OWB Corrupts Discoverer EUL
HI,
I want to put some attention to an issue I encountered using OWB 9.2. The issue occurs when defining a dimension without any levels. If one exports that dimension through the discoverer bridge and imports it in the EUL, the EUL is corrupted. To see it one needs to do a second import, it will generate an error (cyclic hierarchy, eul not changed). The mentioned dimension is NOT visible in discoverer, however it will need either reinstalling the EUL (thus losing all metadata entered and/or changed) or hacking into the EUL to remove the hierarchy which has no levels.
IMO this is a serious problem which needs to be addressed ASAP, however raising an iTAR only resulted in a product enhancement request (IMO way to low for such a problem).
The referenced iTAR ( 3507810.999 ) and product enhancement request ( bug: 3237872) are available for viewing (with proper authorisation).
How to put it "High" on the list of development?
Greetings,
Wilco
Let me explain,
A developper designed the dimension and forgot to add levels.
OWB validated the dimension as OK (This shoul already result in invalid dimension IMO).
We assigned the dimension to a collection, and exported a complete collection through the discoverer bridge. (6 Dimensions an 3 Facts).
Export went successfully.
During Import we got your error also, so we exported again. The then resulting eex imported successfully into OWB.
The dimension we did not use right away, is was part of the 2nd increment of development, but created allready for future need.
When we modified the ETL, because of a missing field, we reexported through the discoverer bridge.
The file we got then we loaded with the following option in Discoverer : refresh the object, preserve display related properties. This reulted in the import not beeing able to finish due to "cyclic hierarchy error", the EUL was not changed. importing the new field was impossible.
We did not want to create the extra field by hand, due to the fact that Discoverer and OWB use uid's, which would get out of sync, resulting in a almost unmaintainable EUL (we have experienced it allready).
If of use, following TAR/bug's are related (from Discoverer and OWB side)
Discoverer
iTAR 3398979.996
BUG none
OWB
iTAR 3507810.999
BUG 3237872
On the side of Discoverer they recognize it as a bug, but also treat it as enhancement, while at the side that realy causes the problems it is treated as a "would be nice to have" feature (in my interpretation)
I am even encouraged to start a discussion on this issue to upgrade the bug. In my opinion it is a bug, and not even a small one. I believe that a product should never be corrupting metadata or functionality of another product.
If one buy's a car, and after your wife has driven it and made a little scratch on the paint (and only teh paint), I believe nobody would accept it if from that moment on, noone would be able to normally drive the car because it is impossible to drive that car around a corner. If one goes to the garage, they will respond with: eeeh, OK we will mention this to the factory, so they can add it as an option. In the mean time buy a new car, and do not make any scratches to the paint.
(You will have to admit the analogy here)
Greetings,
Wilco
Similar Messages
-
Discoverer EUL Workbooks - Query Statistics, Workbooks Queried By User
Hi there.
I've just ran Discoverer EUL workbooks and found out a nice functionality on one of those queries. It's on EUL Query Statistics workbook, "Workbooks Queried By User" worksheet (and others).
If you take a look at the "Worksheet Usage" column, you'll notice that there's an effect that looks a lot like a "progress bar". According to the times that worksheet was used, this bar advances or retract.
I noticed it's a calculated column, but when I try to edit it, it shows no more than COUNT_DISTINCT("Date & Sheet"). I got a little confused on how this COUNT_DISTINCT shows that "progress bar"....
So... how can I implement this on my DM queries?
TIA.You need Desktop. When you format the data, there is a check box to show graphical bars. This option is not available in Plus, but the bars will show up when the report is displayed in Plus.
-
Discoverer EUL Maintenance from Apps
Hello
To add setup changes and also key accounting and descriptive flexfields into Discoverer I think we need to regenerate the EUL views by running certain concurrent programs in Apps.
On checking, I see 2 programs Discoverer End User Layer Maintenance, 1 for Financials Intelligence and 1 for Purchasing Intelligence. Are these the ones?
