Overclocking with Core Center

I am a total noob to this overclocking stuff, but trying to learn more.
I have been using Core Control to oc my mobo. Currently I have an AMD 64 2800 that is running at FSB 245 and a cpu 2205 mhz.
I have not adjusted any voltages, do I need to? What is everyones opionion of Core Center? I have verified the cpu speed with MBM and CPU-Z and they confirm what Core Center says.
Any thoughs on this am I pushing the FSB up too high?
System specs:
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
1 gig (2 512's) Crucial PC3200 ram
AMD Athlon 64 2800 Newcastle
Nvidia 6800 OC By BFG tech
480 W Antec PS

Well, for a nood that's a nice OC. In order to determine if you need more voltage you need to check for stability. Get a free download of Prime95 and run the torture test on the second setting where it says lots of heat. Speaking of heat, that's more inportant than voltage. You want to check out what temps your are generating under fyll load(ie the Prime torture test. If your using stock cooling you can only go so high before heat is a problem. Adding voltage adds more heat as well. How hot is too hot? That's a question that everyone has their own answer for. I really don't like my system running much over 50c, so low 50's is where I back off. I'm sure it can go well into the fifties without gettig cooked, but I'm pretty cautious. Good luck.javascript:checklength(document.bbform);
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Quote from: petsoukos on 25-March-06, 21:16:41
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Quote from: Bas on 16-January-12, 04:42:17
I do not know many people that use CoreCenter.
I stopped using it myself in the beginning, as you can simply set the fans in the BIOS.
And the over-temp-shutdown is done by the BIOS automaticly so no reason to set in CC either.
-Thanks Bas,
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