P35 Neo2-FR OS Install Problem

Ok this is gonna be long so bear with me...
I recently purchased a new board, CPU and RAM for a long overdue upgrade. I installed all the components and the machine booted up fine, other than the dreaded dual boot. The problem I am having is a freeze or reboot during OS install. At first it was freezing during copy of system files, usually at the same spot of around 47%, but I have seen it all over the place. It won't let me do a regular format of disk without freeze or reboot, only a quick. After many tries and 3 different Win Pro disks, the other 2 with SP2 instead of 3, I have gotten as far as the 2nd copy of files in the XP GUI. Now I have tried to install IDE to IDE, SATA to IDE, IDE to SATA and SATA to SATA. One of either sticks of RAM in all slots. Purchased new PSU thinking that my old one wasn't powerful enough. Reseated CPU and cooler, added extra thermal grease. Reset BIOS settings to default. Cleared CMOS. I even tried installing Vista and Ubuntu just for kicks and got notta. The reboot comes out of nowhere and I have even had the thing freeze on me in BIOS once. I figured before I packed up the new items for RMA to Newegg I would ask here, after many searches, to see if anyone had any input.
Rig is as follows-
MSI P35 Neo2-FR LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboardwith 1.8 Bios
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor
G Skill 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
SAPPHIRE 100162L Radeon X1300XT 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 PCI Express x16
Ultra LSP 650 Pro +12v=38A 650 watts

I am trying with only one HDD and a CD-ROM.
I've been trying with one of each of the two sticks of RAM in ever slot. Just got done trying with different voltage on RAM and also tried different voltage on the CPU, no luck. Either freezes or reboots.

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Hello,
How old are the drives?
Try a full write 0 on both drives and see what happens after.
http://hddguru.com/content/en/software/2006.04.12-HDD-Low-Level-Format-Tool/
You will need a working pc to do this.
Take both drives out and run HDDGURU LLF tool on them, this will do the write 0.

P35 Neo2-FR / Marvell Controller problem. - DVD/CD Burning

I think this is hardware related and more like limitation of the model rather than one faulty motherboard.
My setup is
P35 Neo2-FR / E8400 / WinXP
I have all 4 intel SATA for RAID so I've used Marvell controller for my DVDRW. 1st was NEC drive IDE and while it read disc fine it couldn't burn any CD/DVDs
I thought it was faulty DVDRW so I've bought a new samsung SATA burner. It has SAME exact problem. Cannot start burning.
I've tested the same unit with different computer, and of course it works.
I'm sure not many people have similar spec as mine (4 SATA HD RAIDS) so this might go unnoticed but I find it a very serious problem.

Quote from: larciel on 12-February-08, 07:08:08
I just found out that it is actually reported as SCSI.
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You might be right. This might be issue with Raid and Marvell conflicting.
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You could disconnect your raid setup and attach your burner to a Intel SATA port and see what the Intel controller thinks about your burner. Bios in none raid mode and fast boot disabled so you can see whats going on.
Boy there is another possible problem. I would never use the DriverPacks on hardware that I can get drivers for manually. Did you slipstream the DriverPack into your XP disk? I have seen the wrong drivers used and or mis configured when doing so.

MSI P35 Neo2 Fir Patriot Memory Problems.

Hi,
Having problems with my Patriot Performance PC2-6400 Low Latency Memory DDR2 (800mhz) 4-4-4-12, 2,2v, 2 * (2gb(2*1GB)kit) =4gb total
on a MSI P35 Neo2 Fir moderboard with Intel Q6600 cpu)
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thanks in advance swefin