Does anybody know about all the Apps concurrent programs to refresh Discoverer EULs with changes?
Thanks
Sanjib Manna
Oracle Practice
IBM Business Consultingwell ... I hope they got their solution as it was over a year ago according to the original date of the post 8-)
It sounds like you're talking about the BIS views in Oracle Apps. If so, yes, there's a process you run in Oracle Apps - as a particular user - to regenerate the BIS views in the database - and to pick up changes you've made in desc. flexfields, key flexfields, etc.
Once done, the views in the database will be the correct 'generated' ones. However, you now have to bring the defintions into Disco EUL.
You log into Disco Admin - and this is important - GO IN AS THE CORRECT USER who owns the database view (can't remember, but I think it's the account / responsibility that just did the regen in Apps). If you don't go in as the correct user (ie: you go in as a Disco EUL Admin, the owner of the EUL, sysadmin, etc.) - you're hosed. When you perform a refresh (and of course, don't check what changes it's talking about), then you'll lose all your views in the EUL (don't ask how I know this!).
When you're in as the correct person, you perform a refresh on all BIS business areas, Disco Admin will compare your EUL's definition of the views vs the fancy, new ones in the database and add the columns (or may take away if so, old ones) to the ones in the EUL.
However - just a note - if you're using a newer version of Oracle Apps (ie: including patches thay may have been done) than the last time you brought the BIS views into the EUL, you obviously won't see any new BIS views in the database that may have been added in the new version. The regen will compile them for you, but as you're performing a refresh, you may miss some hot, new, fantastic, save-the-company, views.
That's a different story and one where you might want to make sure that the .eex file (that comes with upgrades and many patches) is the newest one used in the EUL when importing BIS view definitions.
Sounds like fun ...
Russ -
How to create a multilanguage Discoverer EUL
Hello,
Is there a way to build a multilanguage Discoverer EUL without having to support two EULs ?
Regards,
MyriamDear All,
Do any one knows what all are the configuration required to show report in arabic?
I have issue in showing parameter prompt.
Arabic prompts are showing as question marks when I am saving from discoverer plus. Junk characters when I am saving from discoverer desktop.
please help.
With Regards,
Sheeja Anil -
Does anyone know if Oracle supplies an ERD for the Discoverer EUL tables. I would like to have such a thing to generate reports about system use etc.
Hi Russ
How are you doing?
I'm afraid Oracle considers that to be proprietary information and is concerned over folks being able to reverse engineer the product hence they won't give away the inner workings of the EUL.
However, they did allow me to publish some of the workings in my Discoverer 10g Handbook which are printed in Appendix A.
In reality, if folks get hold of and install the EUL5 end user layer that is supplied on the Discoverer Admin CD it is not too hard to decipher most of what is going on.
Best wishes
Michael -
Discoverer EUL and workbook documentor
Recently, my current client asked me if there was any easy way to document all the EUL information in one file. I generated the below pdf document
Check this http://www.appsbi.com/discoverer_eul_snapshot_report.pdf
Sample Discoverer EUL and Workbook Generated Document,
but before I present this to my client I would like your opinion on whether the document is presentable, does it have all the necessary information, any flaws, any suggestions?
Thanks
Nilesh
http://www.appsbi.comI have played a bit with info-captor, but to no great detail.
I agree it boils down to ease of use and ease of maintenance, but proficiency with a development tool also has a big part to play in it. Where I would choose reports or even Disco, you chose Infocaptor, and others would use yet another tool. Client requirements also play a part in it as well - mine wanted a PDF available from their intranet. So I am pushing the pdf out of OR, and making it available on the web. If they had wanted a dashboard, or something a bit more interactive, then OR was not going to be the appropriate tool.
As I mentioned in my previous post - it is a slick looking report. But as Michael commented, it looks to be directed more to an admin than an end user (which may be fine depending on the audience). -
Im new to using Discoverer technologies, I would like to ask if it is possible to convert an EUL (End User Layer) to OLAP (Online Analytic Processing) Anaytic Workspace. I would like to create a customized web applications using BI Beans. I already have my Discoverer Business Areas. Can I use these business areas into my BI beans application. I've read that the Discoverer Viewer is made from BI Beans... So Im wondering if it is possible...
