P45 Platinum Raid 1 issues Intel vs Jmicron ?

I have been experiencing intermittent problems with Raid 1 installation using the Intel Controller.
Several problems were definitely due to HD errors and I have had two failed drives swapped out over the last six months.
However after the last drive replacement things seemed to be stable for several weeks before problems started to emerge again.
The interesting thing is that the problem had switched to the oldest drive in the system which until now had been completely stable and I'm now wondering if it’s an Intel Raid related issue rather than the drives.
What’s Happening:
I boot and both drives are recognised by the Bios.
Both drives show up in the Raid Bios screen
Once booted into windows one of several things happen.
1) Once drive is not visible and is reported in the Intel Raid Console as missing. Reboot and its back in a rebuild state
2) Windows boot proceeds normally and then one of the drives (always the same one) will go off line and be reported as missing. reboot and again the drive will be visible in the Bios and Raid Bios screen and be marked for rebuild
Once the drive has rebuilt it may be stable for hours or days or disappear again during the rebuild.
Drives are Maxtor STM31000340AS and a Seagate ST41000340AS, so essentially the same drive and both running the latest firmware updates.
Interestingly the port numbers reported in the Intel Raid Console for the drives is different from that reported in the Bios discovery and the Raid BIOS.
It is now always the Maxtor drive that goes offline where as previously it was always the Seagate. I’m now starting to wonder if its actualy a raid Bios/Console issue rather than the drives.
Has anyone else experienced similar problem in a Raid 1 configuration ?
I had been thinking about moving both drives over onto the JMicron Raid Controller but was uncertain if this can be done as a straight swap or if it’s likely screw up any data on the disks.
Again any experiences of advice would be welcome.

Thanks for the replies guys.
I have tried changing the SATA cables for the new types with the locking clips and ensured that there are no major bends in them, with no improvement.
I have also tested the integrity of the drives with Seagate’s test software using both the short and long tests, which show no problems when connected as IDE or ACHI (won’t allow me to test in RAID mode).
No problems reported but the drive still goes offline when reconnected in RAID mode. Which is partly what has made me wonder if there is a problem with the RAID BIOS, Drivers of Console Software.
Coupled with the fact that the drive which was being affected by the disconnections suddenly changed to one which had been stable for months and the drive that had previously caused problems has now become stable.
I’m also running the latest drivers and Intel Matrix Storage Console 8.8.0.1009, although I’m a little concerned by the number of outstanding bugs that are listed in the release notes, just indicates a poor product with almost 40 unresolved issues.
Currently I’m using standard RAID settings in the BIOS for the Intel ports with the Jmicron controller set to IDE but nothing connected.
The drives are essentially identical apart from the model number strings and the labels on the drives, both are at the equivalent level of drive firmware. Originally they were two Maxtor drives one of which failed with a hardware problem and was replaced by the Seagate equivalent, which is the same hardware and software with just the manufacturers branding being different.
Over the weekend I isolated the drive that was having problems, reformatted completely, performed a BIOS reset, re-added and rebuilt the drive into the RAID array.
So far its only been two days but things have been stable so far, although I have had periods of weeks without a problem before it reappears.
Sliksta, when you suggested updating the BIOS were you suggesting one of the Beta BIOS’s ? As I’m currently on the latest official release .

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So okay, heres whats bugging me in regards to my memory sticks. Your throwing out numbers like PC2-6400 but on the stick it says PC2-8500?
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A given board/BIOS is not able to read the sticker that is glued to your modules but only the SPD Profiles that are pre-programmed into the SPD Chips of your sticks. If you check those SPD-Tables with Everest, Memset 3.5 or Memory-Z (in BIOS) you can see for yourself that the "fastest" Profile is a JEDEC-Standard DDR2-800-Profile [CL5 @1.8V]. There is no profile for DDR2-1066 clock speed. That is why whatever Board or BIOS you try, your modules will be detected and handled as DDR2-800 (PC2-6400) modules. It is evident, that there is no issue here and there is no point in discussing this any further.
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Size 2048Mb Correction None
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(Sorry for rusty english...)

Yup, the thread was about getting all 4 memory modules up to 1066.
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The 8500 modules are on hold until a new BIOS is aviable, I don't wanne waste anymore time trying to make them work for now.
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RuneMT
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