P6N SLI Platinum crashes from cold boot

Intel Core 2 Duo E6420, 2.13GHz, 1,066FSB, 4MB
Zalman CNPS9500-AT Intel LGA775 Aero Flower Cooler
MSI P6N SLI Platinum
Neste ECS 6001 600 watts PSU (3.3V/24A, +5V/30A, +5VSB/3A, +12V1/18A, +12V2/18A, +12V3/18A, +12V4/18A, -12V/0.5A)
2 x 1GB Crucial PC2-5300 Non ECC CL5
XFX GeForce 8600GTS 256MB DDR3 PCIe (PV-T84G-UDF3)
1 x Western Digital Caviar 160GB 7200rpm, S300, 16MB SATA (system disk)
3 x Western Digital Caviar 500GB 7200rpm, S300, 16MB SATA (data disks)
BIOS – 1.1 updated to 1.5, default settings (I'm not overclocking)
Windows XP SP2 OEM
I installed the above system last summer and have been having problems ever since. Initially the video signal dropped after booting so I replaced the graphics card. This didn’t work so I replaced the MOBO. All was OK for a while then the system started crashing for no apparent reason but would usually be OK for a while after re-booting. Then it failed to boot into Windows at all. I checked the BIOS and noticed that the Smart Fan setting in the H/W Monitor had disabled itself somehow (I had set it to be enabled with a target temperature of 40OC). I re-enabled the setting and was able to boot into Windows OK. However it still crashes every time from a cold boot (the CPU fan comes on full speed for a few seconds then the computer just shuts down). After a few re-boots it settles down and seems to be fine.
I’m assuming the problem is something to do with CPU temperature but in the BIOS H/W monitor the system and CPU temperatures are never above 30 to 35OC. As the system seems to be perfectly stable once it’s been re-booted a few times it doesn’t seem that the CPU is actually overheating. I’ve tried setting the CPU target temperature higher (say to 60 OC) but still get the same cold boot crash. Note that the MSI Dual Core Centre utility in Windows shows the same CPU and system temperatures as the BIOS monitor (although the GPU temperature is much higher at 60 OC).
Any suggestions for solving this would be much appreciated.

I'm not familiar with your brand of ps. Have you tested the rails while the system is running using a digital voltage meter?

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[P6N SLI Platinum] black screen NO BOOT after D-bracket replug [RMA-SOLVED]

