P35 neo2 FR overclock and fakeboot

Hi.
Is it normal that at 400x7 on every normal reboot motherboard makes 2 fakeboot?
at 400x7 my sys is stable (~50min of orthos) but if i reboot the pc it makes 2 stop than start normally.
no messages of wrong overclock or similar.
at 333x9 I have no fake boot.there is normal reboot.
my sys is in signature.
ram are 2x2gb pc 6400 5-5-5-15 @default
winxp and bios v1.8
thanks

Quote from: MS6524ETWILLAMETTE on 18-June-08, 17:01:18
@ default settings it doesn't make "component test boot"
@333x9 it doesn't make "component test boot"
@from ~ 340fsb it starts to make "component test boot" every restart/power on.
I've already wrote it above
So, it is therefore not a malfunction with the mainboard, but an overclocking issue.
Two things:-
1) Posted in wrong section of Forum. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=27.0
2) 1 or more of your components are not able to overclock as high as you would like to. After all, it is not just about adjusting the FSB, memory and voltages.....
I think it would be fair to close this thread.

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Quote from: MS6524ETWILLAMETTE on 18-June-08, 17:01:18
@ default settings it doesn't make "component test boot"
@333x9 it doesn't make "component test boot"
@from ~ 340fsb it starts to make "component test boot" every restart/power on.
I've already wrote it above
So, it is therefore not a malfunction with the mainboard, but an overclocking issue.
Two things:-
1) Posted in wrong section of Forum. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=27.0
2) 1 or more of your components are not able to overclock as high as you would like to. After all, it is not just about adjusting the FSB, memory and voltages.....
I think it would be fair to close this thread.

MSI P35 Neo2 FR Overclocking

Hello. I own this MB with a E8200 CPU.
I have managed to overclock the CPU from 2,6 GHZ at 3,6 GHZ with 1,325 V in bios and with the jumpers to 333 mhz.
But, i am experiencing (i think) a FSB wall. From this freqvency, i cannot raise the FSB highter...
I have tried with more than 450 and the CPU isn't stable... Even with 1,45 V...
So, what do you think ? The same CPU was onto another board and that guy managed to OC it to 4,5 GHZ with 1,42V
Is there any way to get the freqvency from 333 higher ?

Remove the OC Jumpers completely to force the FSB-Clock Speed to 400 MHz and clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU before you start the system again. See if the system boots. If it does, try to overclock farther from there.

MSI P35 Neo2-FR and GeForce 8800GT?

Hello,
I am interested in buying MSI P35 Neo2-FR motherboard, and also the latest GeForce 8800GT. But after doing some research I notice that many people have having problems installing their 8800GT card into motherboards with a PCI-E 1.0a slots, and the Neo2-FR has 1.0a slots! However there seem to be exceptions, some motherboards with 1.0a slots work with 8800GT!
This is all very confusing
Can anyone verify that MSI P35 Neo2-FR motherboard and GeForce 8800GT (With PCI-E 2.0!) works in the 1.0a slot??
Thank you.

