Overset text

Opened a PDF in 10.1.4 that was created by an unknown out-of-house source. It was created as a editable form and sent out to a customer. One of the boxes has so much text it is showing overset/overmatter. Is there a way i can print the document and see that text?

Aside from changing the size of the form field, no.

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False Overset Text in Links Panel

Mac OX 10.6.4
CS5
This is the problem I'm encountering: When I export to .pdf, Indesign Crashes. I've been able to narrow it down to one specific file and actually specific pages. But here is something I've noticed and cannot figure out. I've got three .psd linked files that are showing up as overset (OV) in the links panel, therefore when I click on them ID says it can't show me them because they are in over set text. But my live preflight says there is no over set text. ID jumps to pages still when I click that link but that whole story has no overset text. (i.e. not red overset in the outbox and no overset text in story editor mode. I can't figure out where those three linked objects are or how to select them to delete them. Any thoughts?

I would suggest running through the same steps as above (which it sounds like you've done) to see if you can isolate a problem, and in addition you might want to try exporting the stories to InDesign Tagged Text, then create a new file, move over the master pages, and place all the exported stories.
Also, be sure everyone is updated to the 7.5.3 patch.
dcald wrote:
The links panel indicates that the images are in overset text but we know for a fact that they are from a previous issue and are no longer in the ID file. Also, preflight indicates that there is no overset text in the file. It is one flow thoughout the entire file. Attempts to create PDF fail consistently. Each time someone has had to build the file again from scratch which for a file over 60 pages long, is not good for feelings towards the ID/InCopy.
This implies to me that you "recycle" document instead of building a template. ID is pretty stable, but no layout program is perfect and each time you do a save you introduce the possibility of small errors in the file. Somnetimes those small errors become big problems.
You can reduce the risk of problems on recurring publications by creating a template that contains your master pages, color swatches, styles, and any "static" content that might not be on a master page but still does not change from version to version. Each new version should be made from the template, so it is always a fresh second-generation copy.

What is overset text and how do I remove it?

I use ID to format and design my high school's newspaper, so I'm not familiar with a lot of features and aspects that it entails; I have a rather basic understanding of the program. I was trying to export books of the pages into PDF format in order to send the files to the publisher, and when I was exporting them, I kept getting notifications about overset text. So, what is that and how can I resolve that problem? Thanks for your help.

InDesign has an online help function; searching for 'overset text' yields this:
http://community.adobe.com/help/search.html?q=overset%20text&hl=en_US&lr=en_US&l=indesign_ product_adobelr&site=indesign_cs5_all&self=1&filter=0
Try the following experiment to see how it works: draw a text frame, fill it with Placeholder Text, then toggle to the black arrow and make the text frame a bit smaller. Hey presto, Overset Text.
In summary, 'overset text' is simply Too Much Information. Text that has not been placed. Text for which there is no room allocated in your text frames.
You can best delete it using the Story Editor (look in the help for that), which helpfully shows you what part of a story is overset -- but, would you really want to delete this? (Perhaps you would, since you never noticed it was missing in the first place.) Another way of getting rid of it is placing your text cursor at the very end of the last visible sentence in the last text frame -- the one with a glaringly obvious Warning Signal Red Plus in its lower right corner -- and press Cmd+Shft+End keys to select everything up to the end of the story, then press Backspace.

Overset text will not go into the text box that is part of the master for the next page

I am trying to (first time user) set up a simple trade-paperback sized book with some photos. Have set up several masters for chapter title pages, chapter inner pages, etc. When I copy text out of Word into InDesign, (copy/paste) the text overset box appears. I load it, then go to the next page, which I have already formatted using one of the masters. But when I select the desired text box ((Ctrl/shft) and click, the overset text forms a new text box, What am I doing wrong? thanks

I have done, this did work right for at least the left side of the spread, but never for the right side -
Make sure the left and right page master page text frames are threaded View>Extras>Show Text Threads. Here I have left and right page text boxes threaded on my A-master spread:
Checking Smart Text Reflow can make adding long text to master frames easier:
With Smart Text Reflow enabled I've released the master page text box on page 1, note the released frame has a solid border, while the unreleased master page frames on subsequent pages are dotted indicating they are still master page items and not page items.
The result of the paste:

Selecting Overset Text In InCopy CS5 [AppleScript]

I am trying to fix the AppleScript I used in InCopy CS3 to select overset text in CS5.
In my old script I tell InCopy to select the overset text in the current story. Simple command:
select text of last text column of myStory
In CS5 it now selects the last column in the layout. So in CS3 the last column was defined as the overset set if there was overset text. Now it is the last column. I admit that I think this was a bug in CS3 but it worked for me.
Now I have no way to select all Overset text. If I run
set myOverset to overset text of myStory
This will get me the number of lines of overset text. So I think, if I know the number of lines of overset set, then I can use the total number of lines of text, subtract the number overset lines, and that will tell me the first line I need to select. Doesn't work. If I try to find out the number of lines in a story, the result is less than the number of lines shown to me in Story View. The amount it is off varies.
Does anyone have any ideas. Also, I have tried to select multiple lines using AppleScript but InCopy doesn't like that.

