OWB Process/Workflow in third party Workflow engines

Have any of you had experience using the XPDL file generated by the Process flow component of OWB to execute the Workflow in non-oracle Commercial and/or Open source Workflow engines?
If so I'd like to hear about it. I'm attempting to do the same and think that the Oracle Workflow component is too much work.
I appreciate your responses.

Hi,
Any update on it.
Regard
Nidhideep

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Start OWB Process Flow Schedule Job in Workflow Manager

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Process Required for Third party sales

Hi Guru ji's ,
Pls let me know the step by step procedure for Third party sales processing.
on the below conditions.
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2] Based on the Sales order, automatic Purchase order and Gr must happen.
3] Automatic invoices must also be created automatically.
Can any one explain us what is to be done under the above said conditions,
Best Regards,
Gurpreet Singh Saini.

Hi
Please find enclosed the details on third party.
Process Flow for 3rd Party Sales
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material u2013 Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
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6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and,   therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing      *-- Seema Dhar
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
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      Sales org, distr chnl, div
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      Material
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SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
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We are using the SAP function "Third-Party Processing". We are using the function in it's standard (SAP R/3 4.7).
The auditor now has the following issue: Shipping the goods starts after paying the goods. Out of this, while shipping the goods, we are the owner of them. In this circumstance the ship is our warehouse.
SAP does not allow an Inventory Management within Third-Party Processing:
"Since a third-party order involves a movement from the vendor direct to the customer, Inventory Management is not in any way affected. If you wish to document the movement in the system, however, you can create a goods receipt for the third-party order."
With the SAP functions in this scenario it is correct that the warehouse stock is not being impacted. This is a conflict with the opinion of the auditor.
Let me explain in detail what is wrong out of the view of our auditor:
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Some auditors just dont understand the SAP process. Instead of talking to weak users, they should talk to SAP directly.
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Hi friends,
i need all your help in configuring third party process in MM.please guide me by giving step by step process with t-codes.
your advise is considdered more valuable.
Regards,
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Hi,
Process Flow for Third party process with SD-MM Integration
Customiztion requires is
1) Defining the Purchasing org,Purchasing group,
2) Assign the Purchase org to company code
3) Assign Purchase org to plant,
Material type used should be Trading goods -- HAWA
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material with Material Type as "Trading Goods" & Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Sales Order type
4. Sale order is created and in the background a PR is generated
Note down the PR number along with Sale order no
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PO will be sent to the Vendor with delivery address as your Customer.
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7. Goods receipt MIGO & stock update in the Plant ( Not physically)
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Dear Gurus !
I am facing a problem in creating the intercompany invoice in case of third party order processing.
In our organisation , for any type of sale two billing documents are creared :
1) Commercial Invoice under the co. code for which sales org. is maintained at the sales order bookin level .
2) Intercompany Invoice under the co. code in which plant is maintained which is used at the sales order level as delivering plant.
So, as per the configuration req. for third party processing , i have created Sales order ( with automatic Purchase requistion generated ) , Purchase order creation with reference to the Purchase requisition , goods reciept ( MIGO ) and invoice reciept ( MIRO ) , then billing doc. or commercial invoice ( VF01 ) with the generation of accounting document and finally the intercompany invoice ( VF01 ) .
But i am facing the problem in final stage , that is , intercompany invoice creation .
Error Message : No open billing quantity has been determined .
I have checked the copy control for sales order to intercompany invoice and still not able to resolve it .
Please reply which setting needs to be done for this .
Awaiting your response , that what copy control settings is required .
Thanks .....