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When i check the memory with CPU-Zv1.44 the memory only goes with the frequencys of
DRAM Frequenzy 399.5mhz
~400 MHz is the correct frequency for your modules. CPU-Z shows real clock speed. DDR means Double Data Rate (two transactions per clock cycle). Multiply 399.5 MHz by two in your head and you have your effective DDR(2) rating of 800 MHz. There is no problem here.
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Why doesn't they go in 4-4-4-12 frequencys Huh
Have tried to manually change dram timing in bios but no success
so i went back to auto dram timing.
What can i do to get the 4-4-4-12 timings.
CL5 is the standard latency for DDR2-800 modules. It ensures that they are able to operate @JEDEC standard voltage settings @1.8V (+/-0.1V). The board is supposed to set memory timings to CL5, otherwise your system would not be able to boot at standard voltage. Check the "SPD" tab in CPU-Z and look for the standard timings that were programmed into the SPD chips of your modules (400 MHz), I am absolutely sure that you won't see 4-4-4-12 @400 MHz @1.8V being part of the SPD tables.
You have to manually adjust memory timings in BIOS to 4-4-4-12 AND also increase memory voltage to the value the manufacturer recommends for CL4/DDR2-800 MHz. The voltage is usually 2.0-2.2V depending on the brand and type of RAM in use.

P35 Neo2-FIR New Build Problems

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The lights are not the final word as I have gotten that indication when my video card was not properly seated on an other board even tho it was supposed to mean processor failure for that board too. Maybe the vendor of the board can lend you an other cpu to flash bios. An other alternative would be to RMA for reflash if possible once you are sure it's the processor and the bios.
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MSI P35 Neo2-FR S3/USB Problems & Remote Desktop Video Problem

I recently received a new board back from RMA (my old one wouldn't post at all) and decided to re-install Windows XP back on it after verifying that it was working, and now I'm having a few issues with the board that were fine and working with the old board.
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Thanks for the reply kourosh. I have used both the 1.9 (latest) and downgraded to the 1.8 BIOS that I was using on the board pre-RMA as stated in my initial post. It just doesn't make sense that I had everything working properly with the old board, and with the new board that I received back from MSI, things just don't work. I'm using the exact same hardware and have done multiple re-installs with different drivers etc.
I doubt that part two is a networking problem as I stated in my initial post that I'm testing by going outside of the LAN and coming back in from outside. I think it has more to do with waking it up remotely multiple times (eg. wake up remotely-->sleep-->wake up again-->sleep again-->possible black screen error), but I haven't had the time to do all of the testing.
I just find it strange that these things are not working as they were, and I'm beginning to blame the board again as I know how they SHOULD be working on the same exact board.
Anyway... thanks again for the reply.
kk

Neo2: many winxp install problems, but is this my solution?

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You may want to try using the ide hard drive to install windows to see if it is indeed a problem with your cd (I am assuming that you have the proper/latest drivers for your SATA controller). If it works your SATA hard drive or SATA on the mother board may be bad.
Good luck

MSI P35 NEO2-FR start up problem

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P35 Neo2 - OS died, need help restoring RAID after re-install of XP

I have a P35 Neo2 with on-board Intel RAID. I need a bit of help getting a two drive RAID going again after reinstalling XP.
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A 200gb partition is restored, but the 120gb is not, which is confusing. ALso, when I look at the logical drives in the partition, I'm beginning to think I had the 200gb mirror /120 gb storage backwards. The data restored is not something I would be concerned with losing. It's installed applications, and multimedia files that I could lose without worry.
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Part of my difficulty is I had a brain injury in 2001, followed by another in 2003. The 2nd injury caused 6 months of what the docs call it a walking coma - I walked and talked, but have no memory of the time.
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Until then I had been a 'System Admin' for micro-businesses, (max - 15 computers). I built systems and servers, installed networks, maintained them and did all the support. Basically I was these company's Sys Admin on an as-needed basis.
One thing I lost was the ability to troubleshoot and repair hardware. Combined with other cognitive problems, I was forced into closing my business. At the time, I was maintaining close to fifty offices; ~20 had Peer-to-Peer networks & ~20 had servers I had built.
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I didn't do much with RAID when I was still in the biz, and this is the first time I've had problems with a RAID of my own, so I'm struggling to figure this stuff out.
Should I be able to install one of these drives by itself so I can get the data from it? The way I understand the theory of RAID is that if one drive dies, you can put another in and the mirrored portion will re-create itself on the new drive. Couldn't that be a way to get the important data off the drive or drives if they don't want to go back together as a RAID?
I could back each up to the online service and then just rebuild them. Not my first choice, but it would reduce my stress level if I thought I could do it.
Sorry to go on, but now you can see why I'm both struggling & worried.
Thanks for any info or help.
Later,
GeoD

