Own router on infinity

Am I correct in assuming BT no longer supplies a separate open reach modem. That is very inconvenient if true as when my one dies a natural death we are forced to use their hub instead of our own superior routers. Can the latest hubs be used in modem only mode.

You would need to use a VDSL modem such as the Openreach modem available for about £20 on auction sites and connect your superior router through that or buy a VDSLmodem/router.
You already asked this on one of your other posts
https://community.bt.com/t5/Other-Broadband-Queries/Home-hub-5-modem-only/m-p/1415083#M98097

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New bt infinity with HH5. How to use own router?

Hi guys,
I have just this morning had my infinity 2 installed. Went with BT as I had read it's very easy to use your own router.
My engineer has just left. I was expecting an openreach modem, but didn't realise HH5 had the modem built in. No problem, must be very similar to my old virgin superhub, combo device. I'll putt he home hub into modem only mode right?
Nope, can't see such an option. Is there anyway I can get around this? Will be a deal breaker for me!
Thanks

At worst you can buy a HG612 from "a well known auction site"
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BT infinity & sky sports through own router

Hi All
Im using my own router which works fine Netgear r6300 for my infinity and works brilliantly (lot quicker than hh3) However I cant receive the sky sports through it at all saying no connection on my tv screen yet internet works fine pc and all my wireless devices
Anyone have any ideas? Ive an error code vmc011 if this helps?
Thanks
Kurt

Look here http://community.bt.com/t5/BT-Vision/Multicast-VMC011-after-4-min-16-sec/m-p/871676
Does it work ok if you use the Homehub?
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Using own router

Hi
I'm currently using my own router (a Billion BiPac 7800N) for my phone line. I am now switching to infinity and want to continue using my Billion (already setup with better security than the home hub).
Does anyone know what settings I have to change in the router? I presume the password remains the same (a bt email address) but I don't have a password so I presume I won't need one for infinity?
Is there any other settings I need to be aware of?
Thanks
Tom

tomg_35 wrote:
Hi
I'm currently using my own router (a Billion BiPac 7800N) for my phone line. I am now switching to infinity and want to continue using my Billion (already setup with better security than the home hub).
Does anyone know what settings I have to change in the router? I presume the password remains the same (a bt email address) but I don't have a password so I presume I won't need one for infinity?
Is there any other settings I need to be aware of?
Thanks
Tom
Hi there,
As the other poster has rightly said, you need to connect via PPPoE, but when you input your username and password for the connection, the settings that you should use are: username: [email protected] password:[anything you want, just don't leave it blank]
I hope this additional info helps.

