Ovi vs Sygic

So, I have Sygic Mobile installed on my N78 with Latest 06.2010 maps since two months ago. I'm wondering why the map on the Sygic is much more detailed in my country (Romania) than Ovi Maps, considering that Navteq is a Nokia company ?
Just take a look at the screenshots. The screenshots are made in the same location. On Ovi Maps there isn't even the city name, while on Sygic the city coverage is almost 100% with streets and POI's.
How Nokia encourage us to use Ovi Maps if they can't get the proper maps from their own company ?
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Sygic navigation has been much better for me than Ovi/Nokia maps, so I am sad to find out that Sygic are not going to continue with Symbian.

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In the unlikely event that anyone has made it this far, congratulations and thanks for listening. My therapist told me I had to get all of this off my chest.
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I see your point. I have also resisted fat touchscreen phones and waited a lot for the perfect one, the E72, only to find it it is not that perfect.
In a way, it matches all I wanted... native strong encryption, decent hardware, etc. But it has some problems.
The issues with email are a problem in such a business communicator, but to me they are not very relevant (I don't need to synch my work email).
To me that biggest deal breaker so far are the problems with memory. I feel like I have a new gadget and am already getting out of error messages as if it's an outdated brick.
I have an 6220 Classic that boots with twice as much free RAM as the E72. Granted, the OS is a bit simpler but not all that much. I don't know what kind of muppet memory management is going on in the E72 but I boot with about 40 MB free RAM and after loading a few resident apps it is down to 31 MB. Then the more I use the phone the more it leaks until eventually it is down to <20 and either reboots itself or I do it myself.
After some hard resets I concluded that not installing fishy software does help with the leaks, but not much.,,, the thing leaks just by being alive. Every time you see that breathing light exhale it means that a KB has died and went to Symbian heaven.
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Are you taking a walk navigating with Maps but want to take a few photos of the scenery? I did that this weekend. Well maybe you'll be able to open the camera app while navigating... hmm "Out of Memory Error"... now, let's try again... There, I closed the Log, no more apps open... Ohh look, it opened the Camera, great... lets take some photos....-click- -click- ok... back to Maps to move on oh no... Ovi Maps closed itself.
Pity, pity... Could be a decent phone but the RAM issue is getting on my nerves. I'm starting to doubt it will ever be fixed by firmware flashing. The low amount of ram and its poor management is to me the single biggest flaw of the E72.
Unlike you, I feel Android is too immature and will only bring many limitations and other problems. Right now I'm out of ideas, except perhaps waiting to see what WiMo 7 is bringing... I do like the 9.3 FP2 but the overall experience is a bit annoying right now.... I'm always waiting to see which app will be closed due to low ram.
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