P4M890M-L CPU Up-Grade Question

I'm currently running a P4M890M-L board with a Pentium D 805.
The boot up screen is showing the Bios version as A7255 VMS V1.0.
Will I need to flash the Bios to use an E2180?
Or is this a case of just putting the new one in and see if it works?
Thanks.

Look here:
http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=prodcpu2&prod_no=1082&maincat_no=1&orderby=cpu_name%20ASC#menu

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Hi,
Just got a new 2011 iMac 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 21 inch. First mac and loving it so far! I can hear the fans just slightly at idle in a quiet room and checked on this forum to see what is the normal idle fan speed.
Most of the results come back with the CPU fan running at around 938 rpm. mine is constant at 1199 rpm. A few others have this speed too, but he majority are around the 938 rpm level (some much higher). My temps also seem lower than most at idle too (due to the higher fan speed i guess).
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Why the difference between machine (shouldn't they be set the same in all machines with the same spec with software)?
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Hi,
i've a two node rac 11.2 on aix.
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Load Profile              Per Second    Per Transaction   Per Exec   Per Call
~~~~~~~~~~~~         ---------------    --------------- ---------- ----------
      DB Time(s):                7.1                0.0       0.00       0.07
       DB CPU(s):                1.0                0.0       0.00       0.01
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Physical writes:              174.2                0.3
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DB CPU                                            7,215          14.1
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resmgr:cpu quantum                  406,418       1,915      5    3.7 Scheduler
buffer busy waits                   192,071         466      2     .9 Concurrenc
gc cr grant 2-way                   253,278         298      1     .6 ClusterHost cpu:
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~~~~~~~~         Load Average
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               14.23      5.11      58.5      18.0       1.9      23.5It shows 23.5% of idle cpu.
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01/14/2013 22:33:54     16     0     6639173     8973     0     0     0     0     0     0     3716     124593     17276     87     13     0     0
01/14/2013 22:33:55     15     0     6639055     9073     0     0     0     0     0     0     3799     122613     17578     89     11     0     0
01/14/2013 22:33:55     14     0     6636873     11234     0     0     0     0     0     0     3144     108492     16358     90     10     0     0There is no idle.
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Edited by: 842366 on 15-gen-2013 7.53

842366 wrote:
i've a two node rac 11.2 on aix.
There are some nightly job that consume high cpu.
Looking awr i see:
Load Profile              Per Second    Per Transaction   Per Exec   Per Call
~~~~~~~~~~~~         ---------------    --------------- ---------- ----------
DB Time(s):                7.1                0.0       0.00       0.07
DB CPU(s):                1.0                0.0       0.00       0.01
Redo size:        1,633,163.0            2,639.6
Logical reads:          112,042.4              181.1
Block changes:           10,777.0               17.4
Physical reads:              286.1                0.5
Physical writes:              174.2                0.3
User calls:              105.3                0.2
Parses:            1,172.9                1.9
Hard parses:               30.2                0.1
W/A MB processed:               11.0                0.0
Logons:                0.8                0.0
Executes:            8,386.1               13.6
Rollbacks:                0.1                0.0
Transactions:              618.7[/code]
Top events:
Avg
wait   % DB
Event                                 Waits     Time(s)   (ms)   time Wait Class
DB CPU                                            7,215          14.1
db file sequential read             882,357       2,914      3    5.7 User I/O
resmgr:cpu quantum                  406,418       1,915      5    3.7 Scheduler
buffer busy waits                   192,071         466      2     .9 Concurrenc
gc cr grant 2-way                   253,278         298      1     .6 Cluster[/code]
Host CPU (CPUs:    6 Cores:    3 Sockets: )
~~~~~~~~         Load Average
Begin       End     %User   %System      %WIO     %Idle
14.23      5.11      58.5      18.0       1.9      23.5[/code]
Is this a standard one-hour report, and does it cross the peak hour of the graph you published, and is it for the same node ?
There are several anomalies here, not the least of which is that your event percentages don't get close to 100%.
To me the thing that really stands out as a possible source of your problems is the 8,386 executions per second - if there has been a recent dramatic change in performance, it may be related to this.
I'd be taking a quick look at the SQL ordered by CPU and SQL ordered by Executions sections of the report for any clues.
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Regards
Jonathan Lewis

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