How To Use Your Own Router with Out Loosing Verizon's FIOS Services

How to use your own router with Verizon’s FIOS Service
First, you need a basic understanding of how FIOS works but unfortunately there are two types of FIOS systems out there. All of the systems utilize a fiber optic cable to bring TV, phone and internet to your location over one optic cable. In addition these systems provide interactivity including widgets, remote DVR, movies on demand and so forth via an IP (Internet Protocol) signal. Your STB (Set Tip Box) requires both a video and IP signal. The IP signal is necessary for all of the aforementioned interactivity. The fiber cable terminates at the Optical Network Terminal or ONT for short. The ONT converts the optics into a digital signal that can be utilized by ones equipment. From the ONT your video, phone and internet are provided to the location. This is where things can differ as the internet signal can be provided via a coaxial (MoCA or Multimedia over Coax Alliance) or RJ45 Cat5 (Ethernet) cable. It is important to identify and understand the differences of these two setups. In my case I have my internet entering via Ethernet cable, which in my humble opinion makes things a heck of a lot easier.
How does one tell the difference? In most cases it’s rather simple; just look at the Verizon’s router WAN (Wide Area Network) Port. Does it have a RJ45 (Ethernet) or Coax (TV cable Cord) going to it? If the router’s WAN port doesn’t have a coaxial connector then one will need to convert the MoCA signal into a usable Ethernet signal that routers understand. The easiest way is to use Verizon’s router as a bridge. In this method the Verizon’s router simply converts the signal and passes it along to your own router. The challenge is to try to maintain the interactivity that FIOS TV provides. Because of this one needs to supply the IP routed signal back to the FIOS router. There are multiple methods for doing this and I would recommend investigates which one make the most sense.
In my particular case the IP signal was provided by Ethernet. Again there are various ways of installing one’s own router. The hardest is to utilize Verizon’s router as a bridge. This setup requires configuring Verizon’s router as a bridge and also creating a VLAN (Virtual Local Area Networks). In addition one needs to set up their own router so it will work with the various routing tables and networks. For me this is too complex for the average person and it can be difficult to trouble shoot if something goes wrong. Please consider that Verizon will not support utilizing third party routers.
The easier method is to request an Ethernet signal (if you don’t already have one) from their ONT. I would highly recommend getting your hands on a NIM or Network Interface Module. This device is used to convert Ethernet to Coaxial so it can be fed back to your STBs. These can be purchased online and Verizon technicians can be a valuable resource with these sorts of acquisition. At the very least they can point you to the right direction. Once you have a NIM the rest is rather simple.
Log into the current Verizon Router.
Located the router’s MAC address and copy it down.
Go to the port forwarding section and copy down the Applied Rules.
Example:
Network Computer/Device: 192.168.1.100:63145
Application & Ports Forward: Application UDP Any -> 6347
Note: There may be up to three entries for each one of your Set Top Boxes.
Look at your current device list, typically found on the home screen. Copy down your STB MAC and IP address.
Example:
IP-STB1
Connection Type: Ethernet
* IP Address: 192.168.1.100
IP Address Allocation: DHCP
*MAC Address:                07:73:fFe:ad:8b:3f
* Things you will need to write down
Go to the network section and look for the main Ethernet connection. Select this and then select more setting, typically found at the bottom. Release the current lease.
Remove the Verizon router
Install your router
Connect the NIM by plugging in an Ethernet from one of the routers LAN (Local Area Network) ports to your NIM. Then connect the coax cable, the same cable that was used by Verizon router.
Set you DHCP routing IP pool to accommodate Verizon’s STB IP’s (note their IP’s start at 192.168.1.100)
Go to DHCP section and reserve the STB IP’s by inserting the IP’s and MAC addresses. This shall ensure that nothing else utilizes the same IPs as the STBs thereby preventing IP address conflict.
Add the port forwards from Step 5 above.
Clone Verizon’s Mac Address utilizing the info from step 2
Finish setting up the router in typical fashion.
Unplug and re-plugin your STB’s and test functionality. It’s best to try using a widget or Movie on demand function.
Note: if the new router can net get an internet signal contact Verizon’s support and have them release the IP and reset the ONT.
EVERYTHING should be working at this point.

3 Go to the port forwarding section and copy down the Applied Rules.
Example:
Network Computer/Device: 192.168.1.100:63145
Application & Ports Forward: Application UDP Any -> 6347
Note: There may be up to three entries for each one of your Set Top Boxes.G
Your display obviously is not like mine as mine does not dosplay the port associated with the ip address
whatever, the STB's start at 192.168.1.100 and icement by 1 for each
the port addr's will be 63145 alo incrementing by 1
there is 1 entry for each in my pf list
however each ip addr also has a port entry starting at 35000 also incrementing by 1 for each ip addr
For some unknow reason these are duplicated e.g I appear to have 11 entries exaactly the same for each stb and as the fios services rules have no action switc there is nowhere to delete the extraneous garbage.
Why do you clone the mac addr??

