts to 200FSB, and if you have a unlocked multiplier lower it to 10 to start out with. If you cant reach 200 X10 jump the Vcore up to the next highest level and try again. When/if you can reach this setting run prime (set up properly Here) and watch your temps.

Noob with a question about overclocking.

Good Afternoon,
I just picked up an MSI A6000-029US laptop and am looking to overclock it to get a bit more from the processor. For reference, hardware follows:
Chipset: NVIDIA MCP79MVL
Processor: Intel C2D T6600 2.2GHz; FSB 800MHz
GPU: GeForce 8200M G
RAM: 2x 2gb 800 MHz Samsung PC2-6400 DDR2
I have installed the 64-bit Windows 7 upgrade and checked out an overclocking guide on slickdeals.net, but could not use the tutorial as I am missing a couple of drivers that did not transfer when I changed the OS to 64-bit. (SMB/SMU memory driver being one of them)
I am new to overclocking and working with the BIOS, etc., so any advice is appreciated.
Cheers,
Nick

Quote from: nartieri on 30-November-09, 05:39:34
Good Afternoon,
I just picked up an MSI A6000-029US laptop and am looking to overclock it to get a bit more from the processor. For reference, hardware follows:
Chipset: NVIDIA MCP79MVL
Processor: Intel C2D T6600 2.2GHz; FSB 800MHz
GPU: GeForce 8200M G
RAM: 2x 2gb 800 MHz Samsung PC2-6400 DDR2
I have installed the 64-bit Windows 7 upgrade and checked out an overclocking guide on slickdeals.net, but could not use the tutorial as I am missing a couple of drivers that did not transfer when I changed the OS to 64-bit. (SMB/SMU memory driver being one of them)
I am new to overclocking and working with the BIOS, etc., so any advice is appreciated.
Cheers,
Nick
I'd be surprised if you find any overclocking related setting in your bios. Make no mistake laptops can be overclocked but tools for that aren't widely available. You may reach for modded BIOS versions if the lappy if popular enough, but looking at the specs I'd wouldn't say so, so my guess is that you'll fail to find any modified BIOS revisions.
On the other hand, you may very well succeed with tools like setFSB which has the biggest number of supported PLL's - clock generators among any software of that kind.
Oh, and since you're using a nVidia based chipset, you may check out the nVidia control panel, if you're lucky it may allow for some O/C.
heads up mate

Noob question #2: best neo-fisr bios for overclocking?

neo-fisr:
Best bios for high fsb overclocking and high vdimm?
Thanks!

the latest one... if you get the old one, it won't work with the latest CPU and fastest... so what for

HELP FOR NOOB OVERCLOCKER

Hey, so I just wanted to get some info from people on what are good bios settings for my overclock. I have looked all over the internet to find someone with the exact same build and have yet to find anyone. Everytime I come close to finding someone with it, they are using a different cPU on my mobo or a different mobo for my cpu...
So here are my specs...
MOBO:
MSI Z77A-GD65
CPU:
Intel Core i7-3770K
Memory:
G.SKILL Trident X Series 16 GB 2400MHZ
Hard Drive:
120Gb SSD corshair
Video Card:
EVGA GTX660-ti SC 3GB DDR5
I have it on the OC GENIE DEFAULT PROFILE AT 4.2GHZ but honestly it does not feel like enough. I am playing cs:Go and I want to stream. I have recently not been able to stream because cs:go is a a game that takes a lot of power while streaming. So I want to boost my clock to around 4.5GHZ
But, I can't find any settings or somsone with the same exact build as me so I can copy there settings...
Any help would be appreciate it, steering me in the right direction is fine. I am a quick learner once someone shows me the path. Its just hard for me to get onto the path alone ;p
Thanks,
savosean

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But, I can't find any settings or somsone with the same exact build as me so I can copy there settings...
Due to variations in individual CPU ability and differences in components, even if identical in all respects, the settings required will not usually be the same. Simply peruse the threads in this section of the forum and you should find plenty of things to try when using an Ivy k series. Turbo OC has always worked best for me with all the power saving features still intact.

