P&L by Profit Center Wise and COst Center wise

Hi All,
Profit Center Reporting u2013 I need a P&L by Profit Center. Unfortunately in SAP, there is no way to u201Cmarryu201D the profit center and cost center accounting into a single report that is filtered by PC/CC. Example: I need to see the P&L for my Orlando region (Profit Center and Cost Center Range = 5450 to 5459). The report should return exactly what is returned when I run a company-wide P&L through standard report: S_ALR_87012284.
In fact, if I could simply filter the standard report in SAP there would be no problem, but there is no way to do that successfully u2013 the filters inhibit the correct results. Also, the standard profit center reports are only provided at the line level, so the report is so ugly it cannot be evaluated like a simple P&L whereas S_ALR_87012284 draws upon a u201Cdesignu201D called Financial Statement Version (which I have manipulated to be what I need).
Thanks,
Madhu

Hi, Go to tcode KDH1 and maintain your account group (like 127) as following format. I am 100% sure this will be result as per your wish. Execute report S_ALR_87013340 give Profit Center and Group as you created.
127     Profit After Taxation
     129     Provision for Taxation
          201     Provision for taxation
     128     Profit Before Taxation
          130     Operating Profit
               210     Gross Profit
                    310     Sales
                         400     External Sales
                         711001     Whole Sale
                         711002     Retail
                         711003     Direct
Feel free to come back incase.

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