P4N Diamond and Pentium D problem

Hi,
Have just bought the P4N Diamond motherboard, and a Pentim D 830 processor.
When switching on the status led shows four red lights. According to the manual this means that the processor is defective.
Have taken the processor in and out many times, but no luck.
Any other ideas ? Any assembly errors I could have made ?

IJRC, For your set up do the following:
The best way to get your system up to make sure that you have BIOS version 1.3 and up. Any BIOS version before this will not see the Pentium D. If you dont have this BIOS or are not sure it might be best if you call MSI and have them send you out a BIOS chip with the updated BIOS version on it.
-Make sure that you only install windows with one stick of RAM
-Do not connect any USB devices untill windows is up and running.
-Your MOBO takes alot of power, so make sure that you have a quality PSU as well as it having plenty of amps on the 12v rail. (As per the P4N manual p.10, 450watts and atleast 20amps on the 12v rail is recommended for system staibility.)
-Drivers for me were not that much of a problem except for my monitor, but my GPU sees it for what it is and thats what matters. Ofcourse if you dont have the internet up and running getting drivers might be a problem.
- As long as your follow these steps you should be fine with installing windows 64x. To be safe just download the Marval Lan Eathernet Drivers and burn them to a cd before you start your build. That way you can access the internet to download 64x drivers. For the most part you shouldnt have a problem getting drivers...if you have an hp printer you will have a problem though.
GL and write back if you have problems...i think that i have been through them all with this MOBO and the Pentium D. However with the help from this fourm i think that i have everything under control.

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And CPU draws more power than HDD/CD-ROM.
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And when PSU are blown/dead, usually they brought friends (another component) -in my P3 system, it's my HDD!-
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ensure JAUD1 is configured property:
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ive just built my mum a pc using a msi p4n diamond mainboard which has 2 gig of ddr2 667 mhz memory, just wondering how to go about setting it up to dual channel as its currently showing up in boot post screen as being single channel.. Now correct me if i'm doing wrong but it has 2 green slots and 2 orange slots, should there be 1 stick of ram in green and one stick of ram in the oarnage slot to show dual channel or both sticks as they are situe at present in green slots please..
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It's in the manual, if you don't have one you can download from here:
http://www.msi.com/service/download/manual-4385.html
If both sticks are in green as you say then yes it's single channel. For dual channel you want to leave 1 stick in DIMM1, green slot nearest CPU & move the 2nd stick to the orange DIMM3 slot.
From left to right DIMM1/2-green, DIMM3/4-orange, dual is 1 stick DIMM1 & 1 stick DIMM3 or 1 stick DIMM2 & 1 stick DIMM4 or 4 sticks all four slots filled. Single channel is 2 sticks in green slots or 2 sticks in orange slots or not recommended is 3 sticks in 3 of the 4 slots.

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It's what the vendor of the modules state for nominal voltage that counts .
If they say 2.8 i would run 2.8 or higher (not below) . 0.05 higher to compensate for voltage drops during load.
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And consider apx. 1A +12v usage for each HDD and optical (although the use a bit more at spinup , but then the gfx's are in 2D mode) .
1A +12v for mobo .
Fans run off +12v .
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Hi was using my p4n diamond for about 2h 30min and it all of a sudden just cuts out with no warning.
im unsure if its heat related thought the constant 55C is not as good temp as i should probably have but it stays stable there.
Also when i recently installed msi core it said i was very close to the voltages it had in the display just to hope to rule out power problems.
i have the cases 120mm exaust fan in the back an 80mm input fan in thefront and then the cpu fan that came with my pentium d 830 .
if its heat related should i get another 80mm fan as an exaust or an 80 mm input fan. i have one more spot on the door of the case.
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regarding your question about target temperature. my board isn't exactly the same as yours, but it's close.
you are right that you can lower the target temp and it will tend to cool the cpu because the fan runs faster at a lower temperature. the way i set up mine was to DISABLE the target temp and that gives the fan full voltage at all temps. that way, the fan rpm will bottom out at 2250rpm (instead of 1100rpm up to the target temp) or so even at lower temps.
also keep in mind that your cpu temp in the bios disply should be a few degrees HIGHER than the temp in "idle windows".
the intel data sheet for the pentium D 8xx series says that the max temp is 69C. so your cpu shouldnt have a problem at 55C.
i ran a prime95 primality test for about 17 hours at 60C to test stability (while using the computer for my normal foreground tasks) and didn't have a problem. i'm NOT recommending this. but i wanted you to know that this cpu doesn't have a problem with temps in the 60C range. and that msi motherboard will stand up to rough treatment.
also, in my humble opinion, i would NEVER run those msi windows utilities. they may be causing you a problem with stability. i use speedfan from almico to monitor temps and i have it set up to generate sound and visual warnings at certain temps. the F1 docs are good. if it were my system, i would go so far as to reinstall windows and format the C: to get rid of core center. i wouldn't even trust the uninstall unless you're good enough to surgically remove it manually.
also make sure you turn off EIST in the bios. it wont impact your temps significantly. that nvidia nforce sli intel edition has a problem with 14x multiplier and pentiumD. and EIST bumps you down to 14x occaisionally.

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