P&ID for process control

Hi,
I would like to develop a user interface in labview environment. i would like to develop pipe and instrumentation diagram(flow control with valves,pipe etc).
so now my question is. does labview offers symbols for Pipe and instrumentation diagram? if yes then in which module i can get it? i just search PID in labview forum , but it seems to be Proportional integral derivative. i think this is different PID not P&ID that i am looking for.
so how can i develop P&ID using labview.
Regards
Hood

Hi,
I have checked the DSC module. i did not buy this module.but i am intending to do that. how can i see the tiff/jpeg images of the active graphics that Labview offers in this module?please update me. before making any decission to purchase this module, i would like to see which standard interactive graphics library i will get. a few example would be enough .like different valves, pipes etc.
i already searched but did not find, can you help me please?
With Kind Regards
Hood

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Error of agent determination:
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