[P67-GD65 B3] Safe way to flash 4.2 official bios and why.

Hi all!
I am still trying to remedy my problem with too high (~1.43V) voltage while 4.5GHz OC (turbo or not) with "vdroop low" enabled. Now I am on 4.39 and it`s ok on (non turbo/manual x42) 4.2GHz and auto voltage (it`s ~1.288V while Prime, etc). I know that 4.20 official bios gives % vdroop settings. I want to try it to avoid my problem but I can not find 4.20 package ready to go with MSIHQ flasher. Actually all 4.xx MSIHQ versions go from 4.3x.
I am wondering if it is possible just to compress "valcheck.com" with 4.20 official bios file and throw it via Mode 1 to MSIHQ(?)
BTW: Maybe it (flashing 4.20) does not make any sense because "%" vdroop on 4.20 will not give me anything higher then "Auto" voltage settings. I think I need ~1,38V to get stable 4.5GHz. Any other ideas?
I could try manual voltage for CPU but I want to stay with energy saving c-states. I am using C1E with my non turbo OC.
I know You can find my problem a bit boring but maybe forum's Gurus could give me a green or red light(?)

Just to report!
Yesterday I finally tried to down-flash from 4.39 to 4.20 with MSIHQ. Risk taken Happily it was success!
But boy ... I should read carefully comments about 4.20 bios (grammar lost). I did not know that on this bios 100% vdroop is not ... How to say it? It is not 100% of "vdroop low" but rather 100% of "vdroop auto". So it not helped me with my main problem. I am now back to 4.39 beta bios.
BTW1: After some tests, I found that while on CPU voltage on "Auto" my CPU max voltage is ~1,29V (never more, it stabilize more or less from x40 multi CPU) while stress testing. Switching to "Low vdroop" I get above 1.4V just from x40 multi. Something is not right. It goes up with higher multi.
I tried to workaround this by Control Center. Switched to lower multi in bios, switched vdroop to "low" (voltage was OK and below the 1,4V line while stress testing) and then bump up multi in CC. Guess what ... Voltage was also bumped to the same (too high) values.
BTW2: I started to think that above problem may be my fault. From start with my P67-GD65 I experimented with OC Genie and maybe I switched some values or even reseted CMOS while using OC Genie (I know that was warning about it). I don't know, but maybe it damaged something and my motherboard behaves like this for good :/
I think that it is the end of my experiments. Bios 4.20 (% vdroop) was my last resort, but it failed.
Big thanks for all that tried to help me . It started 07-April-12:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=158139.msg1161554#msg1161554
I have to stay on x42 with ~1.288 voltage or go above x45 with more than 1.43V.

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Msi Superior Product:
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They say do not care about the beeps if the PC could work normally.
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Hello,
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Quote from: Jack on 14-November-11, 22:45:26
Thanks for your help Jack, this explains my issue.
I am still used to SDRAM, I mixed different sizes, brands, single and dual sided, even speeds, it always run without problems.
I need to get used.
Quote from: Henry on 15-November-11, 14:47:34
And the fact that they are the troublesome Ripjaws to begin with. Mixing one type of troublesome Ripjaws with another type of troublesome Ripjaws and you end up with double trouble.
I see, despite of the fact Ripjaws are mentioned as compatible, I should avoid them as they mean trouble.
RIP Ripjaws
What brand would you recommend?

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I've used my P67-GD65 for almost 2years now in combination with an Intel Core i7 2600K and I was able to overclock just fine. Ever since I flashed my GD65 to v4.1 and v4.2 to support my new 3770K I can't overclock anymore (aside from Intel's default turbo of upto 39x). Also ECO mode and OC Genie mode are unresponsive in the BIOS.
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I copied the bios of a forum member that's able to OC his 3770K on his P67 GD55 and I'm stll not able to... It showed him having 45x 100MHz but it only applies 3497MHz for me
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I did the msi exchange program on my P67 chipset.
Sent my fully working GD65 board to msi for the B3, got the B3 and installed to find its dead.
Really not happy with the time and costs to take time off work to get it sorted for msi to send me a duff board.
Anyway, what to do? Was I just unlucky our do I go back to Asus and forget about msi..
If I do stick with msi who do I contact about ANOTHER board? Scan.co.uk where I bought my B2 board from or back to msi who sent me a dead board?

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Tried clearing CMOS.
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Quote from: Bernhard on 03-March-12, 19:06:19
My CPU is able to OC to 4,5 with all settings on Auto in the BIOS...
2500K running 4500MHz 1,367V on "Auto"? I can only dream about it and I am not talking about CPU but MB!
My 2500K is running 4500MHz with "int. overvoltage" option enabled but I have to chose:
1. set multi x45, CPU voltage to 1,340V, vdrop to auto - CPU-Z shows 1,384 running Prime - it`s ok IMHO, but no drop to low, idle voltage.
2. set multi x45, CPU voltage to auto, vdrop to Low - CPU-Z shows 1,424 running Prime -
or
3. set multi x42, CPU voltage to auto, vdrop to auto - CPU-Z shows 1,280 running Prime - it`s ok
I see from table that on 4100MHz Bernhard get (assuming "Auto") 1,352V! How? Maybe vdrop was set to "Low"(?) Heh... I get 1,408V with vdrop "Low" while running 4200MHz! It is the same as running auto OC Genie/Moron with button.
In other words... I do not know what is so special with Bernhard's settings to get 1,376V running 4500MHz on "Auto". I know that test was on Z68 and using multimeter but is it possible that voltage oc settings are so different (means broken) on P67-GD65 or maybe it is just a simple user error on my side(?)