Noob Question. Memory added, system now unstable when overclocking

I overclocked my celeron 2.0 to 2.66 a couple weeks ago and it's been stable until yeterday. I added another 256mb of pc2100 ram, and I can't figure out what the issue is.
I tried running overclocked with just the new ram, and it's fine. Same when going back to the old. The system is even stable with both sticks of ram running at a fsb of 100. However, changing to the previously stable 133 fsb with twice the ram causes all sorts of problems.
Winows will load, but I can't run MediaPlayer, which is why I overclocked the system in the first place (for home theater HD stuff).
Memory is one PNY PC2100 256mb ram & one Specktek PC 2100 256MB.
Can anybody throw me a rope here, or point me in the right direction? I've read the guides listed here, but I'm sure I missed something. Thanks for the help.

just to be sure - test your for memory for errors with memtest86 - http://www.memtest86.com/
other then that, try :
- change and test with all three mem.slots combinations
- raise your mem.voltage in bios to 2.6
- check /report your psu spec for 3,3v /5v /12v so that youre not short of power
- clear cmos, set bios and start raising fsb in smaller steps at start - https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threadid=31222&sid=

Overclocking MSI P43 Neo-F (NOOB)

Hi there gurus I am new here. I need some help overclocking my CPU and Memory. I tried to do some search on this mobo but didn't find a good explanatory guide I need step by step guide to use the cell menu. I am looking for a 3.2Ghz spot.

For the processor try the jumper on the mother board MSI have a guid on the motherboard download section. Start at the lowest setting and try each
I found on my P43-F that the first and third setting worked ok but the second wouldnt allow it to boot very much trial and error I didnt push it to the top og the range but settles for a FSB of 334 (Oldo ne was 233)
works fine not tried to overclock memeory yet but you can do this through the bios

Overclocking my i7-860 with an "old" H55-GD65

Well, it was new to me but I understand by todays standards it is "Old"... forgive me for my budget constrainsts at the moment, but atleast I did buy an MSI, right?
OK, that being said, I would like to be a little more educated on the overclocking functions and, in some cases, how to be able to adjust them as some I can not seem to get off of auto mode...
I'm new to this (if you couldn't already tell by my other stupid posts) so be patient with me please. I pick stuff up quickly. As a matter of fact as of a month ago I could't have told you what an i7 was... Now I have built my own system and I really want to learn what everything is, what it does and how it relates to everything a little more indepthly. I have read many articles on several forums reffered by this site, so I am somewhat up to speed on many of the settings.
So far I have done three OC attempts and saved their settings. All successfull in their own way. I managed to go from the OC Genie base setting of 3.59Ghz to 3.99Ghz. Ram settings on the OC genie was 1575Mhz and my OC's were 1525Mhz. Values for voltage on my OC's are all on auto, as I can not seem to find a way of manualy adjusting the voltage outside of OC genie settings so there must be something I am not doing right. As for CPU voltage the OC genie was1.31min/1.36max. Mine were 1.36min/1.42max (which it pretty much stayes right there. This is where I think I am consuming more power especially at a higher clock. I really need to get into the voltages for the CPU and RAM (the RAM especialy).
In 3Dmark11 my last OC produced much better physics scores 8500s vs 8100s so I am confident it is working well in that regard, but who knows, maybe it should be better givin the increase in frequency. I have also run BBC2 for over 6hrs on my 3.8Ghz tune and my CPU temps never got over 60C. With OCgenie activated, my temps are in the 55C range.
I am using CPUID monitor to read temps and voltages. In this I have noticed that the OC genie power package is pulling 65W, my packages were at 95W. So given the data of the performance and the heat build up at idle and max temps, I have to concede the OCgenie setting to be more efficient. I would like to know exactly why that is. I see a different multiplyer being used, but when I am in one of my clocks, I can not adjust this either, I can only adjust frequency. Why is that?
Here are the specs on my system;
CoolerMaster HAF 922; 3x2CM, 1x1.2CM
i7-860
H55-GD65
2x4Gb G.Skill CL7 10666 ocupying 1,3
Sapphire Dirt 3 HD 6950 2Gb
Win 7 U
WD 1Tb Caviar Black 64Mb SataIII
Antec H20 620 w/ UltaKAze 3000
HCG-900 PSU
If any more info is needed, let me know. I will be all to happy to provide it the best I can.