Quick setup specs;
P6N SLI Platinum
E6600 (box/stock 2400mhz basic)
2x 1Gb DDR2 6400 Gskill HZ
Sapphire ATI X1600Pro (PCI-e basic)
Aerocool Zero DBA 620W
(2 HDs sata, 2 Hds pata, 2 optical pata at first -all OK at first, disconnected after, so irrelevant here ,( )
(XP Pro clean new install from start)
I tried to check the forum old posts before trying to write that new one, but could not find any really related totally adequate posts so far (or i missed them, sorry if so, then -?). I could already find very useful informations on first aid usual 'rebooting' procedures to follow with minimum new boot configurations, d-bracket new LED signals etc. But so far no luck, all same, nothing better, nothing cured here for the stuation here. ,(( Also excuse my english if not perfect, i am not english either. ,(
VERY bad & sad problem here... ,(((( :
All was working perfectly great during 5 days.. the P6N SLI platinum install went GREAT initially (as normal, not a first pc built, all normally happening, so far so good, etc).... all hardwares compatible together at first (dedicated ATX 'full' 8x8 pins connector too for the cpu only for ex -all working perfect at first try. quick tensions 5V/12V under msi dual core control tool perfect too etc), was great easy going/ great strong ultra-stability feeling on the hardware side.. i was just now concentrating on the software side (no special BIOS tweaks even attempted so far, all on basics-normal e6600/ddr2 auto-settings, apart at the end ddr2 quick test -when problem occured- on 450(900?)Mhz at 2.1V, far far easy under its possible specs max anyway.. and had been working perfect for 3 days with that little ddr2 boost try -no time for special bios further tweakings now, etc), reinstalling and transfering/reorganizing slowly my necessary files/hds/softwares from old to new setup, no oc, nothing special tempted (i was planning oc, new cpu more suited fan/silver6 etc only for the end..), LAN file sharing setup done, Realtek audio setup test done, etc ; installation had been so far one of the quickest and problem free ever... explaining maybe also my fatal lack of cautioun for just (too much) 3 sec in the end after 5/- days of perfect working new ring going on.. ,((( :
At first, i also tried to immediately install the D-Bracket too to check possible hardware install problems -very useful feature i of course thought too..and wanted to try too, "in case of"..- (installing it from quick reading of the printed manual..with no colour pic coding inside..and quick error coming from there thereafter with an initial mismatch usb/jbd1 inverted plugs connections.. *both* having the exact same pins numbers and dispositions, beeing side by side on mainboard layout.. and so able to connect both headers indifferently.. so i did not see it immediately (( .. and no way to see it otherwise as such, anyway.. ,( ), just to be sure all was ok. I noticed that LED were of course, never lightning (not normal).. but as EVERYTHING else was working fine (GLAN, sound, etc etc).. i did not bother more than that -- error checking not necessary.
Till that fatal clumsy day i wanted suddenly to.. check the D-bracket too. ((((
All was working well, XP pro opened for hours as usual etc..
i had not yet totally finished to install the motherboard in the pc-case (always on desk, free in sight..)... so i could always see the connections on it. ... and i noticed that ... the colour headers codes were NOT matching (usb=yellow..).. i had just stupidly initially badly connected the D-Bracket jdb1/usb adjacent plugs (inverting them), so... And still, all had ever worked perfect.. except the D-Bracket, of course, was sending back no lights then, obviously.. so i did the fatal error.. confident all was stable enough and strong if even that initial plug error had had no consequences at all.. i did the fatal bad move to try to UNPLUG the D-Bracket connectors and put them back in right orders WITHOUT switching OFF the power supply so... like an hot USB plug, sort of, in a way. fatal error.. :( :( :(
As soon as i began to remove the usb/jdb1 connectors and put them back in normal order... the system suddenly SHUT DOWN ... no special bad noise, no special smell.. just sudden SHUT DOWN.
From there.. impossible ever to boot back again the so far perfectly working machine (((((((((((( , always same till now :
i switch on the power supply.. orange led appears on motherboard (ok)... i switch on the motherboard.. green led on motherboard appears (ok)... CPU fan begins (ok), video fan begins (ok) .... and... NOTHING.. total black video screen. no more even possibility to see the BIOS. :( total dead startup .. and the fans are going on eternally, blocked eternally in that inital startup with leds on too (no sudden shut down after a few seconds.. just.. nothing)... :(
Suprem irony.. the D-bracket LED seems to 'work' now.. "of course". Just the PC no more booting at all ^. Only thing is that only green LEDs are appearing, no red ones... simply the sequence, from start and never changing :
1. GREEN 2. GREEN
3. GREEN 4. (---) (not red, just nothing -?)
If i look in manual, it means "Testing RTC (real time clock)". I don't know exactly what it means *here*, but sounds to me it is the most basic initial first BIOS checking.. and BIOS can't be reached for even that so ; BIOS fried???? :( :(
I tried every 'standard' things recommanded usually here in older posts, for new boots recovery attempts thereafter in such 'boot errors' situations (clear cmos button pushed in every possible ways -quick, long, quick etc..-, removing little by little everything but the very minimal least energy taxing setup; keyboard, cpu, video, motherboard; 1 ddr2 nearest cpu slot.. point).. NOTHING. Worst, i tried to boot with one of those elements missing.. exact same D-Bracket lightning from start to.. eternally (123 GREEN 4-nothing). Even tried to remove the little (cmos?) KTS lithium battery for a few hours -that could work sometimes with the old already ultra-sensitive amd/nforce2 chipset bioses problems, so i tried there too-?-; same 3 green lights and fans running and nothing else happening from there.. ((
Always the same; total dead boot as above. black screen. no possible access to even bios panel. ,(((
So my desperate questions, now: of course, the origin is obvious here; all happened "by my fault" when i tried 'too quickly' to 'hot-plugging' replace correctly the D-BRACKET plugs *without* switching off the power supply... all shut down suddenly when i put back correctly the usb& jdb1 headers... :( ;
- do you think there could be any possible last HOPES to recover the situation that i had missed (a well known situation in such d-bracket handling 'common' (?) connection error, a simple trick to try i had missed ??)
- do you think i FRIED something in the process on the motherboard ?? :( :(
- do you think it is 'only' the BIOS (fried????) ?? :( :(
- do you think i could have fried a specifical external key component in the process (not necessarily motherboard) : ddr2 modules, cpu, video card????? :( :(
- is my only solution is to send the motherboard to RMA (no other ways now) ???
please, don't hesitate to give me any possible hints to try to avoid the RMA process.
can i avoid it, right now?
is that possible to fry an whole board just with such a D-Bracket 'hot plug switch' (on a so far perfectly working -light- setup - no oc, little video card, etc) ???? :( :(
That is the only C2D Intel/ddr2 motherboard i have here around. No possibility to test elements by elements for precise error checking (cpu, ddr2 modules, video card or powersupply).
Only things i could check so far are;
- the power supply (aerocool 620W zeroDBA) ;
i tested it back on my old amd xp-m nforce2 setup.. always working apparently. NOT 'fried' so, apparently. but no way of course to test for exemple the special 8x8 (or 8x4) Intel ATX cpu connector on old xp-m motherboard. But power supply NOt fried at least, apparently -?
- the video card.
no way for me to really test the pci-e card on other motherboard around but.. i tried a very old PCI VGA card.. that one works on old setup.. and on P6N, no effect, doesn't improve the situation. So, not sure the new pci-e video card isn't fried.. but a new video card doesn't correct the dead boot problem.. (
No way for me to test the ddr2 or CPU directly though.
Do you think DDR2 or CPU could have been fried in the process too ???
or just, as i fear anyway, 'simply', the motherboard BIOS fried -??? :-(
Really, thx for any suggestions..
if there could be an 'hidden' trick i did not try yet to try to recover the (initially working perfectly!!! (( ) setup, WITHOUT engaging the motherboard RMA process (at least 2 or 3 weeks lost here to wait the return..online store etc..)....
please, suggest me.. ,((
i am *really* very sad of that stupid clumsy idea to want to 'enable' the D-Bracket.. all was working great so far.. and i lost all with just that stupid idea to try an hot plug bracket reconnection without switching off the power supply it seems.. can it be possible,sigh?? all seemed so stable before that, that i.. just lost my usual cautious just 3 sec too long it seems... :-(
Thanks in advance
hoping post not too long too, but i tried to expose the situation as precisely as possible; first time i ever had such a problem with a motherboard/system install.. that is quiet ironical knowing it was also the best and quickest/easiest easy going new built i ever had so far too.. till then ,( .. and all came from the 'helper' d-bracket 'luxury second hand possible boot helper diagnostic tool' checking in the end too, here.. really hoping i can avoid an RMA process.. and no other hardware elements (apart the motherboard?) could have been damaged in the process ? ,(((