According to many sources, both personal and documentary, PCI-e 2.0 cards will work in PCI-e 1.X slots(Wikipedia is not exactly what I would consider a super source). Here's a more official source, PCI-SIG.
http://www.pcisig.com/news_room/faqs/pcie2.0_faq/
Quote from: PCI-SIG
Q4: It sounds as if both speed grades are supported in the PCIe 2.0 specification?
A4: The PCIe Base 2.0 specification supports both 2.5GT/s and 5GT/s signaling rates, in order to retain backward compatibility with existing PCIe 1.0 and 1.1 systems. Aside from the faster bit rate, there are a number of improvements in this new specification that allow greater flexibility and reliability in designing PCIe links. For example, the interconnect can be dynamically managed for platform power and performance considerations through software controls. Another significant RAS feature is the inclusion of new controls to allow a PCIe link to continue to function even when some lanes become non-operational.
Q5: Then PCIe 2.0 must be backward compatible with PCIe 1.1 and 1.0?
A5: Yes. The PCIe Base 2.0 specification supports both the 2.5GT/s and 5GT/s signaling technologies. A device designed to the PCIe Base 2.0 specification may support 2.5GT/s, 5GT/s or both. However, a device designed to operate specifically at 5GT/s must also support 2.5GT/s signaling. The PCIe Base specification covers chip-to-chip topologies on the system board. For I/O extensibility across PCIe connectors, the Card Electromechanical (CEM) and ExpressModule™ specifications will also need to be updated, but this work will not impact mechanical compatibility of the slots, cards or modules. Currently, the PCI-SIG is defining the PCIe CEM 2.0 specification which has been released to members for review at v0.5. There are currently no plans to adapt the PCIe Mini CEM specification for the faster bit rate as the market need has not yet materialized.
Quote from: >>About PCI-SIG<<
Formed in 1992, PCI-SIG (originally formed as the Peripheral Component Interconnect Special Interest Group) is the industry organization chartered with the development and management of the PCI bus specification, the industry standard for a high-performance I/O interconnect to transfer data between a CPU and its peripherals. As part of that charter, the organization aims to do the following:
Support new requirements
Preserve backward compatibility for all PCI revisions
Maintain the specification as an easy-to-implement, stable technology
Contribute to the technical longevity of PCI
Support the establishment of PCI as an industry-wide standard

Msi p35 neo2 fr motherboard - system freezes

Hello , I just bought a Msi p35 neo2 fr motherboard and I have this problem . My system randomly freezes ,no errors ,no blue
screens and I have to restart it . I tried each module of ram separately and I got the same problem .
The video card worked fine on my old system and I don`t think this could be . Also the standby led (led 3 ) is always on and red
Maybe I messed up the " wire up " . I could use some tips about how to properly wire up and which settings should be done in BIos for my configuration ?
Msi p35 neo2 fr
PSU Sirtec HPC-430-P12S V2.2
2x1 gb Geil pc6400 800 mhz
video geforce 6200 128 mb
hdd sata 120 gb

from the User Manual:
Quote
Spread Spectrum
When the motherboard’s clock generator pulses, the extreme values (spikes) of the
pulses creates EMI (Electromagnetic Interference). The Spread Spectrum function
reduces the EMI generated by modulating the pulses so that the spikes of the pulses
are reduced to flatter curves. If you do not have any EMI problem, leave the setting at
[Disabled] for optimal system stability and performance. But if you are plagued by EMI,
select the desired range for EMI reduction. Remember to disable Spread Spectrum
function if you are overclocking, because even a slight jitter can introduce a temporary
boost in clock speed which may just cause your overclocked processor to lock
up."

Have MSI P35 Neo2-FR mobo, want 8GB RAM (4x2GB), anybody knows compatible ram?

I have MSI P35 Neo2-FR motherboard and want to buy 8GB ram, preferably 4x2GB(2x2GB + 2x2GB). Anybody has such a setup and can recomend some RAM?
I dont want to buy some random ram, because the motherboards are very picky when youn install the maximum supported ram.

Crucial tend to have quite compatible RAM across boards. On their site you can enter your motherboard model to find the RAM that is compatible. A gave it a run and the following is compatible:
Part #: CT2KIT25664AA667 • DDR2 PC2-5300 • CL=5 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-667 • 1.8V • 256Meg x 64
Part #: CT2KIT25664AA800 • DDR2 PC2-6400 • CL=6 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 1.8V • 256Meg x 64
Part #: CT2KIT25664AA1067 • DDR2 PC2-8500 • CL=7 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-1066 • 1.8V • 256Meg x 64
Part #: BL2KIT25664AA80A • DDR2 PC2-6400 • 4-4-4-12 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 2.0V • 256Meg x 64
Part #: BL2KIT25664AL80A • DDR2 PC2-6400 • 4-4-4-12 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 2.0V • 256Meg x 64
Part #: BL2KIT25664AR80A • DDR2 PC2-6400 • 4-4-4-12 • Unbuffered • NON-ECC • DDR2-800 • 2.0V • 256Meg x 64
The above are all 4GB kits so obviously you'd need to buy two packs to get the 8GB.
http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=P35%20Neo2-FR/FIR
You do need a 64-bit OS to access the full 4GB or 8GB so also bear that in mind.