Why is the wifi reception on my iPhone 5 so poor. I'm not talking about in my own home with my own router. I'm talking about AT

Why is the wifi reception on my iPhone 5 so poor. I'm not talking about in my own home with my own router. I'm talking about AT&T hotspots, public hotspots, etc. I can hold my 3GS and my 5 side by side, the 3GS picks up more signals with more strength. The 5 seems to have a weaker wireless network than its predecessors. It's very frustrating because I can be 20 feet from a wireless router, and still only show 2 bars, if I don't end up losing the connection. What gives??

I've done the resets...no real help at all. Im Also on my 2nd iPhone 5. The first was replaced because of a faulty external speaker module. Both phones wifi reception pretty much suck. ESPECIALLY if the case is on. I'll luck out a little bit by taking the case off...but not much.

Installation tomorrow -- want to use my own router with ONT-611

Tomorrow I am having Verizon FIOS installed (internet only, no TV or phone services). I've been reading this morning about using my own router, which I would prefer. Previous owners of the house had FIOS so there is already an ONT-611 hanging off the side of the house, and there is the battery backup box hanging inside the garage. Also, there is an ethernet cable already ran through the cinderblock wall which hangs inside my garage.
Now, here's what I've read:
1. This ONT-611 does not support MoCA
2. The ethernet port on the ONT-611 only runs at 100mbps
I have 16 runs of CAT6 in my house which terminates to a rack in my garage which houses a 24-port gigabit switch. I would like to swing one of those runs over to the existing ethernet cable so I can connect it to my router (a small linux computer which two NICs running shorewall). I'll have to figure out how to connect those cables (both are male RJ45)... otherwise, will this configuration be supported?
As I said, I will not have TV services and do not plan to subscribe in the future. Is there any reason why I would want to go with another configuration (aka use coax and the supplied actiontec?).
Thank you!

The link smith6612 provided has good info, but these are some things I can think of, and items I have done.
I would let Verizon do their supported install with the Actiontec router set up with Ethernet WAN. That is a supported install. This way you have their router should you have issues at a later date, you can put it back to the default configuration. After Verizon leaves, you can configure it as you wish. See if they will extend the cable from the ONT over to your rack. They probably will run a new cable for you. Put the Actiontec at your rack and connect one of its LAN ports to your switch until after the install. Then if you have your Linux PC in close proximity to two of your 16 outlets you could loop two of those those back to your rack. One to the router and one to your switch. Actually you could just use the router as a second switch if you turn off DHCP and connect one LAN port to the ONT and another LAN port to the cable going to your Shorwall's WAN. Many many ways. Shorewall WAN side would need to be configured properly for your ONT and FiOS set up. That is why I say let them do their thing first. Some of the older installs are still using PPPoE and some newer are DHCP. that would make a difference on how you configure your Linux box's WAN if it is directly connected to the ONT VIA the cable or a switch, which could just be the Actiontec without the WAN ports used. If you use the Actiontec as a switch directly off of the ONT, be sure to turn off DHCP and the WiFi first, and only use two lan ports. DON'T pull more than one public IP from the ONT.
I have had various configurations, and always Ethernet from the ONT. The original ONT 610 did not support MOCA and it had to be bridged from the Actiontec or a NIM-100. I have connected my Linux IP Cop with Dan's Guardian Proxy Filter directly to the ONT and used the Actiontec as a MOCA bridge for my TV services. Right now I have the Actiontec connected directly to the ONT first via Ethernet WAN, and have 2 DVRs, and 2 STBs for the TV. The Actiontec and TVs are considered The DMZ, with my Linux box called the moat. All my workstations and server sit behind the Linux proxy filter firewall. I set fixed IPs on my private network via MAC and DHCP, and the proxy is transparent. With exceptions on the filter for certain computers.
With my configuration, I can call with any issues and it is supported. Short of my Linux box and PCs. Which I don't want anyone into anyway. I have been thinking of putting the Linux box back in front, so I am not running dual NAT, but I need to have a supported platform for testing and using FiOS features. Thus I put the Actiontec back in front, and my stuff is safer behind the second NAT.

