P4 - 850e max (6545) overclocking

Hi all,
I am new to the forum. I am overclocking a msi 850e max (6545) with P4 processor @ 2.4 G. I have successfully managed to run it at 168MHz FSB (=>3.024 GHz), rock solid in all testing . I have 512 MB Infineon 600 MHz RDRAM, which I throtled back to 400 MHz in Bios, resulting in an op. speed of 504 MHz. I have adjusted Vcore to 1,55 V. I have adjusted the memory voltage with the jumper to 1,68 V. The system is rocksolid in all testing and has been going like this for more than a month, idle cpu temp is 39 C, and full load with prime 95 is 53 C. I am using stock cooling, but I did remove the heatsink (I was having 60 C and upwards under load), and reseated it with a resulting temp-drop.
I am experiencing some cold boot problems. I have spend days to find solutions for them, but with only some success up to now . I am inclined towards concluding that the cause is the HD or the ram. I get " Windows could not load because the following file is corrupt or missing : NTFS.sys, or isapnp.sys. These files are present, and at the following boot load without problem. So disk or ram what do you guys think?
I would also like to now if anybody has some more OC friendly bios for this board? any beta versions or modded versions???? It's so strange that MSI makes it possible to set the FSB and Vcore, but you cannot set any diveders for PCI and AGP.
I don't even now if perhaps the divider kicks in automatically once you get to 166 FSB instead of the standard 133?? Does anybody know?
Your help is highly appreciated!!!:biggthumbsup:
Ciao!

I don't have any trouble with the Radeon card, the display is perfect in testing and does everything It is asked for, even at FSB 177, when other items are crapping out on me.
My cold boot problems are not that bad btw, it does post most of the time, and rather hangs after loading the kernel driver. I found that instead of just trying a number of times till it boots, I press delete and enter BIOS setup, exit without save, and the PC boots OK!!
Are Rimms still sold & used? Does anybody know what make of new mobos with 850 chipset support Rimm modules right now?
Does anybody have experience in OCing the MSI 850E MAX board?

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850E Max VCORE

Ok I am turned my VCORE up .25mv to get my processor speed up reliably and now if I turn my computer off I reboot and everything appears to work correctly except the screen doesnt show anything and the keyboard never gets any power. I then have to manually reset my Power Supply and then reboot. After this things work fine until I turn my system off again. Any ideas?

Hi there!
Is this something you are still interested in? I am OC'ing an 850e max with a p4 2,4 GHz processor. I run it at 3 GHz (FSB @ 168). I have some cold boot problems, and I am worried about my PCI /AGP speeds, although the only problem I have encounterede with that is when burning CD's with Nero. I have to throttle back to get Nero to work.
The cold boots are another story. I get some instances of no posting (same as what you describe).
It would be interesting to exchange some experiences, as this is not the best board for overclocking, but being stuck with it, we may as well make the best of it??!!!
Ciao!

MSI 850e Max - memory test show 480mb?

Greetings all - Forum newbie here
My question is as follows: I have a MSI 6545 850e Max mobo with 2 Kingston 256mb Rambus modules. On boot, memory test shows approx 480mb system memory, not 512. I'm curious as to where the other 32 megs went? I ran 2 SyncMax 128 meg modules with correct memory count....
System specs:
850e Max mobo
Intel 1.6 P4
512mb (2x256) Kingston ECC Rambus
MSI Geforce4 ti 4600 128 mb video
40 gig WD hdd

Well I did some checking and I have one Toshiba Rimm and one Kingston Rimm. Funny thing though - MSInfo ( just how reliable I'm not sure) says I have 512 megs physical ram, DX Diag shows 480 etc. Is there any memory checking program can provide undesputed results? Thanks for all the help so far guys :-)

850e MAX withdrawn

Has the 850e MAX been withdrawn?
There was info. on MSI's site, now it's gone and can't find it anywhere.