MSI P35 Neo2-FR do i need JPWR1 Connected for 2 x ATI Radeon 3850 256mb cards ?

hello,
Ive recently Brought a MSI P35 Neo2-FR motherboard and been running in single Sapphire 3850 256mb so decided to install my second Sapphire 3850 256mb.
PSU Ive got is a Hyper Type M 580watt but at moment Ive used all connections 4 pin molex connections and 2 to power second sapphire 3850MB card waiting for reply from hyper about what connection i can put the extender on safely coming off 1 that's used.
Its running Stable at moment without the JPWR1 connected just wondering if its for high end cards like the 2900XT that use's a lot more power then the 3850 and 3870's
Scores I'm getting so far are with a Intel Core 2 duo E8200
Single card - 3DMark 2006 - 9436 3DMarks
Crossfire enabled - 3DMark 2006 - 12356 3DMarks
Are these scores about right too ?

Quote from: Del UK on 17-February-08, 04:42:47
Which PSU, do you use Kimpsu?
Would have a guess it's dual +12V rail......
Antec or Seasonic.......
My current PSU is an Antec NeoHE 550W (though I've had many others too, like Zalman, Seasonic and Enermax), so in theory it has three 12V rails, 18A each. Well, of course it cannot feed 18A on each rail simultaneously, but still considering that's the limit, the limit should not be a bottle-neck. Luckily they are devided logically enough, one rail for the directly attached cables (which is the motherboard really) and two for the five detachable cables. And the two rails are logically divided, so putting my PCI-e cables at both ends I get pretty decent amps for two GFX cards (one rail for each) and the motherboard. The rest (HDDs, optical drives) are then attached to cables connected next to those cables, so in fact HDDs are on one rail together with one GFX card, and optical drives (and my fan controller) is on another rail with the other GFX card. Thus I get pretty even distribution between rails (lucky me).
It was one of the nicest quiet PSUs at the time of purchase. If I were to buy a PSU now I would probably get a Corsair, probably HX520 or HX620, but they have multiple 12V rails... VX series is fine too, only that there are no detachable cables, so although it is an option, I really need to think if I wan't a PSU that only has fixed cables...
Having multiple rails suck a bit (although on most PSUs they are not really separate rails, but still current limited), but luckily single rail PSUs are coming back after a couple of years of "multi rail fashion".
And yeah, PSUs made by Seasonic are pretty popular these days, like the Antec NeoHE I have, Corsair HX series, VX450 and so on.
PS. Good guess, though guessing Antec or Seasonic covers pretty much of the PSUs out there that are of a "quality" brand, at least if Seasonic covers the PSUs made by Seasonic for other companies like Corsair. And I don't mean other suck, just judging by how large % of all quality PSUs are Antec. And yes, there are a few models from Antec that really suck and have high failure rates, and cannot be called quality (like the CWT manufactured Smartpowers and the older Truepowers, also by CWT). Judging by just the company that puts the stickers on the case is not always wise, especially with Antec...
PPS. Judging from your signature, you have an Enermax and a Corsair VX550 (which is manufactured by CWT I believe). How do you like your Corsair? Is it quiet? I've been considering it as an option to replace my Antec (I'd like to have a single 12V rail). Also the TX-series is an option.