Using your own router - out of warranty

I'm having router problems - i know its an issue with the router, the number of devices connected and the fact that the router itself is quite old. I don't need to troubleshoot the router (which I've done with support). I was told I might need a replacement router. I work with computers and have plenty of great routers available - and can't really afford to spend £70 on a router, especially for one that's not as good as what I have available to me for free. I'm also aware of how to track back to my username and password to 'hack into' my own broadband account by discovering my username and password - but I know its out of Sky's Ts an Cs. So my question to Sky is this: Given that I have been a Sky customer for 6 or 7 years, given that my router is not up to the job and given that I can't afford to buy a new router, nor would I want to when I have about 20 sitting in a drawer. Given that I could change providers and get a free router, or use whatever router I want with BT, virgin, Talk Talk etc. And, finally, given that I've otherwise had a great servive from the broadband itself, and don't really want to have to change. Given all the above, Sky, what would you suggest I do?

Firstly, are you an ADSL or Fibre customer as your posts so far don't make it clear?
If you are an ADSL customer, you are free to use any router you wish although, obviously, Sky can't provide you support for it. The login details are easily found by searching this forum for the phrase "own router"
If you are a Fibre customer, then as (and the T&C's) has pointed out you MUST use the Sky Hub to connect to the service. You can piggy back a second router and/or wireless access point if you wish but the Sky Hub must establish the connection. Any discussion beyond that is not permitted on the forum as it is against the house rules to discuss anything that would lead to a breach of T&C's.

Why are the wi-fi speeds bad even with my own rout...

When I connect with an Ethernet, I get amazing speed of 74/76mb download. but soon as i connect via wi-fi with the hub or my own router, speeds dropped till about 20/25mbs.. whats causing the problem, I have tried to change channels but to no effect..
no question of the speed is great via the ethernet connection so i know there is no issue with the line or other wise, its just an wi-fi issue
Solved!
Go to Solution.

I've got a Netgear WNDR3700v2 and I get the same (using either band 5Ghz or 2.4Ghz), my throughput seems to max out at 29Mb/s (can get 34 if I turn off wireless encryption - but not prepared to do that)
I don't generally use wi-fi for serious file transfers though, so it's not really a big concern for me but would be nice to hit full speed on wireless
Download a copy of inSIDDer (http://www.metageek.net/)& have a look to see if your area is particuarly Wifi saturated

Will using your own router allow loopback connections?

SomeJoe7777 you are correct regarding the route of a given packet when using a WAN IP locally (NAT loopback). However will again state that NAT loopback does not work using a router behind the NVG589. As you stated it should...which is why the issue lies with the NVG589. Most likely something to do with IP passthrough mode on the NVG589 not being a true bridge mode which in turn does effect one's own router. Bottom line I encourage you to attempt NAT loopback yourself with a router behind the NVG589 and report your results. It wouldn't be the first time that ATT said something should work only to later admit it was a problem with their hardware.

NAT loopback is defined as a function of a router where connections to ports on the outside IP address are translated and routed to the server defined in the router, even when the connection attempt comes from the "inside" portion of the network.
e.g.. Let's say we have a router with an outside IP address of 99.99.99.99 (a public IP address), and the router has been configured so that inbound connections to port 80 on that WAN interface are translated to a destination address of 192.168.1.20 (on the inside network). This enables a web server running on the 192.168.1.20 machine to respond to web requests from the Internet, provided those web requests are coming in to 99.99.99.99.
If another computer on the internal network, such as 192.168.1.101, can pull up the web site using http://99.99.99.99 (instead of the direct connection of http://192.168.1.20 ) then the router implements NAT loopback.
Now, knowing that, let's review:
If you use your own router, and it is the device doing the network address translation (NAT), that means it's outside address is x.x.x.x (a publically routable IP address), and it's inside addresses are private, in RFC 1918 address space. This can be set up with the U-Verse modems using DMZPlus (2Wire/Pace 3xxx series gateways) or IP Passthrough (Motorola NVG5xx series gateways).
NAT loopback in this situation is completely dependent on the functionality of your own router. By definition, any NAT loopback request under this circumstance never leaves your network and your router, and thus never touches the U-Verse gateway at all.
The bottom line is that if NAT loopback is not working with your router, then you either haven't configured your router properly, or your router doesn't support it. The ISP gateway has no bearing on this functionality whatsoever when configured in conjunction with your own router as described above.