Most logical answer would be that for some reason your specific text was not exported as InCopt text (you have to do this for every text story you have and want to be able to edit). If you click on such a text frame, does a name get selected in the assignment and/or Links panel? If not, the text is not an InCopy text.

Removing overset text in empty table rows (InDesign CS5.5)

I have some overset text in a table that appears to be empty rows. I've opened story editor so I can remove the text, but I can't select the area that's overset (the red lines). How does one remove this overset stuff if you can't select it.

Have you tried adjusting the height of the row to reveal the over set text?
Or try placing your cursor in the cell in question and just hit the delete key...Sometimes invisible characters like column break can be accidently added.
Or perhaps, highlighting the entire row and hit the backspace key.

Text in Illustrator CS6 displays the red plus sign but there is no overset text. How can I remove?

I have some text blocks in Illustrator CS 6 that display the red plus sign that indicates overset text but there is no overset text. It occurs in files that were created with earlier versions of Illustator and now we are reworking them. It can't be deleted. I have cut the text in the box and pasted it into a new text box to no avail. It is not a screen artifact. I have tried copying everything in the file and pasting it into a new file and the little red plus sign comes along. It doesn't print, of course, but is driving me crazy...

I just tried, but the text is point type, not area type, so expanding the box makes the type bigger and doesn’t show extra space that might be there. Looking at the hidden characters doesn’t show any extra returns. I also have a few of these plus signs that seem to be completely disembodied, just floating in space apart from any visible text. Thanks for your suggestion, though.
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Overset text in Table of Contents

Indesign version = CS2
API = javascript
I'm having a problem getting overset text to appear in a TOC. I am passing true for the "includeOverset" param in the call document.createTOC() but the overset text does not appear. This is happening on both the CS2 desktop and CS2 server. If I open the generated document and re-generate the TOC then answer yes to the dialog asking wether or not to include overset text the missing text will appear.
Are there known issues with using the "includeOverset" when creating a TOC in the javascript API. Or are there other properties that I'm missing that need to be set.
Thanks Mike

Mike,
I also include overset text in my TOC that is actually off of the viewable spread. At first, it didn't work (even though I asked it to include the text). Then, I moved the field to be a few px within the viewable spread but left the text still off of the edge and it worked.
I am doing this through Javascript with CS3.
You may be having an entirely different problem... but I hope this helps :)
Eric

Overset text in Mac InDesign

I am producing a 32-page theatre program. I try to make a PDF of it and it says three pages have overset text. I cannot find any overset text, though. Can anyone help? Thanks.

Also, if you zoom to a low percentage with the view set to Normal you'll see the overset marks for any visible text frames. 5% view:
If the problem text frames are hidden you'll have to use preflight

InDesign CS6: preflight & non-existent overset text in my document.

Hi,
I’m using InDesign CS6. The preflight lists overset errors. When I click on the page icon and go to where the overset txt is supposed to be…there is none.
I deleted EVERYTHING in the entire document, then did a SAVE-AS a new name; restarted InDesign; opened the empty document...and it still says I have overset text. I’ve had this issue before with other documents and just ignored the errors after hours of trying to fix the non-existent overset text - but other people have to use my documents. Having errors is an issue with shared documents. I started a chat with an adobe tech support person, but they had no idea what the problem is. Is this a bug? More importantly, is there a fix?
any help much appreciated.
regards,
m

I have a document with a similar issue. I just opened it just to check. When I click on the overset and click somewhere else, I get an empty text frame. I guess that's what happens to you as well. I turned on Show Hidden Characters and noticed that somehow I had at the bottom of the page a paragraph sign (probably I hit enter at the end without noticing it). I just deleted it and now is fine. Turn on the Show Hidden Characters and see if something shows up at the end of your document.