P35 Neo2/FR and Nostromo n52

I recently built a new system (x-mas present to myself)...
P35 Neo2 / FR
core2 duo E6850
corsair xms2 2gig (twin2x2048-6400c4)
western digital caviar HD 250gig
lite on DVD burner
XFX 8800gt
XP pro with SP2C OEM
and I stuck it all in a coolermaster CM690 with extreme power duo 650W PS. I'm reusing my current input devices and monitor. I am not overclocking.
Everything works fine except for my Nostromo n52. I can install the latest nostromo drivers/software (version 3.2.4) and device manager shows everything installed and working, but as soon as I plug the N52 in any usb port I instantly get a blue screen BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER crash. One time I got DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL. I also tried using the older drivers that origionally came with the install CD with the same BUGCODE result. I tried reinstalling XP and chose the repair option thinking that might help but no luck. I downloaded/installed the latest drivers for the mobo from MSI website. The n52 works fine on the asus A7N8X setup that this computer is replacing so i know its functioning.
I though of trying to flash the BIOS to v1.6 since my mobo has v1.4, but I'm a bit reluctant to risk screwing it up being the bios descriptions of what was changed don't appear as though it would help my problem.
Any one run into a similar problem? I can live without my n52 if I have to, but after several years it feels odd not having it under my left hand. Any help/tips/tricks are welcome.

Here is the new situation which is actually the same old situation. I reformated my hard drive and reinstalled win XP pro (sp2). I then installed motherboard drivers and updated XP from windows update. Then I downloaded and installed the latest audio, ethernet, and INF drivers from the MSI website. I didn't install the raid drivers. I downloaded n52 drivers (3.2.4) from belkin website and installed them. I got the little blue icon installed in my system tray that I can use to open the loadout manager and launch editor for the n52. I then checked device manager for any new entries under HID/keyboard/mouse and there were none. I then plugged my n52 into a USB port and windows started giving me those little popup bubbles near the system tray stating new hardware is found. They pop up and disappear faster then i can write it all down, but the last one to popup was `nostromo n52 HID speed pad 2.0 mouse wheel` and then the system crashed to a blue screen BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER error. I then unplugged the n52 and rebooted. I booted to the desktop with the little blue icon still in the system tray. I plugged the n52 back in and DIDN"T crash. I checked device manager and under mouse I have `HID compliant mouse` listed twice, under keyboard I have `HID keyboard device` listed, and under HID I have `HID compliant game controler`, `nostromo n52 HID speed pad 2.0`, and ` nostromo n52 HID speed pad 2.0 mouse wheel` listed. Nothing was showing as being in conflict. I then loaded the game Lord of the Rings Online and played for 5 minutes with the nostromo seeming to work fine. I then logged out of the game and rebooted the computer. A few seconds after rebooting to the desktop the system crashed to BUGCODE_USB_DRIVER. Now the computer crashes the instant i plug in the n52 or upon reaching the desktop if its already plugged in. At the moment i still have the n52 drivers installed but i have the device unplugged.
Yes Maesus, I have reformated and reinstalled XP twice in the last 2 weeks. The computer is only 2 weeks old
NovJoe, the only other USB devices I have are my mouse and a headset/mic I use for ventrillo. I can plug and unplug either of them into any usb port with no problems.
On a side note I noticed something that seems a bit strange but didn't think much of it. Is it normal for device manager AND My Computer to show floppy disk drive A: even though I have NO FLOPPY INSTALLED? This is the first computer I ever had that didn't have a floppy drive so I never would have noticed this before. Both entries will vanish if I disable floppy in the BIOS.

Overclocking q9300 on MSI P35 Neo2-FR

Hi there,
I'm after a bit of advice on overclocking my processor.
I've got a Msi P35 Neo2-FR motherboard, Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400 XMS2 DHX (4-4-4-12) Memory, a 650w power supply and a Quad core Q9300.
My aim is to overclock the q9300 to 3ghz. Could you please give me info on what settings you'd set the following to.
cpu voltage,
vtt fsb voltage,
nb voltage,
sb I/O power,
sb core power,
Thanks for any help. I'm just worried that I use the wrong setting resulting in a mini nuclear explosion.