Customize My Own Route On a Gps

i just bought a garmin 42lm gps and im havin trouble customizing my own route to where i wanna go. i need help

stripowind, If you want to post the issue that you are having with a little more detail, I might be able to assist you in your route setting. Below are the basic route settings for Garmin 42lm (might miss a few details here and there, sorry if i do). Where to? and View Map are your 2 options on the screen. If you click on view map you can find out where you currently are in the world. If you are seeing an unknown street, address, building, or different state that you are not in, then please head outside to get a clear view of the sky, so that the satellites can aqcuire signal on your location. once you have the correct location displayed on where you are at, you can now navigate. Click the back arrow at the bottom right or left of the screen from view map. Now click on the Where To. from there you can type in the exact address by clicking "address." this will then pull up a new screen with an option of the STATE. If the address is in the same state, and it already has your location you will be able to then click on the state that is provided. If you are wanting to navigate to a different state then you can click the bottom option that reads state, and enter the one you are looking for. Once you click on the state, a new screen will pop up asking for the city, start typing in the city within the state, and by the process of elimination with the cities that are in that state, there will be keys that will not be able to be pressed, and other keys that will help you click them, by being the only ones you can press. It is garmins cool way to get you to your address much quicker, by helping eliminate your possible miss entries when clicking on the keyboard. once the city is selected you will then be able to click next, and pop up a new screen. it will then ask for either the street name or house number. enter whatever the next few screens prompt to get you to the button that says "GO." Once you see that go you are now able to click that button, the garmin will then load the proper guidance for you and you are NAVIGATING! Hope this helps you out, and please use garmins website to address more in depth FAQ's that can be found here:https://support.garmin.com/support/searchSupport/search.htm In case I messed up or missed a step. Thanks for taking the time to post your concerns, and please don't hesitate to let me know if i could assist you further!

No connection with my Asus RT-N66U router to Infin...

Hi experts,
The BT engineer came round to set up my new BT Infinity broadband earlier today. I was unhappy to find I was only hitting 16mb download speeds compared to the advertised maximum of 76mb.
Previously I was using TalkTalk using a T-Link 8177 modem and Asus N66U router. So after the engineer left I thought I'd ditch the HH5, and use my own equipment.
However, I simply cannot get it to connect to the internet.
I've trawled the forums and am confident that the modem and router are both compatible with BT Infinity. I've accessed the Asus router settings and set up a PPPoE connection with username '[email protected]' and password 'BT' but no luck. I've even tried the 'Quick Internet Setup' but keep getting a 'Detecting the internet timed out' message.
Plug in the HH5 and it works fine.
What am I doing wrong?
Thank guys.

To confirm what. The T-Link modem won't work with Infinity.
If you are meaning the problem with your speeds what was your estimated speed at time of ordering. Did you run the estimated speed test.
Can you run this checker and post back a screen shot of the results
http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/adslchecker.welcome
and use this speed tester then carry out the further diagnostics and post back a screen shot of all the results including your IP profile for up and down.
http://speedtest.btwholesale.com/

Using your own router

Good day all, I would like to hear from others who use their own routers to connect to Verizon Fios. Are there any pro's or con's to using your own? Will your connection be more secure using Verizon's equipment or your own. Any difference in speeds noted? Thank for your opinions.