Found it! -/+ buttons... Sry for the Noob post.... it was in the manual... Sry.
So now that that is out of the way...
I have noticed the recomendations on this sight varying from recomendations on other sites pertaining to what CPU functions should be Enabled/Disabled.
On this Forum I see most suggest O-clocking with T-boost and other CPU state controls active. Other sites say turn them off and run the CPU throttled. I personaly like the idea of a more energy efficient combo, providing it works comparitively. I am also begining base testing again with Prime95 so I know I am starting with a completely stable platform.
I also read that there is a limit of the onboard chipsets. Being this is an H55, can I ask what is the max throughput (I believe is the propoper term) for this chipset? On the Specs page it lists max QPI up to 6.4GT/s. Could someone explain what this number is representative of and what it means in relation to maximum attainable CPU frequency? Thanks.

MSI p7n Platinum and E2160 Overclock

This is my first build and I'm trying to get my CPU overclocked to 3.0ghz.
I've read that the e2160 is capable of 3.0Ghz with stock cooling and voltages. I cannot get mine higher then 2.4 Ghz. I am new so haven't tried anything other then changing the FSB to 1066/1200/1333. 1066 Seems stable, but I could not get a boot with either 1200 or 1333. I tried raising the voltage 1 notch but still no boot at either of the higher speeds. I've read that lowering the multiplier may help, or increasing the voltage more may help, but I dont want to screw anything up so I thought I would come here for some advice before proceeding.
Ive disabled Spread Spectrum, EIST, I cannot find an option to disable C1E (maybe its the old version of EIST??) I'm not sure what other Bios settings need to be enabled or disabled.
The board never read my RAM correctly, I had to change the speeds and timing manually to get it to 1066, I copied someone elses settings to get it to 1125 (5-5-5-15 2t) as they claimed it to be Rock solid stable. Which appears to be correct, although I havent used anything except 4hours of COD4 maxxed out at 1440x900 to test it....(no issues). CPU-Z reads my timings at 533.4Mhz, FSB:DRAM 1:2, 5-5-5-15, tRc:22, 2t@ 2.10v(have no idea if that is fast but I dont think so). The SPD tab reads the memory as PC2-5300, but populates with a part number of OCZ2N10661G. Im not sure if this is a problem, but I thought Id put it out there, just in case.
I'm totally noob about the power supply, which is why I posted all the specs from the label in my sig. I realize it is probably worthless for a Q6600 with 2 8800GT 512 in SLI, but it came with my XION DAZL case and the price was the key to keeping my current system in the budget. I thought it would be good enough to run at least 1 8800 with an e2160 and I could upgrade later (when I finish my system) if need be. I may have not connected the PSU properly as I just matched up the plugs, and stuck the fans in line with the dvd drive, so I wouldnt have to connect anything to the plugs for the graphic card, except the graphics card itself. Do I need to change my connections, and will this power supply work with 8800GT's in SLI with a Q6600?

So to get 3.0Ghz?? 333x9 = 1333mhz in bios with my OCZ1066 platinum running at 667mhz.
I load default settings in bios, then disable EIST, DOT and spread spectrum (still cant find C1E) enable smartfan to (im guessing here) 45C and 85% fan?
I manually set the ram to 667 then select linked in bios, and take 50 mhz jumps from the CPU stock speed.
Test it for stability by booting to windows, run Prime 95? for 30 minutes, and then repeat until I hopefully hit the target speed.
If i run into stability problems then I raise VTT voltage 1-2 notches and test, Then NB 1 notch and test, Then mem voltage 1-2 notches and test. If still unstable then Im at a wall/hole and should set voltages to last known stable voltages and jump 10 mhz at a time to see if it gets stable at higher speeds?? When I max out then I can tighten up my ram timings and try to lower voltages to reduce heat and increase performance. CPU-Z SPD tab reads JEDEC#3 @ 333mhz 5-5-5-19 @1.8v, is this the timings I need to start with for that setup?
I need to watch my core temps during all of this, Im unsure of what my max temps are with this CPU, there are 2 E2160's listed on intel's sight. CPU-Z says I have the M0 version (knowing my luck this is the inferior one) Intel lists max temps at 73c and 61C Im not sure which is mine, but no smoke came out at 65C under COD4 load, although it was only there about 5 minutes before I noticed and backed it down.
What I need to know:
What else if anything needs to be enabled/disabled in bios ver. 1.1?
Do I manually set the ram in bios to 667 to attempt a 1:1 ratio at 3.0ghz with this hardware? (I have ram set at 1066 now with a CPU speed of 2700.)
What is a good target for smartfan?
Are 50 mhz jumps OK when overclocking?
What stability test should I run while overclocking and how long, before I increase my clock again?
How do I detect a hole vs a wall while overclocking?
When raising voltages is there an order that needs to be followed ex. CPU, Nb, mem to achieve stability?
What target temps should I look for with stock cooling on this CPU 40/60?
I realize I am asking a lot, that is why I posted what i thought was correct and really just need someone to look it over and make sure Im on the right track and point out any flaws in my thinking.