I can't edit overset text in InDesign CS4

I have spent the last several hours trying to fix the overset text. Every time I click on the little red overset text in the lower right hand corner, another text box pops up. I have deleted it at least 150 times. I just cannot get it to work. I tried editing in story editor, but I've never used it, so I can't figure out how to do it. Ready to rip my hair out. PLEASE HELP!!!!!

As Kath says, the story editor is probably the place to start since you can at least see the text. It operates a lot like a low-end word processor.
It sounds like there is a problem in a line that prevents it from fitting in a frame. One common problem is that No Break has been applied to an entire paragraph or something similar (turning off hyphenation in narrow columns can do the same thing if you encounter a long string like a URL). Another common problem is that keep options are set in such a way that a paragraph cannot break. You,ll see style tags to the left of the text which can help you identify what styles are applied so you know where to start looking if the keeps are defined as part of a style.
Tables can also be an issue. ID will break a table between rows, but not mid-row. If a cell is too deep to fit the frame height it will exhibit the behavior you see. I think I've also seen a case where an entire table was set up as header rows, but I believe that caused ID to put one row per page, not to just go into overset.
Peter

Overset Text In InDesign

I've created a wall calendar in InDesign. In preflight, there are 80 errors, all overset text. Does this mean that the overset text just won't show up in print? Because if that's the case, I don't need it anyway. So would I need to delete it or deal with it at all if I don't need it printed? Thank you for any help. I'm still learning.

1.Salah Fadlabi is correct.
However, I always delete overset text, to avoid confusion and to be safe that
a third party person/print company opening the document won't be confused.
Different people work in different ways!
Hope this info' is of help.

Can't get overset text to appear in frame [CS6]

I am at the very end of a story, using my standard text styles, and yet whatever I try, I cannot get the last paragraph to appear on the last page of the document. It is tagged as overset in the SE and triggers the usual error.
This document is part of a book. The text frame takes up the entire page — plenty of room for a headline style and one paragraph.
"Keep" options are all unchecked.
What else should I be looking for?
thanks

You should also check in story editor to be sure that the first line of overset text is not "unbreakable" for some reason -- No Break applied to a lot of text, Hyphantion turned off and the use of non-breaking spaces -- or that the format is realistic -- I've seen cases where left and riht indents added together were wider than the column or the text size was too large for even a single word to fit.

How to autoflow overset text in script?

Gurus,
I write a script to import xml and place it in text frame but I had my overset text, i know that it just a shift+doubleclick in outport of text frame to autoflow text, the problem is how can i write it in a script? please help! Thanks in advance!

You need to add the frames and thread them yourself. Search the forum
for past discussions. you should find sample code to do that.
Harbs
http://www.in-tools.com

InDesign overset text indicators

I have a document in which several pages have overset text indicators, but the text is not overset. There is actually space for more text within the text frames. I have not been able to see how to get rid of the overset indicators.

You will not be able to remove the overset indicator. But if you are being bothered of that indicator and since preflight panel always prompt you that you have overset text then I suggest that you have to removed those extra spaces you have in every frame.
Try this one if this will help you.
Save a copy of your InDesign file. (for Backup purposes)
If you are using Mac cmd + f or ctrl + f for Windows
In find change dialog Click GREP and in Find what: field copy paste this [\r]{2,} or this one [\r|\n]{2,}
Leave the Change to to blank:
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Click Change All
See Screenshot:
Always check your InDesign files if you noticed that some text might be missing.
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[JS CS3] Modify geometricBounds of Inline Frames in Overset Text

Hello,
I have the following setting:
I recieve a XML file , which contains <image href="..."> tags. InDesign automatically inserts the correct images as an inline frame.
The layout column are too small for the large images, so when placing the XML into the layout, the whole content is in the overset.
Inline frames in the overset do not have any geometricBounds. Can I modify width & height of frames in overset text? And how do I do that?
Thanks
Tobias

Thanks Robin!
I helped myself with the following:
with(myElement){
     // get img objects
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     var theImageFrame = theImage.parent;
     theImageFrame.appliedObjectStyle = myDocument.objectStyles.item("Img_free");
The objectStyle "Img_free" sets the image frame from "inline" to "anchored frame". So the size of the image doesn't matter any more because its outside ("free") of the text. So everything flows into visibility and I can change whatever I want. (Yes, I must not do this with a object style, but it felt right to do so.)
It's basically a similar way to your description. But I had hoped that there would be a somewhat "cleaner" way to do that. In my eyes it is more a workaround ...
Any further suggestions?
(How do people scripting InDesign Server do such things?)
Thanks
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