Hi
Sorry this is not possible. There is no relatioship between an EUL and an analytic workspace. You'll have to do this manually I'm afraid.
Best wishes
Michael -
Accessing Discoverer EUL from XML Publisher
Is there a way to use Oracle Discoverer's EUL from XML Publisher to build a report instead of creating a query directly?
I'm just thinking of providing the ability to build fancy reports using XML Publisher to the end user that Oracle Discoverer doesn't provide.
Thanks.Hi,
I have the same issue with XML Publisher.
I made a directory under the xmlpserver\Reports called Guest.
When i sign in with guest(without password), i can see and launch
my report.
But when use directly this URL:
http://mycomputer:15101/xmlpserver/myreportdirectory/myreport.xdo
the browser open the sign in page.
Is there a mistake on the url or the configuration ?
Thanks a lot.
Christophe. -
I have installed App Server 10g and as such the Discoverer server requires the repository to be at 5.0.1.x. My current repository is 9.0.4.43.15.0. How can I upgrade this to? What Disco Admin version shall I use? My current disco admin is from the iDS CDs for version 9.0.2.0.1. Please advise.
Thanks!
Karen OlszykDon't know if this will help...
My PRODUCTION version is 4.1.44.
I created an EUL via admin using the version 5.
Once 10g was released, I had to delete the EUL5_ EUL that I had created earlier and re-convert my version 4 to 10g version of Discoverer. (Works great now!) -
ICX profile settings for Discoverer EUL
Hi, I'm using Discoverer 4i Viewer with E_Business and I create a new EUL.
How can I switch from the old EUL to the new one in order to see my reports ?
I found this note on the Discoverer Forum:
"Looks like you are using Oracle E-Business. If you launch
discoverer viewer from E_Business then your ICX profile settings determine
which EUL you be connecting to.
The ICX profile settings is in your E-Business profile settings."
Where can I find and modify my ICX profile settings ?
Thanks in advance
AlexThanks for your help guys, but unfortunately it doesn't still work....
My previous EUL was called just "EUL". Now I created a new one called "EULEXP" and I modified the parameter ICX_DEFAULT_EUL with the value "EULEXP", but when I try to access my reports from Discoverer Viewer, automatically into the URL call appear again eul=EUL and not eul=EULEXP as shown below:
http://gnvdev.ote.gr:8025/discoverer4i/viewer?ac=ORACLE~3a~22OTE~20HELPDESK~22~40crmdb&eul=EUL&nlsl=en-us&wbk=STATISTIC_REPORT_2_OK1
If I try manually to set eul=EULEXP I have this error
Authentication Failed.
(Default or specified schema containing EUL tables is inaccessible )
Where do I make the mistake ?
Thanks
Alex -
Problems Exporting OWB to Discoverer
I have tried to export the model generated in OWB to the Discoverer. The Discoverer does not admit the file .eex generated by OWB that has the following format:
BEGIN End User Layer Export
EUL_Version 3.1.92.0.7
EUL_Unique_Id 20030308102738
EUL_Characterset_WE8MSWIN1252
Define Object
Type BUSINESS AREA
Name AREA CASO 1
mName AREA CASO 1
mDescription
mId
EndDefine Object
Define Object
Type GRANTED BUSINESS AREA
Name
mIOUserName DOCT01
mIOBusinessArea 1
EndDefine Object
Define Object
Type SIMPLE OBJECT
Name ALMACEN
mExternalTableName ALMACEN
mHidden 1
How I can solve it?
Thanks.Sorry, can't think of why that would happen. Try it with another dummy document. Try keeping everything in the same directory. Maybe the book wasn't saved after synchronisation. Take note of the source file when doing the sync. ...ie, make sure you setup the toc styles in the individual document you're making the toc in and which everything gets synched to. ...just some thoughts.