hi, thx a lot for the quick answer. sorry for the length indeed (i did not know exactly how to describe the situation.. without omitting any later possibly important details).
Alas, i already tried that many times in following interesting asnwers on similar problems in old posts here; did NOTHING. ,(
But after your post, i tried it again, and removed for the remaining *hours* (6/8h?) the cmos battery as suggested again *too* so -pushed again the clear cmos button etc when battery out, then when in again, then replugging the powersupply etc; NOTHING better alas too. always same, no boot, black screen, no bios. ,(
Problem always the same, to sum up, for clarity:
power supply on => orange motherboard led is lightning up, motherboard on => green motherboard led is lightning up, cpu/video/case fans are working up as normal and.. that's all. nothing else forever. black screen. no signal. not a single chance to get again the bios setup screen.
another detail i omitted, maybe; keyboard lights are all lightnng up too.. and stay blocked in that state too. tested with 2 different keyboards, same. to shut down the leds, fans etc, only one solution, shut down the power supply button directly, at that stage.
right now, i test on barebone minimal system as recommanded too;
cpu, 1 dimm (closest cpu slot), video, keyboard. all rest disconnected.
i of course tried to reset the cmos with the 'magical red button' many times before, with power supply cable plugged out, pushed the button trying almost every possible way so far (quick, long, long sequences, short sequences etc etc)... changed NOTHING so far -is that thing working?? ,(. and right now, same after hours with cmos battery removed too. ,(
the d-bracket leds are always (now it is correctly plugged..) :
123 GREEN 4 (nothing)
"Testing RTC (real time clock)"
another 'interesting' detail is that; those leds are appearing IMMEDIATELY after the motherboard is switched on, from start (green led appearing on P6N). and it is staying as such till the end. nothing else. i tried to connect also the case speaker ; no bips, no sound signals at all too.
I also remind the system was WORKING like a dream during 5 days *before* i had that sudden TOTAL boot problem.... AND i touched almost nothing in the bios too all along, for initial security reasons too.. (i was concentrating on the software installs anyway right now, NOT on the oc side..). The ddr2 quick little change i did was also the ONLY change i tempted to simply test quickly some setting i already saw working without problem with that P6N and that kind of ram.. and it was working without problem so far too, so.. all the time idem. And it had been perfectly working for 3 days as such untouched from there; no problems at all (those memory modules have been seen on that motherboard largely at those specs, why i did that quick test anyway.. far under their possible max -micron chips). it was even working so well i forgot to put the setting back as default after that quick ram test.. so much it was stable too (even if i had not time to do real memtest test on that one - i did for many hours with the initial automatical default settings too, to check the ram quality, was perfect for many hours, so ok too, no bad ram initially too-; was so stable for all my XP software installs operations etc.. that i forgot it thereafter, to be true..why it stayed like that till that moment (incidently).. but i preferred to mention it 'just in case' though, yes. i also did not push at all the dimm voltages in the process, it was always far inside the specs at 2.05V to be exact -usual for that ram too up to those numbers easy for it. i did not push the ram voltages either so..).
The problem ONLY appears when i wanted to unplug the *initially* badly connected D-bracket headers so (inverted headers.. but that caused NO problems either so far too for the system stability.. only the LEDs were of course not working so far..) : i did the error to NOT switch off the power supply. :(
*then* immediately the system shut down... and above situation appeared. ,(
BUT all was working perfect before.. ram setting included so. ,((
So my simple questions now too ;
- do you know what means *exactly* the d-bracket message 'Testing RTC" (123 GREEN, 4 nothing).. initial bios problem, isn't it?? other ways to recover it now?? ,((
- is it a WELL KNOWN PROBLEM when we try to disconnect and replug too hastily the d-bracket headers without switching off the power supply (*my* main erorr here, it seems :( :( ) ????
... and of course, do you think it could have *fried* another key component (cpu, ram -?? why i reminded the setting, just in case-?-, video card? .. ) with that d-bracket initial disconnection error ... ,(
as i said, i have no secondary c2d/ddr2 motherboard here : no way to test the cpu and ddr2 modules on another motherboard to be sure too here. :( i absolutely can't know if they have been damaged or not, here.. :( :(
any other idea for the motherboard itself though ??? ,(
once again, thx a lot for any suggestions and precisions on that problem (is that a COMMON well known problem with the d-bracket, when we unplug and replug it without extrem care like i did -my main inattention error it seems.. mainly because all was so stable before too.. ((( - without shutting down the power supply/system FIRST ???? can it be possible 'only' that shut down all the system??? (( )
thx in advance again +