Just got FiOS today and faced the same issue. I need to keep the Actiontec router for the TV STBs, but it has not the same features as my D-Link 655. There are instructions online on how to turn the Actiontec into a network bridge, but that may interfere with services.
Here is what I did:
1. Change the IP of the Actiontec router to something different than the 192.168.1.1 so that it doesn't interfere with your existing router (unless your router already uses a different IP, then you can skip this). I followed the instructions from here: http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20329726-northeast-how-to-change-the-default-IP-on-Actiontec-M1424W...
Note 1: Once you change the address you need to reconnect to the other IP address!
Note 2: You also need to change the DHCP range on the Actiontec to no longer include the new IP. This can be changed on the same page.
2. Make sure that you power cycle the STBs, otherwise they still look for the router on the old address
3. Plug your router of choice in and connect one of the LAN ports of the Actiontec to the WAN port of your router
4. You now should be able to access Internet through your router.
I use DynDNS so that I can remote into a system at home using a domain name. If you have such a setup be aware that the web admin of the Actiontec will be accessible from the Internet!
I fixed that by
1. Setting the Actiontec's firewall to the lowest setting
2. Forwarding all TCP and UDP ports to my router except for the port 4567. That apparently is used by something for Verizon (the TV STBs??), so you may need to create multiple forwarding rules. If you choose custom ports you can specify a range, which is really nice. This way all traffic except for port 4567 hits my router and either goes where I forwarded the ports to or goes nowhere as there is no service.
This setup should provide the best of both worlds. I say should as I yet have to test it for a while,but so far things are working out OK.
If you have your own wireless and don't need the wireless from the Actiontec then turn the wireless off on the Actiontec and detach the antenna.

Alternative VDSL Modem/Router for Infinity

Hi,
I'm using BT Infinity and am thinking about replacing the Home Hub and VDSL modem with an alternative. Ideally I want a combined unit so it will probably be a FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7390 as there isn't a vast amount of choice at the moment (hurry up Draytek). So I have a couple of questions:
Has anybody done this? I'm not interested if you've just replaced the router, but has anyone replaced both the modem and the router or just the modem?
Does anyone know if there's any reason why it would not be possible (does the BT equipment do anything special or identify itself in some way)?
Does anyone know the correct Modem settings?
Thanks,
LJ

I have just purchased the Fritz!box 7390 VDSL Integrated system to replace the two boxes you get with Infinity. However, irrespective of what configuration I enter into the new router I am unable to actually login.
It certainly sees BT Infinity and I am getting connectivity at layer 2 and the new Router is showing good upstream and downstream speeds, but I cannot login with either the default credentials or the BT credentials provided to me when I bought the service!
Anyone know how to get this router or any other router working and with what settings, cause I think I have tried them all..LOL
Thanks in advance G

How do I use a netgear N600 router with Infinity 1

I have searched various forums etc. with mixed success so am hoping that someone here can give me an idiot's guide to connecting to the internet using my netgear N600 router rather than using the BT Homehub 5. BT say that I can do it (despite my router being set up for ADSL and the HH5 being set up for VDSL) but that they can't tell me how! They sent me an email with various details I would need but I can't see where most of them need to be added when I connect to the netgear set up wizard. What I could see I filled in but when I tried to connect the netgear genie told me the ADSL cable wasn't connected. Can anyone give me a step by step guide of what to do please? I would be very grateful. Thanks

nicolawatt wrote:
I just have the homehub 5 - I have seen various complicated descriptions elsewhere explaining how to use the HH5 as just a modem or how to just connect directly with the Netgear but all have been a bit over my head!
The HH5 cannot be used as a stand alone modem. You could use the Netgear as a simple wireless access point, but you would lose most of the functions, and would be better off using a proper wireless access point.
You cannot use the Netgear as a router, without a modem.
There are some useful help pages here, for BT Broadband customers only, on my personal website.
BT Broadband customers - help with broadband, WiFi, networking, e-mail and phones.

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