P4n diamond keep freezing..

i juz bought
intel pentium d 2.8 gHz
dual memory 1gb corsair (1gb x2)
450 acbel power supply
diamond viper x800xl 256mb
coolermaster hyper4 fan
but then .. the system keep freeze .. even i dont do anything else.when i explore my harddisk .. it also freeze untill my mouse wont move.wuts d main prob of it ?
i read bout dis one guy in d forum said his pc also tend to freeze.u told him it was overheated.but i check out the coresystem.. the temp is only 40-43 celcius.plz help me .need the dual core to work ..

Miejot,
We are trying to narrow down all, problems with you. The more information you can give the quicker we can help you find solution.
Del
PS
I have school in morning so is bedtime here............

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