P67a-GD65 (B3) 1.19 BIOS weird turbo boost throttling down issue.

Hi all,
I just upgraded from 1.14 to 1.19 BIOS because of a keyboard detection issue. For the last few years, I always used Turbo boost OC 4.0-4.3ghz.
Since the new BIOS, when I run Prime95, I notice that at first, the OC works well (goes from 1.6ghz to 4.0ghz) but after a while, it will throttle down to 3.9, revert back to 4.0, then 3.9 and sometimes even 3.8ghz.
CPU Voltage never goes above 1.280v.
While I was using the 1.14 BIOS, it never got below 4.0ghz, so I can't figure out what's new in 1.19 that would make the CPU throttle below the values I set for it.
Note that the CPU temp never goes over 62c, so I don't think it's thermal related.
Overspeed, 2013 and C1E disabled, all other stuff at defaults. My core ratios are x40, x41, x42, x43
I also tried 41-44, 42-45, 43-46 ratios, and everytime, it goes up to the minimum ratio (say 43), then after a while, it will always throttle down to 40, 39 and sometimes x38 (rarely but happens everytime though)
Any ideas?

First, I want to thank you for your help... it is much appreciated!
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ll settings being done in the UEFI/BIOS, not the OS right?
Yes, all within the BIOS. 'Change settings in OS is disabled.
When I tried to disable the CPU Phase Control, the PC hung on Windows desktop. Tried both SVID & the other one but no changes (same throttling)
Correction: ONLY Intel SVID mode works on my setup -- the other two will hang on Windows Desktop (ASP Mode, Disabled).
I tried the values you provided with no changes either. :/
I did notice something weird though.
1) I downloaded 'Intel Extreme Tuning Utility' to see if the CPU was throttling because of thermal issues.
2) when I tested the CPU stress test (20 minutes), the CPU went and stayed at 4.10Ghz the entire 20 minutes! no throttling at all
3) I then decided to test the memory stress test, Prime 95, LinX, OCCT and the CPU will throttle down to 3.7 sometimes, but mostly from 4.0 to 3.9ghz on those tests. What does it mean? no clue (yet)
Starting to wonder if it's not the CPU Phase Control. I might reflash 4.3 BIOS to see if it fixes this error (freezing in Windows desktop when disabled), but I'd rather keep this BIOS for now .
I'll keep looking for the answer (let's not forget, I'm able to get a fixed OC at 4.2 no problem when I disable EIST, C-Phases and set the CPU at x42 & vcore at 1.250v)
Again, thanks much for your patience & help!
P.S. I've seen another thread about someone having this exact issue, but didn't take notice back then since I didn't know I had this problem. And now I'm trying to find it, I can't :( Can't even recall if it was on this site or another one.
Worst case scenario, I make myself a 24/7 OC (even at 4.2 ghz... when not doing anything special, the cores temp are about the same as when at 1.6ghz 0.9xxv) I'll actually go do that @4.2 & keep it a few days to see how it goes power usage wise/temps/etc. But if you have any other suggestions, feel free to let me know, takes but a few minutes to revert back to this OC (saved and/or not long to set).
P.P.S. Gotta admit that at full OC 4.2Ghz (no EIST, C1E, etc), I can actually feel the PC being more responsive. Applications start faster (albeit just slightly, but noticeable), everything just feels more snappy. Starting to wonder if I won't keep it that way.

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