Lighten-up :D
Yes, it's reposted and there's even a BIOS update for it.
I've been interested for two months now, but still can't find anyone selling them in the states. ?(
Anyone else see them?
I think they're released in the UK - anyone have one - how is it?
:D

850e Max-ABL / 648 Max-BL info required

does anyone have any specs/info on the the new 850e Max-ABL and 648 Max-BL mobo's ???
nothing on the MSI site as yet....

Spent some days trying to solve simmilar problems.
Suddenly the computer hangs, or restarts, in two minutes or in few hours, randomely.
(P4 2,4 533, Nvidia5200/128, PQI512/400,WD40JB, WINXPSP2 new installation)
The most strange thing is that with open case it works much better, crashes maybe twice a week.
Thought that inprooving cooling will solve the problem, I put two 8cm coolers, even Sandra and MBMonitor
shows CPU temperature normal, never above 45C. And again, if open side case, it works(better), when closed
it hangs !!!???
3DMark03, hanged system almost iimediately, so I changed the VGA with another,
and now it hangs on the end of tests.
Tried to change processor (couldn't find the same) with Celeron D 2,4 - It could not start at all, later I found
MB can't support necessary voltages for this CPU. (????!!!??)
Finaly tried to change RAM with two PQI256/400. System could not even start BIOS.
After crearin BIOS it starts, showing 512 MB, CL2. Next boot is impossible. Have to clear BIOS again, and
only first boot is OK. Adding one or two 256MB pieces is impossible, too! It doesn't like it!
Updating BIOS to V 1.5 changed NOTHING !
On the end, I spent a lot of time to find this (very special) model of MB and i could not.
It is 648 MAX, MS-6585 F1 VER 20A
Any ideas ???

850E MAX - Hyperthreading and 1066 RDRAM

I just bought an 850E MAX to replace my Dell 8200/intel mobo. I know the 850E chipset supports P4 Hyperthreading, but don't see anything in the manual that refers to enabling it. Also, I read some people have had problems getting 1066RDRAM to work on this MoBo. Has anyone had success using either with this board??
This is my first MSI board and am anxious to see it perform.

No one on the forum answered either of my questions, so I went to MSI Taiwan.
The board WILL support Hyperthreading with a bios upgrade that is not posted on the website. i will not support anything faster than 800RDRAM.