Bios Update Problem P35 Neo2 - MS 7345 V 1.1

Hello
I've update my board bios because a "hard disk not present" problem and since it I was having several problems:
I'm running Windows XP SP2 and it takes a very long time to start (in bar and loading windows screen).
The major problem I have is when power on the computer it is alwayls showing the red font message that says it was a problem overclocking, so everytime I need to go into setup and to save changes whitout changing anything.
I suspect the bios I've installed is not the right one since the start screen says "MSI Neo Patinum" instead Neo2, but I've used Live Update ... so it should be the rigth one.
Can anybody help me please with this?

Quote from: Jack t.N. on 30-April-09, 06:32:24
Hi,
first of all, can you please provide full system specs for comparison? Read the >>Posting Guide<< to get an idea of what we need to know.
Hello Again, first of all I want to thank you for answering so fast. Also I have to apologize for my "not so good" english.
# CPU brand, model and speed (eg AMD Athlon64 X2 5600+ 'Brisbane' core)
DualCore Intel Pentium E2160, 1800 MHz (9 x 200)
# Motherboard model (eg K9A2 Platinum, NOT just MS-7376!!)
P35 Neo2 - MS 7345 V 1.1
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=&prod_no=1261
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2x1GB Supertalent DDR2-800 DDR2 SDRAM (5-5-5-15 @ 400 MHz) (4-4-4-10 @ 266 MHz) (3-3-3-8 @ 200 MHz)
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XFX NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT (256 MB)
# Hard drive(s) brand, size, type, speed (eg 2x Seagate 200gb SATA150)
WDC WD3200AAKS-00VYA0 (298 GB, SATAII)
# Any other peripheral cards and devices (eg MSI TV@nywhere Plus TV card, MSI PC54G2 Wireless LAN PCI card)
Multi Flash Reader USB Device
Realtek RTL8185 802.11a/b/g Wireless LAN Network Adapter   PCI
# Operating system and version (eg Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 32bit)
MICROSOFT Windows XP Pro SP2 32bit
# Power Supply Unit brand and output in watts and DC output (amps)
Vistuba 550W Power Supply
+3.3 V   35A
+5 V     30A
+12 V   20A
Quote from: Jack t.N. on 30-April-09, 06:32:24
Three important questions:
1. Which BIOS Version were you using before the update.
2. Which Version did you update to?
3. Did you clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU after the Update?
1. I'm not sure what bios version come with the board (my misstake) but it was older than I've now.
2. I'm actually using AMI 1.10 Build Date: 11/10/2008
3. Yes I did
Quote from: Jack t.N. on 30-April-09, 06:32:24
Did that problem disappear after the update?
The hard disk problem didn't show any more
Quote from: Jack t.N. on 30-April-09, 06:32:24
What kind of hard drive are you using and what port is it connected to?
WDC WD3200AAKS-00VYA0 (298 GB, SATAII)
it is connected to SATA 5 port acording to Board manual diagram
I've checked hard disk SMART and health and it is ok
Quote from: Jack t.N. on 30-April-09, 06:32:24
- If you have an IDE/PATA Hard Drive:
.....What kind of cable are you using? (40 or 80 wire)
.....Is there any other drive connected to the IDE cable (how are the jumper settings for each drive (MASTER/SLAVE/CABLE Select)?
I Haven't IDE/PATA Hard Drive
I will tell you the story:
I bought the computer and I was using the Blue (Marvel) sata port for the hard disk.
Then a normal day I began to have a very low Windows start so I changed the sata plug to a purple one and the problem disappeared.
Then I began to have the same problem again so I changed the plug again but problem was there anyway so decide to update bios to 1.8 version.
The problem come back randomly and sometimes it disappeared just changing the sata port to wich the plug is connected to.
After that I began to have the "No hard disk present" error and I cleared the CMOS and tried several things until it come to work again.
Few time ago I noticed that was a newer bios version, so then I used Live Update to update bios and drivers again.
Now I'm having the "slow" problem again. I'have been trying several configurations and testing programs but I just didn't find anything wrong.
Edit:
I'm having the first post problem (overcloking message after power on)
I also had a very rare issue few time ago when shutdown the pc: few minutes later it power on by It self !! until I have disabled every wake up event from setup.
I hope you can understand, and thanks again for your help.
Gabriel.