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P35 NEO2 FIR failed to boot – massage about overclocking is failed

My Hardware:
- P35 NEO2 FIR
- A-Data DIMM 4096MB DDR II 800MHz Extreme Edition AD2800E002G (2x2GB)
- Intel Core2 Duo E8400 3,00GHz, 6MB Cache, 1333MHz, 775pin
- Western Digital Raptor WD360ADFD - 36GB SATA @ SATA-1
- Fortron Blue Storm 500W (PSU)
- Sapphire ATI Radeon HD 3870, 512 GDDR – no oc
- Bios version: 1.8
- Windows XP Professional SP3
I have problem with booting PC. When I turn on PC, it twice reboot a then it appears message:
„Warning!!! The previous performance of overclocking is failed, and the system is restored to the defaults setting, Press any key exlucde DEL to enter SETUP…“
I have read this forum and found some topics with this same problem. There is often recommended set clocking values of DRAM. I have set DRAM Timing by SPD do disable and set clock for following values:
4-4-4-12 (Auto V) – recommanded by manufacturer (A-Data)
4-4-4-12 (1.9V)
5-5-5-15 (Auto V)
5-5-5-15 (1,85)
5-5-5-15 (2,1V)
5-5-5-18 (Auto V)
5-5-5-18 (1.8V)
5-5-5-18 (1,9V)
This attempts was failed. When I turn off Pc and wait about 20 minutes - PC again twice reboot and then it appears massage about overclocking is failed.
I have tried to Load Optimized Defaults as well as Load Fail Safe Defaults, but the situations is the same.
I have tried to flash bios to the latest version 1.9, but the situations was worse – when turn on Pc, it reboot about 7 – 15 times and then appears again massage about overclocking is failed. So, I downgrade to version 1.8.
Could you give me pls somebody some sugesstions?

Ok, I will do a test and give here results.
Maybe I find a solution of my problem. During testing PC I found out following: when I turn off switch on PSU immediately as soon as Windows shutdown PC (I do it always), so at next time booting, PC twice reboot and then it appears massage about overclocking is failed. But when I wait about 10 seconds after Windows shutdown PC and then turn off switch on PSU, at next time booting, PC once reboot (normal state) and everything is OK.

P35 Neo2-FR and VOIP card questions

Hi,
I'm evaluating buying this motherboard and would like to know a couple of things:
- Do all P35 Neo2-FR include ALC-888T codec instead of ALC-888? If not, how do I find out which ones do and which ones don't? I'm asking this because it clearly says "Optional" in the product web page, but it doesn't specify which ones have the ALC-888T codec
- If I understand correctly the only difference between ALC-888 and ALC-888T is VOIP card support, is this so?
- Has anyone tried using this MB with a VOIP card? How did it go? (Ease of installation, ease of use, sound quality, etc.)
- Are VOIP cards common? I just did a quick search at Newegg and I couldn't find any. Not a single one ???
- I think the P35 Diamond MB comes bundled with a VOIP card. I guess the P 35 Neo2-FR DOESN'T come bundled with one, am I correct?
- If anyone has bought a VOIP card to use with this board, where did you buy it and approximately how much did you pay for it?
Any help GREATLY appreciated

Thanks everyone for your replies.
Quote from: Maesus on 30-November-07, 14:51:39
that's only P35 Platinum, not P35 Neo2-FR :(
city_zen, is VOIP a must-have feature for you?
No, not really a must-have feature, but it would be a very nice thing to have on my board. I'd definitely use it if it was in fact available (i.e. ALC-888T) and I can get a hold of a VOIP card. However, it's looking like that's not very likely to happen ... Oh, well ...
Anyway, this is a very good board even w/o the VOIP feature, so I'm still considering buying it.

Msi p35 neo2 fr with P4 D 915 and Geil ultra ddr2 2Gb 1066Mhz

Hello! I`m new to this forum and just got my new MB p35 neo2 FR and 2 G of ram and i would like to know the best settings for this configuration. I have a pentium D 915, 7300GT sonic 256 ddr3, 2 G ddr2 1066mhz from geil. And PSU from Alied with 400W real power. If someone could guide me to best OC setting?

