P6N SLI Platinum- Cannot set Memory Speed -Manual/Linked

It doesn't seem to matter whether I have the memory set to Linked or Manual- I get the Linked setting in any OC setup.  ??? At stock AUTO, it puts it at the rated 800mhz (pc6400), though.
So for a 1520FSB setting (=380), it sets the memory to 760 in both the Linked setting and the Manual setting.  Sounds like something in the bios, but I have tried the 1.0, 1.1, and 1.22b bioses with the same result! 
Unfortunately, I recorded my OC settings but not the output on my first numerous attempts. But I want to say that originally, when I started the OC's, when I set the memory to Manual it ended up being Linked. And vice versa. So that at 1400FSB (350) --Linked, it gave me the 800 Memory setting and at 1400 (350) --Manual, it gave me 700 on the memory. But I'm not positive now (about a hundred OC settings later --and yes now I've been writing it down) that it ever worked right.
Any help or thoughts? Anyone else with this problem? Any fixes?
 

Quote from: Maesus on 02-May-07, 22:57:14
MSI BIOS is not flexible in overclocking or changing DDR RAM Timing settings. Please live with it and trial and error with the RAM timing setting that yields the best result.
I'm just supposed to accept the fact that you cannot set the ram to a manual timing, that it will always run as linked..... then why have the option to select it in the bios if it's not going to be functional. That's just unacceptable!  live with it......right ! That's shoddy at best.! 
Didn't have this problem with any Asus board (which has been several) or Abit board that I've owned! 
And why is noone reporting this same behavior from their board and bios in this forum or over in hardforum or in the anandtech threads????

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    - is it a WELL KNOWN PROBLEM when we try to disconnect and replug too hastily the d-bracket headers without switching off the power supply (*my* main erorr here, it seems :( :( ) ????
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    thx in advance again +

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    Another issues is I highly doubt the accuracy of CPU temp sensor. Msi 's software monitor reports my CPU temp is around 19-20 degree, I know that's too good to be true even I am using a water cooling system. Btw my cpu is E6600. Anyone else has the similar issues?
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    The third, I notice my CPU voltage is bouncing between 1.1 to 1.24 in CPU-z. And the multiplier is changing from 6 to 9, frequency is changing from 1.6g to 2.4g. I only see this in CPU-z.  Msi 's own software reports CPU running at 2.4g though. Is this cpuz issue or something else?
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