P31 NEO with 4x 1Gb memory problem

Hi,
I just met the problem with my P31 NEO mobo which doesn't accept my 2 new Corsair 1Gb CM2X1024-6400C4 - 4-4-4-12 (2.10V ver6.3)
I've already have 2 Corsair 1Gb CM2X1024 - 5-5-5-12 (1.9V ver5.2) which work fine.
Is it possible to make them all work (they seem to be single-sided but not sure) ?
If yes, wich parameters need to bet set ?
Thanks a lot in advance for your answers.
Fred

You can try to set them all to 5-5-5-12 and see what happens.
Im not sure also if your memorycontroller, an ICH7, will "accept" 4x1GB @ 800MHz.
I know that some older memorycontrollers will have problems running "double" dualchannel.
My board for instance, ICH9 memorycontroller, can only operate @667 MHz when all 4 slots are occupied.
The P45 and certainly the newer models, ICH10(R) controller, can take up to 1066MHz in double dualchannel.
If 800MHz dosnt work, look with cpu-z to see what the setting would be @667MHz and adjust them accordingly and see if that works.
If that doenst work either, your probably better of buying 2x2GB.
Succes and keep us posted

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