Unboxing MSI Z97 Mpower Max AC Overclocking Motherboard

Intel Z97 chipset based motherboards is already out and I’m glad that Intel decided it to make the CPU socket the same LGA 1150 as before. Backward compatibility for the current CPUs and at the same time will have support for the upcoming Haswell Refresh and Broadwell (14nm) processors. More importantly, the chipset has three new features and these are:
•SATA Express – PCIe M.2 support. Can deliver data speeds up to 10Gb/s
•Boot Guard – serves as a shield against low-level malware attacks using Intel device protection system
•Upgraded Intel Smart Response and Raid start technologies. Now with Dynamic Cache Sharing
Few? yes, but don’t get disappointed about it yet, as I heard that the Z97 will be good at high memory frequencies and has better CPU overclocking.
That’s it for the review and thank you … just kidding hehehe. The main gist of this short review is on MSI’s Z97 MPower Max AC and it’s such a good looking motherboard. It has new features, heat sink design and OC essential tools which will be further discussed later on. Before that, let us take a look at the packaging first.
Black and Yellow ~~black and yellow…box is same as the Z87 Mpower Max before except for the OC Series logo design.
Flipping the front cover will give you some short info on Military Class 4 components (Hi-c Cap, Dark Cap, SFC, OC PCB), Guard-Pro (Circuit Protection, Humidity Protection, High Temperature Protection, ESD Protection, EMI Protection & Eco Power), OC Essentials (tools for overclocking), Enhanced Thermal Solution, Enhanced Power and Enhanced BIOS. Then to your right is a clear plastic window which will give you a sneak peek on the actual unit. Drools…
The Z97 Mpower Max AC is OC certified as it passed the Prime95 24-hour burn-in stress test with a liquid-cooled overclocked CPU. This is to ensure the board’s overclocking stability.
I/O overview is also shown here and Intel’s Wi-Fi AC module.
Specifications:
•CPU
Supports 4th and 5th Generation Intel® Core™ Processors, and Intel® Pentium® and Celeron® Processors for Socket LGA1150
•Chipset
Intel® Z97 Express Chipset
•Memory
4x DDR3 DIMMs 1066/1333/1600/1866*/2000*/2133*/2200*/2400*/2600*/2666*/2800*/3000*/3100*/3200*/3300*(OC) DRAM, 32GB Max
•LAN
Intel I218-V Gigabit LAN controller
•Audio
Realtek® ALC1150 Codec
•Video
3 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slots (support x16, x8/x8, x8/x4/x4 modes)
•Peripheral Interfaces
6x SATA 6Gb/s ports from Z97 with RAID Support
2x SATA 6Gb/s ports from ASMedia ASM1061
6x USB 2.0 ports (2 Rear / 4 Front)
12x USB 3.0 ports (8 Rear / 4 Front)
The package is full of bundles and some new stuff included
•Z97 Mpower Max AC Overview Map
•Z97 MPower Max User Guide
•Software & Application User Guide
•Overclocking Guide
•Quick Installation Guide
•OC Door Message Hanger
•SATA Cable Label Stickers
•MSI OC Badge
Closer look on MSI’s new OC case badge
•WiFi and Bluetooth Antenna
•Intel Wifi/Bluetooth Module
•MSI SLI Bridge
•IO Backplate
•M-Connector for Easy Header Installation
•V-Check Points Cable
MSI so extravagant with the bundles!!! Keep ‘em coming
•6x SATA 6GB/s Data Cables
•E-SATA PCI Expansion Bracket
What you will notice right away is the new water cooling heat sink for the VRM area. Enthusiasts will like this very much as they don’t have to worry on buying water blocks for this section. But even on stock, the heat sink is efficient to cool down the VRM chips. It is composed of heat pipe and ceramic materials.
PCB is matte black and is using dark solid capacitors. Layout is clean and organized especially on the area of the multi graphics card slots. OC button tools are placed on the upper right area of the board for easy access. The 8pin and 4pin power connectors on the upper left area are used to supply power to the CPU and it also helps achieve higher overclock potential and stability to the processor.
MSI also included an integrated Clock Generator chip called OC Engine (located below the CPU socket). Having this will support more BCLK adjustments from 100 / 125 / 167 MHz straps. The more flexible the strap is, the more doors for maximum OC potential.
12Phase DigitAll power design. Powerful enough to break OC world records and dominate benchmarks.
You also have the Military Class 4 components SFC chokes and Hi-c caps surrounding the CPU socket.
On the area in between the two heat sinks connected by a heat pipe is an additional 6pin power. It provides more juice and stability in multi-graphics card configuration.
The first two buttons on the left are the Base Clock Control Buttons. These buttons are used to increase or decrease the base clock frequency in real-time. At the bottom, you have the Discharge button and it allows you to fully discharge the motherboard and even removes information from the Z97 PCH. Next you have the Reset and Power buttons and lastly the most valuable button of them all – OC Genie for auto overclock.
To the farthest right is a switch. This is the OC Genie Mode switch which provides two overclocking modes. First mode is the Gear 1, the default automatic overclocking setting while Gear 2 is a higher auto overclock tweak than Gear 1. This goes hand in hand with the OC Genie Button.
V-Check Points is now version 2 with 2 extra ground connectors, allowing overclockers to use 3 multi-meters at the same time. You can check the VCCIN, DDR, Core,IGP, Ring Bus and System Agent voltage on the fly.
Audio Boost is also been upgraded. It has Dual Amps now and is using better Nippon Chemi-con filtering capacitors.
Here comes one of the major features of having Z97 chipset based motherboard, SATA Express. M.2 slot transfers data through a PCI Express 2.0 x2 interface which can reach up to 10 Gb/s speed. That is 67% much faster than your regular SATA 3 solutions.
Two more switches are to be found at the bottom of the board. First one is the Multi-BIOS Switch. This model has two built-in BIOS ROMs labeled as A and B (Default is BIOS ROM A). If one crashed, you can shift to the other for booting or perhaps use the other one for test purpose of new BIOS available in the net. You can also use this feature to fix corrupted BIOS. Next switch is the Slow Mode Booting and mostly used during LN2 or extreme overclocking situations. What it does is it will temporary decrease the CPU Ratio to 8x and after successfully booting to Windows you can flick the switch back again to apply your high overclock frequency settings.
Done with the switches and now for the small black button called Go2BIOS. Pressing this button before turning on your computer or right after a system restart, will go straight to your board’s BIOS.
The ever reliable Debug Code LED indicator is available in this model. This can be used greatly for troubleshooting boot up and hardware problems. Check out the User Manual Guide for the corresponding POST Code errors.
SATA ports 8 and 7 on the left are controlled by ASMedia ASM1061 while the rest are from the Intel Z97 chipset. There also 2x USB 3.0 internal headers available and also controlled by Intel Z97.
•PS2 Combo Port
•2x USB 2.0
•Empty space for Intel’s WIFI/Bluetooth AC Module
•6x USB 3.0 by ASMedia ASM1074
•1x Intel I218-V Gigabit LAN Controller
•1x S/PDIF Audio Output by Realtek ALC1150
•1x HDMI Port
•1x DisplayPort
•2x USB 3.0 by ASMedia ASM1042
•6x Analog Gold Plated Audio Ports by Realtek ALC1150
This is it for now and I don’t still have the right parts to run the motherboard to its max potential. I will update you guys as soon as I get my hands on the stuff I needed. Benchmarks and overclocking results will be made.
Long live MSI OC Series!!!