Overclocking with Core Center

I am a total noob to this overclocking stuff, but trying to learn more.
I have been using Core Control to oc my mobo. Currently I have an AMD 64 2800 that is running at FSB 245 and a cpu 2205 mhz.
I have not adjusted any voltages, do I need to? What is everyones opionion of Core Center? I have verified the cpu speed with MBM and CPU-Z and they confirm what Core Center says.
Any thoughs on this am I pushing the FSB up too high?
System specs:
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
1 gig (2 512's) Crucial PC3200 ram
AMD Athlon 64 2800 Newcastle
Nvidia 6800 OC By BFG tech
480 W Antec PS

Well, for a nood that's a nice OC. In order to determine if you need more voltage you need to check for stability. Get a free download of Prime95 and run the torture test on the second setting where it says lots of heat. Speaking of heat, that's more inportant than voltage. You want to check out what temps your are generating under fyll load(ie the Prime torture test. If your using stock cooling you can only go so high before heat is a problem. Adding voltage adds more heat as well. How hot is too hot? That's a question that everyone has their own answer for. I really don't like my system running much over 50c, so low 50's is where I back off. I'm sure it can go well into the fifties without gettig cooked, but I'm pretty cautious. Good luck.javascript:checklength(document.bbform);
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Overclocking I7 920 DO and X58 Pro mobo

Hello guys would be very greatfull if someone could please help me. I have just purchased the I7 920 DO and an X58 pro mobo and im a noob at overclocking the only overclocking ive ever done was with basic programs ie Ntune.Ive read hundreds of forums and im still none the wiser my head is spinning.I would like to no if anyone could give me a list of were everything should be ie base clock and so on. Im not after a big overclock between 3.2 and 3.6 would be ok for now ive read on some forums you can leave everything as it is for about 3.4ghz and just increase the base clock is this true it also states this in this months pc format magazine.Ive checked with everset and my idle cpu temp is between 27 and 34, core 1 is 46, core 2 is 44, core 3 is 47, core 4 is 42, i havent checked these on full load, also in the oc program that came with the mobo everything keeps changing the cpu speed goes from 1.6ghz up to 2.9ghz this is also the case with everest and the oc program alarm on the system 3 fan keeps going off even though there is no fan installed in that socket and it reads 0 any advice and suggestions would be greatfull thanx.

The fluctuation you see in speed, is the power saving features in the system. Not to worry, that is normal. Make sure 'Spread Spectrum' is disabled. In 'Advance Bios Features' 'CPU Features', disable all except 'Hyper Threading'. Change 'Mem. Ratio' to 4, 'Uncore Ratio' to 8, 'Advance DRAM Config,' set 1N 9 9 9 24, change base clock to 166, disable 'Extreme Mem. Profile', leave other settings 'default' or 'Auto', & check for post. That should get you around 3.33 & mem. around 1333.
I'm a little curious on your memory modules. What voltage do the they say they run at? If not 1.5v-1.65v, they are the wrong modules for your system. Most i7 X58 RAM is also triple channel 3X2G sets at a max. of 1.65v's.

Have you guy's ever used software to overclock?

I am a noob as you can tell from my post. :hypecrite:
I am building a system using:
MSI K7N2 DELTA L
AMD 2500+ Barton (333 FSB)
Corsair PC 3200 DDR
Has anyone ever used and had success with the following O'C. programs:
SOFTFSB / BUSRACING / CPUBOOST
How easy it for a novice to overclock this chip without software?
Thanks for all your help.
Ray K.

The software overclocking programs you give won't work on the Nforce2 anyway.
here are some that have much more chances to work and are very easy to use:
- clockgen: choose the nforce2 program
- Nvidia System utility
- 8rdavcore
This should give you a good feel for it.
An advice: overclock slowly, 1MHz FSB at a time and test using prime95.
Overclocking too much too fast can
- lead to instabilities
- freeze or reboot your system
- even damage some part (very rare)
Have fun!

Overclocking Noob

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