MSI P35 Neo2 (MS-7345) strange BIOS problem

Hi all,
My first post here - just wondering if someone could help me.
I recently 'accidentally' flashing my bios version from 1.8 to 1.C on my MS-7345 (P35 Neo 2) board, after deciding to install live update. While I know it's often considered a bad idea to flash the bios when everything's working, but I did it anyway. Since doing it I got many many BSODs. I'm running XP Pro 32 bit btw. I got these BSODs mostly when the computer was working hard, but not always. I'd barely be able to do anything sometimes. Occasionally Windows would even crash on start-up.
I made sure that i was running the latest drivers for all my components, peripherals, etc, including motherboard and graphics card. I even reformatted my HDD and reinstalled Windows from scratch just in case it was a virus. However, the problem has continued, and I even got a few BSODs during my reinstallation of Windows XP Pro.
Another thing I tried was reverting back to the old bios version (1.8), but this made no difference, so I eventually returned to the latest 1.C.
I've written down all the error message codes somewhere, though I've currently misplaced the sheet I wrote them on. If you need to know the exact codes I can locate it and add it to this thread. I probably got about 30 BSODs per day. Often they were IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL type ones, but definitely not just that. Each code I got I researched thoroughly to see if I could work out the problem. Some pointed to RAM Failure, some to HDD problems, some to bad Graphics card, some to corrupt drivers. Pretty much anything you can think of, the errors 'blamed'. However, I had a hunch regarding the bios / motherboard.
I eventually discovered (by chance) after re-flashing the bios (which I'm doing in DOS using the suggested AFUD after a reboot) that if I...
1. Switch on the computer
2. Enter BIOS Setup by pressing Del
3. Turn of the boot sector protection (in order to flash bios) and set USB stick to be the first boot device
4. Boot to DOS from my USB stick and flash the bios in DOS
5. Reboot
This is the critical bit...
6. When when I get the 'Bad checksum, Press F1 to enter BIOS setup or F2 to use default values' PRESS F2 (it won't work if you go into bios setup as this will then require another reboot before loading windows).
7. Let Windows XP load as normal.
If I follow all the above steps (I discovered this by mistake), the computer is 100% stable. I even tried some burnout tests and played some cpu & gpu intensive games with settings on full to give it a real workout, which previously would have ended up in a BSOD within seconds.
However....
If I then reboot the computer (or shut down and switch it back on the next day) and let windows load, it will be unstable again, just as before!
In other words, I'm currently having to flash the bios every time I switch on my PC or reboot it in order to get a stable system.
So this problem isn't fixed - but I've found a workaround at least for now.
Incidentally I've tried installing a new CR2032 bios battery, since I thought it might be losing settings on reboot, but this didn't make any difference.
I personally don't think it's actually the BIOS Reflashing that's making it work - just something weird in the bios settings. It's as if 'erasing the checksum' (cleaning out these dodgy bios settings), which forces the PC to load the defaults the next time it boots, is helping. I have to just mention that going into bios set-up and choosing 'Load Fail-Safe Defaults' does NOT help, since the computer reboots when you 'Save Settings and Exit'. It's as if the bios settings corrupt every time on boot, which causes the crashes.
Does anyone have any suggestions?

To return to the previous bios, just download the one you want and use the forums tool.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P35-Neo2-FR---FIR.html#/?div=BIOS
>>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
Before you do that, try to boot and enter bios. Hit f6 for optimized defaults save and exit see if the problem persists.