It is interesting MSI chose not to incorporate dedicated SATA Express port(s). Some manufacturers even incorporated that on it's Z87's.
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Few? yes, but don’t get disappointed about it yet, as I heard that the Z97 will be good at high memory frequencies and has better CPU overclocking.
If Intel didn't increase the useable RAM bandwidth with Devil's Canyon, those higher RAM frequencies are going to do nothing! With a VRM still in the CPU, even with the improved TIM, it remains to be seen how much of a better OC'er Devil's Canyon will be on conventional cooling solutions. Anything above Z97 Gaming 7 or 9 is kind of overkill for an average non exotic cooling pc user. If anything like the Z87 Power Max I got to work with, most of those OC settings on these class boards was a total waste. Z97 better OC'er for normal users? Time will tell.

845PE Max Series overclocking question.

I have the 845PE Max Series motherboard with 1.7 Pentium 4 CPU and 1 gig of ram, 128mb AGP card.
Anyways, I would like to try overclocking it, I never really did it, I understand the basic foundemantals of it,
but what would be a good safe limit to raise the clock speed from 1.7 to 2 ?
will I see any significant increases ?
Any recommendations?

The biggest thing to keep in mind when overclocking is not all hardware is the same. Somebody with your same processor may be able to overclock it to 2.7GHz where you might be limited to 2.2GHz. And when you are overclocking keep in mind it will overclock your memory too, so if it is not high quality your overclock may not be stable. With overclocking the only science is starting small, testing, then increase. Make sure you keep an eye on your temps. I would not want to see a processor go above 55C when under load.
Good Luck
Jeremy

Does msi 850e max can work with 533 mhz Prescott cpu?

Hi
I am using msi 850emax mainboard with 533 mhz p4 2.8 cpu without ht.
I want to buy a 533 mhz Prescott cpu with ht.
Can it work on msi 850 e max mainboard?
Thanks
Magicboy

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_cpu_support_detail.php?UID=345
nope

850E Max & ATA 100 DVD

I recently swapped my motherboard from the 850 Pro to the 850E, on the old board I had a Asus x16 DVD running at ata 100, now on the new board the DVD is running at ata 33, really wierd ??
Any idea's ??

Is it possible you placed the CDRW and the DVD on the same IDE cable? If you have 2 drives of different ATA speeds on the same IDE port, you'll only get the lower of the two on BOTH drives.
It's possible you may have bus mastering disabled in the BIOS or may not have the bus mastering drivers installed in Windows.