Quote from: Jack on 07-April-12, 23:31:00
Yes, that is possible and that does definately not mean something is broken.
"Definately" is a rather strange word in my opinion. Please, do not get me wrong it is (again!) just my opinion.
Quote from: Bernhard on 08-April-12, 00:20:36
I understand your question and possible frustration...
Frustration? No, no, no! I am rather happy with my gaming rig I just want to know, understand more.
So... Could You tell me your Vdroop setting? It is very strange that on "Auto" I get 1,280V (4200MHz, Prime blend, its ok) and You get 1,352V (IMHO too much without vdroop option) on 4100MHz. This is huge difference. Is it just a CPU batch difference? Mind You, when I switch vdroop to "Low" (I have only "Auto" and "Low" here) CPU voltage reading goes to 1,408V (4200MHz, way too much voltage!) testing Prime.
BTW: Older P67-GD65 bioses have Auto, Low and High vdroop settings. AFAIR Low and High was the same. Am I wrong?

P67-GD65 voltage options

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I was wondering if there is a way to adjust the voltage by offset on P67-GD65 board? I'm currently using v1.8b6 version of BIOS and can't find this option. If voltage is set manually to any value other then Auto it won't drop when CPU is idle - with both EIST and C1E enabled.
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Quote from: Jack on 25-February-11, 18:08:30
Contact MSI Technical Support here:
http://support.msi.com/
The form you have to fill out does not require you to choose your mainboard model from a pre-compiled list. It is a free form that allows you to enter whatever you got into the respective fields (Model Name, M/B ERP Version, M/B ECN version, BIOS Version).
Again, this is a user-to-user forum, not a support platform run by MSI Technical Support but by users just like you. In average, we have a little over 255 postings per day here, which adds up to more than 1700 postings per weeks (more than 7600 postings per month) concerned with all kinds of different problems (and very often pseudo-problems) with a large variety of different MSI Retail Products. "Browsing" through these posts "once in a while" is definately not the job of MSI's technical support teams as that would most definately keep them from doing their actual job.
We do not need to debate about this further. If you have a particular issue that is definately BIOS or UEFI related, then it can only be fixed via a BIOS or UEFI Update. We do not make BIOS or UEFI releases here. That means we can not help you with those and that is why contacting MSI Technical Support under the above mentioned address is what you should be doing instead of complaining in here.
MSI Tech. 02/25/2011 Please contact the office which handles your region, as we only handle the U.S. and Canada and do not provide over clocking support, so they can advice you on what your options are. You can use the link below to find the proper office. http://www.msi.com/language/
Well Jack, contacting Tech Support online was certainly a good use of my time.
The thing is, I don't think the Engineers even saw my query, because I'm sure someone with a technical mind and devotion to a product they created would have a bit more professional pride when it doesn't work well. A typical customer service monkey basically told me to get lost, they don't want to know.
Because my region, the UK website, explicitly tells me the UK arm only deals with repair and mainteance and for technical issues I must go elsewhere, the "global" service. And in anycase, I don't want an RMA. I want an engineer to have a look and come up with a BIOS revision.

MSI X58A-GD65 Flash/Re-Flash the New/Same BIOS

Hello.
I have some trouble with overclocking.
The BIOS always saves the Voltage settings but not the multiplier and MHZ and I would like to Re-Flash the same BIOS or a new one.
I can't find the BIOS that I have already flashed and the Live Update does not have any BIOS updates so I came here to ask.
Can I update to version V22.2 from this page? http://eu.msi.com/product/mb/X58A-GD65.html#/?div=BIOS
How can I find the BIOS that I already have and re-flash it?
PS) Please stay to topic questions don't tell me anything about my Cell Menu settings. They are fine because I have tried countless times to save them and only a few times they were actually saved and worked at 4 Ghz.

Maybe others know why your board is stated to only be available thru live update but a quick google search and I found a link to a file with the exact same name as that bios.
http://www.msi.com/service/download/bios-14654.html (bios version 22.2) I'm assuming it's the same one stated on the page for your board that you linked.
I would wait for the more knowledgable people to say what method to use or if it's safe before just flashing anything.
BTW- live update sucks and never seems to work properly. When I first got my board I was thrilled to see an update function built into the bios. first thing I did was use it and it flashed my bios to a version older than what it shipped with!

Best Way to flash bios?

I've currently been reading about flashing bios, which I have discovered numerous ways to accomplish the same task. My question is what does everyone preferr, and how can u flash a bios if you dont have a floppy drive (assuming your using a beta bios and cannot use the windows bios update).
The first method I have seen is by flashing the bios using 2 discs... one a win 98 boot disk (which I had to find online because I'm running xp)... the other a disc with the award patching prog and the bios itself....it seems to me this is the only method in which users using windows xp (home/pro) with NTFS can flash their bios (Except option 2 which is not recommended as being safe). It works by creating a "ROM drive" in the systems memory and can avoid using the C: as it is protected by NTFS.... This is unfortunatly a pain unless you have floppies and a floppy drive.
Option 2 involes using one disc as a boot disk (xp boot disk) and then putting the bios files on that disc aswell.. This will cause the flashing to take place reading purely off the floppy (which I have read is not recommended, and I must agree as floppy drives are pretty old technology that has frequent problems).
The third and final option is to use the Windows Bios Update program which installes the bios with xp running (something I still dont fully understand how can be accomplished)... the big downside to this method is that as far as I can tell only the official bios can be used to do this... ruling out all beta versions from being used ... a dissapointment in my opinion.
In conclusion, what do you all recomend and/or do you have methods that are safer or easier? Thanks For your time

Use the later beta: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=169943.msg1311514#msg1311514 (follow flash instructions there)
For the vga what GTX 970 is it? -> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=167763.0

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