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MSI P35 Neo2-FR/FIR wont overclock

This might be a simple question but here it is. My new MSI p35 bios v 1.34 wont allow me to overclock my q66oo. I think the problem is windows xp pro 64. I cant install the MSI dual core center or the live monitor. When I am in the bios I canot change these setting inside the cell menu,
cpu fsb frequency
adjust cpu ratio
cpu voltage
memory voltage
vtt fsb voltage
nb voltage
sb i/o power
sb core power
Any ideas?
MSI P35 Neo2-Fr
intel q6600
evea 8800 gt
g. skill 1 gig pc2 6400 2 sticks
corsair hx620w

Keep us updated on your progress.

What is the difference between P35 Platinum and P35 Neo2 FIR?

What is the difference between P35 Platinum and P35 Neo2 FIR?
P35 Platinum
P35 Neo2 FIR
BIOS is identical?

The P35 Neo2 is FIR is actually listed as P35 Neo2 FR/FIR. It is what you could call a "modular mainboard". Even if it has the same PCB as the P35 Platinum mainboard, it doesn't necessarily mean, that it will always come with the same features.
If you look at the mainboard manual you will find that the ICH9R-Chipset and Firewire are mentioned as optional features. That means you will be able to purchase versions of this mainboard that will only have an ICH9 chipset and therefore won't support RAID or that don't have a firewire interface.
The abbreviation F,I and R have the following meaning:
F...Gigabit LAN
I... Firewire
R...RAID
In case you decide to buy the P35 Neo2 mainboard, pay close attention to the feature list. Even if the board is listed as FIR by a specific dealer, make sure it really comes with firewire and an ICH9R-chipset. If someone decides to sell the board with the full name that appears on the MSI Support Site (FR/FIR) he might be actually trying to sell a P35 Neo2-F trying to get a better price.

Problems with Pioneer burners and AHCI mode on P35 Neo2-FR (ICH9R)

Well, I did my best to make my two Pioneer SATA DVR-215s work with ICH9R in AHCI mode (changed cables, ports, power supplies, rails, set AHCI SATA ports to none in BIOS, upgraded to latest BIOS and Intel drivers) but nothing seems to solve the issue that burners just do not work properly when Intel controller is in AHCI mode. If ICH9R is set to IDE mode, everything is working properly. If not - burns fail, randomly stop, burners disappear from explorer and device manager with: The device 'PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-215 ATA Device (...) disappeared from the system without first being prepared for removal. and The device, \Device\Ide\IdePort7, did not respond within the timeout period. Now my question is : is this a know issuse with ICH9R - or is this specific to Neo2-F(I)R (guess that it goes for Platinum as they share BIOS) or is it Pioneer fault? Firmware is updated tol atest...
My spec:
Intel Core2Duo 4600
MSI P35 Neo2-FR
4x1 GB DDR2 800 Geil Ultra 4-4-4-12@2V
Chieftec 450W
Seagate 320 GB
XFX 8600GT
edit: forgot - Vista Ultimate SP1 32bit
etc...
Someone?

Yes, the ICHxR series have had issues in the past. I thought they fixed that on the newer series by making ports 5-6 non-AHCI. I have had issues with it booting for installing windows, but once in windows, it seems to work fine for me. Luck me though, my board has the JMicron controller ports (usually blue or an off color). if you have an off color SATA port, that port will be for optical drives or other devices.
also, I see you only list one HD. are you runing RAID? if not I don't think you gain any advantage with AHCI. AHCI is more for RAID setups and you'll need drivers to run them. regular IDE mode needs no extra drivers and usually perform better as the AHCI driver overhead usually puts an extra load on the drives and slows it back down.
If you're unsure, re-check the owners manual. it often covers odd setup configurations in there.
-=Mark=-

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