845G max-L overclocking

Heya all
Here is my issue.
I have an 845G Max-L, a p4 1.8a SL63X, and 512 MB of PC2700. The damn board won't let me get the chip to 533fsb. I have tried a buddies 1.6a that will do it on his machine and it still freezes on Windows loadup on mine. My chip however works fine in his comp at 533.
Does anyone have any tips on getting this board to O/C chips to 533fsb? Is it even possible?
Thanks all,
Kyle.

Hey
the RAM is good Samsung stuff, and I had tried all the voltages that the board allows. None of them let me boot the 1.8a @ 2.4Ghz. The chip workes fine on other motherboards, but not this one!! =)
I am really stumped. I think I may just take the board back!
Kyle

Mpower max z87 Overclocking

hi all,
i'm new in the field of overclocking and have just received my new rig, currently i'm wondering a couple of things:
-firstly im currently at a multiplier of 43x and a core voltage of 1.2 the only other thing i changed was that i turned off the xmp option
can someone give me an idea of a next step? my highest temperature during a AIDA64 test is 77 degrees celsius.
-secondly, can someone give me an opinion on the quality of my chip? i'm reading all kinds of articles on good chips that need low voltages to run high clocks and i'm wondering if someone can give me an estimate on where i stand in the food chain?
thanks in advance!

Here you go. New UEFI/BIOS version seems to have improved what can be achieved on pure Auto settings. It was stable all the way to 45X on Auto, but no significant performance benefit was noted.
Next 2 images, idle, and the second one is the full load test running IBT.
Next is IBT at 43X and then 47X. Note the slight decline in performance.
43X and 2666 is definately ideal with this particular setup. During the IBT test, one core did go a bit past the recommended 72C maximum, but for regular real world stress, it's doubtful it will ever get that hot under sustained load. All of those fancy settings this particular board has with this CPU exemplar in my opinion, for the most part, are pretty much useless using conventional cooling solutions.
Added: Just played some AC III and Metro 2034 with no problems. All seems very stable. Too bad I can't keep it.

MPOWER MAX Z87 OVERCLOCK I7 4770K

ESTA O OVER QUE ATINGI NESSE CPU QUERO SABER SE O OVER ESTA BOM, OU SE POSSO MELHORAR AINDA MAIS

Quote from: HUDGTX on 11-November-13, 21:39:08
ESTA O OVER QUE ATINGI NESSE CPU QUERO SABER SE O OVER ESTA BOM, OU SE POSSO MELHORAR AINDA MAIS
"The THIS OVER TO ACHIEVE THIS CPU WANT TO KNOW IF THIS OVER GOOD OR IF I CAN IMPROVE EVEN MORE"

MOVED: MSI 850E Max Pentium 4 Motherboard FSB memory

This topic has been moved to Intel P4/Celeron boards.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=130931.0

That stuff sure is expensive.
http://www.memoryc.com/computermemory/rambusrdram/512mbelpidaeccpc800.html
Delivery cost page from there (to Norway): http://www.memoryc.com/pages/shipping_detail.html?countryc=NO

850E Max and 1066 RIMMs

I know this was posted once before but the thread hit a dead end. Has anyone figured out what the heck you're supposed to do about the motherboard not reading the 1066 modules? Yes, I've switched them around in different configurations, but to no avail. I have no other way of getting this thing to work and I just spent 1300 dollars in computer parts to get a computer working so I could work! I need to know if there is a fix, and if there is what do I do? If not, I need to return this MSI board and go with someone who actually has a working 1066 board. This is unreal. Thanks for any responses.
Feel free to email me at [email protected] or even to call me at 706-657-3959. Call collect if you have to. I don't care...I'm just in a real bind right now. ;(

PSU is a Thermaltake 420 Watt...VGA is a Chaintech GeForce 440 MX...
I've tried putting the memory in the different slots to no avail. Even with all the cards and cables disconnected it won't get past the memory.
Thanks for your continued help. )

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