P4 Northwood 533FSB on an MSI 845 Ultra ARU

Just got a simple question here. Have not been able to find an answer anywhere, so thought I would ask. Does the MSI 845 Ultra-ARU support the P4 Socket 478 533 FSB proc? I was running a 478 1.6 @ 2.1 on it, and wanted to get the pops a 2.4 to run on it, so he would not have to overclock. Game him the board, and Alpha, vid., and memory, and wanted to polish it off with this proc to get him off of the old 700 Athlon (just isn't right to keep yo dad @ 700 when you have 2 @ 2.1 :D ).
TIA for the input.
Darrell

Doesn't support 533mhz FSB cpus. Only 400 but up to 2.6ghz. You can get your Pops a 2.4ghz 400mhz fsb cpu.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/cpu_support/cpu/spt_cpu_detail.php?UID=34%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&NAME=MS-6398

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