P35 Neo2-FR Bios problem

Hello, well the problem being, my system goes like this : system freezes, keyboard stops answering after some period of time. I just build a new system.
My CPU is running stock.
My RAM is running stock.
My VGA is running stock.
My drivers are right.
I did run a memtestx86 & no error reported.
I did not test another CPU
I did not test another GPU
I did not test another MOBO
MSI P35 Neo2-FR PCB v1.2
Intel Pentium 4 E541 @ 3.2GHz
Tuniq Tower 120
OCZ DDR2 PC2-6400 SLI-Ready Edition Dual Channel 2x1GB
Galaxy 9600GSO 384M 192BIT GDDR3 (driver v175.16)
Maxtor 200GB SATA & Samsung & Maxtor 160GB SATA
Lite-On & BenQ DVD-RW
Huntkey Green Star 550W PSU
Cooler Master Centurion 590
WinXP SP3
everything running default speed & settings.also, i just fresh install my winxp. winxp installation running fine. but when i log-on,after some period of time the system crash. i tried flashing beta build bios.also no luck.but suprisingly, my system seems fine when flashed to A7360IMS.182T bios! no freeze,no crash! is there something wrong with my system here? is it my mobo?

At this time, i'm using A7360IMS.182T bios. my system will crash in windows when flashed to A7345IMS.xxx bios.even the oficially one.
Quote from: flobelix on 29-June-08, 02:53:27
nightmare's right. The bios you flashed is not for P35 Neo2/Plat. Sure it's that bios and sure you have a Neo2
I know it's not for P35 Neo2/Plat. I'm sure i have Neo2.It's written everywhere: the box,mobo,manual,CD, etc... Do i need to post a picture of my mobo here???

P35 NEO2-FR startup problems, cannot get into BIOS

Hello!
So i recently bought new parts for my computer:
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz 1333Mhz
Motherboard: MSI P35 NEO2-FR
RAM: 2x Corsair TWIN2X 2048MB 6400 DDR2
PSU: Corsair Powersupply 550W (3.3v/30A, 5v/28A, 12V/41A)
Graphics Card: GeForce 7800 gtx (this part was not new, so i dont have any more details for it)
I start up my computer with only the CPU, graphics card and one RAM module installed, and a keyboard attached to the ps2 slot (using a converter) for simplicity. The problem is that the computer freezes up when the MSI screen comes up, and i cannot get into the BIOS. The LED lights on the motherboard is indicating the state "Testing base and extended memory". And b/c i go straight into the MSI start-up screen i am unable to find out what BIOS version i am running, though i am fairly sure (i have talked with another person that bought the same motherboard from the same shop as me at about the same time, and he is running BIOS v1.8) that it is 1.8 and it is therefore compitable with my cpu. I have also tried several different types of RAM with the same results. I am also very certain that i have all the cables plugged in correctly (have also tried resetting CMOS ALOT of times) but still the same result.
Does anyone have any clue what could be the problem ?

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i am unable to find out what BIOS version i am running
Have a look at the sticker on the BIOS Chip of the board to check the factory BIOS Version. The following picture shows the location of the chip on your board (it is actually a P35 Platinum, but it has the same PCB as the P35 Neo2-FR):
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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz 1333Mhz
If you have an E8500, E0 (and not an E8500, C0) you will need BIOS v1.9 [A7345IMS.190] to have full support for your processor. You can identify your processor model by checking its sSpec number (on the CPU itself or on the box):
E8500, C0 ---> sSpec#=SLAPK {Supported since BIOS v1.6 [A7345IMS.160]}
E8500, E0 ---> sSpec#=SLB9K {Supported since BIOS v1.9 [A7345IMS.190]}

