[P43 Neo-F] No Pci-e Frequency option in BIOS??

Hi..
I am using a MSI P43 Neo F Board(MS-7519).
Now I am facing the FSB Wall problem of this board and the only solution I have found is to increase Pci-e frequency to 104 as suggested by the main topic about this problem on this forum. But the problem is that there is no pci-e frequency option in my bios. Bios is latest as confirmed by live update software but there is no such option.
Can anyone help me on that?why is that I have the same model but not the same options??

Quote from: Adiel on 13-April-11, 04:02:00
You have not used P43 Neo F I suppose, that mobo does not go above 400 or 415 fsb, search the internet, its a common problem, and the only solution is the one i posted. But why is that the bios of my mobo does not have this option??
Its most likely because the parts are not the same and even if they were they wouldn't work the same.
Like he mentioned already, it works for some and not for others. Its a fickle thing, it isn't a matter of "oh hes better so it works" its more like "his CPU's die isn't as f-ed up as yours is". Something along those lines.

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