-
Problem exporting from OWB to Discoverer 4
Hi
I have a business area in OWB with 3 dimensions and one fact table. When I try to export this business area to Discoverer 4, the dimensions appear duplicated, eg "PRODUCTS" and "PRODUCTS: Default", and the fact table becomes redundantly linked to all the duplicated dimension facts...
What can be the problem?
Thanks
lcI was a bit confused when I saw this at first too, but I think it is intended to work this way. When you look at the two copies of the dimensions in Discoverer Administrator you will se that only one of them is vissible to the end-user. Furthermore, the data type of any numeric columns in the original dimension will have been changed to character in the version the user sees. This is done in order to avoid problems when creating workbooks, because Discoverer does not like numeric "group" columns. An example of this is the time dimension where the "actual year" column is numeric by default in OWB. If you try to use this column in a workbook Discoverer will try to sum it and use it as a detail data point, rather than a group.
Hope this helps,
Roald -
hello
been using discoverer 4.1.37
i'm testing the upgrade to 4.1.48 but when i connect to the EUL i'm not getting any "EUL needs upgrading" messages.
can you confirm what the eul version should be for discoverer 4.1.48
when i look at the eul4_versions table it says 4.1.14
cheersGoing back a bit in my memory, but I'm sure I remember that the 4.1.48 upgrade did indeed need a new EUL as many changes were made - a way better version.
Once you're on 4.1.48, I believe you can't go back down to the lower version either, due to the same reason; new features, etc. added that weren't supported before.
The key issue for you is not that it needs a new EUL, but when you upgrade your existing EUL, is it a destructive upgrade or not? In otherwords, does it create a entirely different brand spankin' new EUL, or does it alter the old one.
Alter the old one and you've got problems if people are using the old one. A new one and you can test it to your hearts content and migrate reports into the new one before turning off the old one.
I'm 99% sure it's not a destructive upgrade and indeed, creates an entirely new EUL. Maybe someone can add in if they're 100% certain.
Russ -
Is there a ready made Discoverer Business Area (EUL) for Financial ?
Please advice.
Regards
Ebrahimhi ,
With the amount of work i have done you will not get any ready made
Discoverer Business Area (EUL) for Financial.
The reason could be the amount of tables that will have to be included
in the EUL which may result in the Reports becomming too slow.
It would always be better to have a small no.of tables and related
objects as required intoa EUL.
Thank You
Is there a ready made Discoverer Business Area (EUL) for Financial ?
Please advice.
Regards
Ebrahim -
Discoverer EUL Management workbooks
We're running Discoverer 10.1.2.0.2. I didn't do the install, but remember seeing something about workbooks that can help you interrogate the EUL setup. Does anyone know where I can locate those?
Thanks!Hi,
In the Oracle Discoverer Admin home on the workstation there should be EUL5.eex file in the discoverer/sql directory. If you import this file into your EUL the EUL management business area, folders and workbooks will be created.
Hope that helps,
Rod West
Maybe you are looking for
-
Upgrade from Panther to Tiger or Panther to Leopard
I'm operating a Powerbook 15" with a 1.33 G4 and 256MB RAM. I believe the specs for Leopard call for 512MB RAM. The question I have is, am I better off going with Leopard and upgrading the RAM or should I just go with Tiger and upgrade the OS? A litt
-
How to populate Adobe LiveCycle Designer generated PDF Forms with data from Database in Windows app
Hi I have a PDF template designed in Adobe LiveCycle Designer. This template has form fields which needs to be filled with data programmatically. I am using windows application in C#.Net 2005 in which I want to retrieve data from database and merge t
-
We encountered an error when trying to create your account using worldship address
I am from saudi arabic I am trying to created account using addess of worldship but it's not working need you help to fix this issues
-
The computer is asking for a "current password" before it gets to the Windows startup window. I do not know this password, can you please help? (I was given this computer under the false pretenses that it only needed a charger.)
-
How do I open a "winmail.dat" file ?
How do I open a "winmail.dat" file ?