P35 NEO2-FIR Controler problems

Specs new pc:
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00 GHz, 1333 MHz, 6 MB
MSI P35 NEO2-FIR (stock bios, not at home so I can't check which bios version it currently has)
Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 512MB, PCI-e 16x
Corsair TWIN2x4096-6400C4DHX PC6400, 800 MHz, cas 4, Kit of 2
Antec Earthwatts 500 Watt, 80 Plus Rating
Samsung SpinPoint F1 1TB, 720 Rpm, 32 MB Cache, S-ATA II/300
Lite-On DVD-RW LH-20A1S S-ATA
Everything on STOCK speeds. (no overclocking)
While building the pc I inserted my DVD-player from my previous pc (IDE interface) and connected it properly to the pc. (jumper on master and connected to the master connector on the IDE cable)
It gave me an error during windows installation that the disk would be corrupted or something similar while the disk was in the IDE drive. Then I placed the Windows disk into the S-ATA Lite-On drive and then it didn't have any problem and continued installation of windows. After installation I noticed windows didn't recognize the IDE player. I checked the bios and it wouldn't show up there either.
Then I inserted two of my IDE harddrives (320GB Maxtor and 120GB Maxtor) and they wouldn't show up on the bios or in windows either.
This all happened 1 week ago.
Today I booted my pc to find out it didn't have any internet/network connection so I thought my housemates did something with the router but soon I found out my pc was the problem. Reinstalled windows to check if it was a driver issue. Nothing helped so now my IDE controller and LAN controller both seem to be broken.
Would this be possible because of an unstable bios version or is my motherboard dying slowly?
Thanks in advance for reactions.

I highly doubt another IDE drive would work, it's worth a shot though. Might try it tonight when I get home.
About the LAN driver: I installed Windows XP Pro twice, installed all drivers and the hardware manager wasn't showing any unknown hardware. So I guess it's safe to say it wasn't a driver issue since it just stopped working after a week and I didn't change the software or hardware setup in any way.

P35 NEO2 FIR boot problems

Hi,
I'm another unlucky MSI P35 NEO2 FIR user whose mainboard does not boot. My config is as follows -
mainboard: MSI P35 NEO2 FIR
cpu: E6750
ram: OCZ Platinum Rev.2 800 2x1G
gfx card: MSI 8600GT
psu: Corsair VXEU450W
In the beginning it worked flawlessly for about 4 months. Then the boot problems started to appear. After turning on, the mainboard status leds configuration was red-red-green-red, the system kept rebooting and I had to wait several minutes before successful boot occured. (The whole procedure involved additional amount of hassle for me because I had to open the case and disconnect the harddisk during the "warm-up" time.) Gradually the time before successful boot increased. At one time I was not able to boot for several hours. Then I changed FSB jumpers configuration, moved memory to different slots, reseted BIOS and I don't even remember what I tried before eventually miraculously booting the system. After this accident I had to wait 0.5-1.5h for successful boot. In the meantime I upgraded BIOS to v1.8. Nothing changed. This lasted few weeks, and now the big problem reoccured. Initially, the behaviour after turning on slightly changed. Instead of red-red-green-red leds, I got 4 reds. The big additional disadvantage of this was that the system was not rebooting automatically after a few seconds. I had to manually turn it off then turn on again and repeat it until I got red-red-green-red leds, after which automatic reboots started. It's been getting worse and worse since then and now the situation is that I haven't been able to boot the system for a few days. Each of those days I tried for several hours without success (still trying while writing this post).
The one thing I haven't tried is using the 667 memory, I read that it might help. But even if 667 memory will help, does it solve the problem once and for all, or it's possible that the problem will reoccur later (note that my mainboard worked fine for 4 months)?
Also, do you have any other suggestions?
Thanks for help.

Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 14-March-08, 04:44:40
Try to boot your system with only one stick of RAM installed in Slot 1 (test both stick seperately).
Tried this today, though not too long (<20 manual reboots).
Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 14-March-08, 04:44:40
Also, clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU before next start-up attempt.
I did something similar today - I removed the battery completely (and rebooted without a battery since then).
Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 14-March-08, 04:44:40
Your current RAM modules could be faulty. Do you have different modules to try (different brand/model, if possible)?
I believe RAM is ok, because when my system worked I ran Orthos a few times for several hours in "blend" mode and no errors occured. Unfortunately I can't easily get 800 or 667 modules.
I'll try again tomorrow, enough for today.

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