Hi Buddi / Mahesh / Kiran ,
It ' s good to see all of your opinion . But my problem has not been resolved .
I am implementing third party processing in my organisation , where the customer is an export customer ( outside India ) . Hence , this is a merchant export .
All the configurations / Customisations have been done for this process .
The process is running fine till commercial invoice , but the problem is in intercompany billing doc. creation.
I am again repeating - Error message : No open billing quantity has been determined.
Explanation of the process :
1) The order has been booked with item category TAS alongwith the item cat. group as BANS for the material used in the order .
2) The sales area is 1020 / 30 / 35 . Here , 1020 is sales org . under company code 0079 , 30 is export's distribution channel and 35 is the division for components .
3) The delivering plant used in the sales order is 1009 which is under co. code 0077. The price / condition record maintained for this material is in USD / EUR as it is a case of merchant export .
4) The purchase requisition is generated automatically when the order is saved . It can be seen at VA02 - > Item details - > Schedule Lines .
5) With the help of this PR no. , i have created a purchase order for vendor which is maintained under co. code 0077 asking for material in plant 1009 which we need to export / supply to the customer.
6) The value of material per piece in the P.O. is coming from the material master record -> Accounting 1 view - > Moving av. Price .
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8) After MIGO , Invoice reciept or MIRO is done under company code 0077.
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10)The billing document ( order - related billing doc.) is created and the accounting document is also created under co. code 0079 in USD .
Till this stage , everything is running successfully as per business requirement , but i am facing the problem in the final stage , that is creation of intercompany invoice under co. code 0077 which is in INR .
In all other sales document types used in our industry , the process is same , that is : a) Sales order creation b) Delivery and PGI c) Billing doc. creation with accounting doc. under co. code 0079 and finally d) Intercompany invoice with accounting doc. under co. code 0077 and excise invoice creation with reference to intercompany invoice.
In the above, problem is not there becuase orde is delivery relevant , hence copy control is maintained for interco. billing to delivery type.
But in the new process , that is , third party processing , sales order relevant billing is done . so i suppose there will be a copy control for intercompany billing and sales doc. type , but i am not able to resolve it .
Hence , please understand the process before suggesting .
Thanks and awaits reply........

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Hello,
I would like to know if any of you have come across a use case where the Third-Party Order Fulfillment is Not based on the Supplier/Manufacturer shipping out the material directly But the Buyer (and in some cases even end User/customer) arranges this themselves. This is very common in International Trade where the Buyer/Business arranges the shipment themselves by using the services of a Freight Forwarder who Ships the material to the end user/customer after the Supplier/Manufacturer has made the Material available. In such cases the actual Shipment could take days or weeks from when Material is made ready by the Suppliers.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/4d/2b91be43ad11d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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in third party order processing what is the need of creating purchase requisition, cant we create purchase order with out refrence to puchase requisition?
Thanks and regards
sudhakar

hi
Yes, wat you said is correct we can create PO with Reference to PR.
In some situation we need to show this information to the auditing people ( Internal Process ) for that they need to show the reference doct, beacause of this order only we are created PO..
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Because we need to create PR
Ihope it is clear, Rewards if it is Usefule
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Third Party Process
Customize the third party sales in summary:
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
4. A sale order is created and when saved a PR is generated at the background
5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
7. Goods receipt MIGO
8. Goods issue
9. The item cat TAS or Schedule line cat CS is not relevant for delivery which is evident from the config and, therefore, there is no delivery process attached in the whole process of Third party sales.
10. Billing
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Sales Order
VA01
Order Type
Sales org, distr chnl, div
Enter
Sold to
PO #
Material
Quantity
Enter
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created with a third party sales order
VA01
Order Number
Goto Item Overview
Item ->Schedule Item
SD - 3rd party sales order View the PR that is created
ME52N
Key in the PR number
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Assign the PR to the vendor and create PO
ME57
Key in the PR number
Toggle the "Assigned Purchase Requisition"
Execute
Check the box next to the material
Assign Automatically button
Click on "Assignments" button
Click on "Process assignment"
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Drag the PR and drop in the shopping basket
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Receive Goods
MIGO_GR
PO Number
DN Number
Batch tab , click on classification
Serial Numbers tab
Date of Production
Flag Item OK
Check, just in case
Post
Save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create Invoice
MIRO
Invoice Date
Look for the PO , state the vendor and the Material
Check the box
Clilck on "Copy"
Purchase Order Number (bottom half of the screen)
Amount
State the baseline date
Simulate & Post
Invoice Number
*Invoice blocked due to date variance
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a delivery order
VL01N
In the order screen , go to the menu Sales Document , select "Deliver"
Go to "picking" tab
State the qty and save
SD - 3rd party sales order Create a billing document
VF01
Ensure that the delivery document is correct in the
Enter
Go to edit -> Log
Save

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We are sending free sample materials for testing to a customer, Material will be dispatched through Third party Vendor. How to do MM & SD Process from excise point of view.
Note: Material directly will get dispatch from vendor to 2 different places 1.with in India 2.Foreign
Thanks&Regards
Raghu.p

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You can create Sales order for Sample processing and enable Third Party Item category ( by copying TAS) and Item category should be relevant for Pricing with Statistical Indicator
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revert if you find any difficulty in executing the above steps

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