P6N SLI Platinum Reboots on Cold Start

I have the noted board with an E6750 CPU and 4GB of RAM. Problem also occurred when I only had 2GB of RAM.
When I cold boot, even if the machine has only been turned off a minute or two, the system boots and loads correctly, but after 3-4 minutes it will shut down. No messages, no warning, just black screen. If I immediately flip the power switch and bring it back up the system boots and loads then runs perfectly - until I shut it down again.
Any ideas on what could be causing this? I've had the problem since the day I built the system. Boots, shuts down after a few minutes, then boots and runs forever. I've installed a new hard drive with a fresh OS install and the problem remained. I've installed a different video card (same drivers) and the problem remained.
This isn't a show-stopper, it just tweaks me that I can't isolate and fix the problem. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

As an update, I installed a Corsair 750W PSU. Still have the problem. Thing is, while installing the PSU I heard the BIOS beep four times on a cold boot. After it warmed up and shut down I rebooted again. That time, only the single BIOS beep. I shut down again, let it get cold, rebooted - and got 4 beeps once again. After it booted and shut down I immediately rebooted, got just the single beep and - as usual - the system was stable.
What I read about BIOS beeps is that 4 short ones mean there's a memory or motherboard problem. I ran MEMTEST and there were no memory errors, so I'm guessing the problem is the motherboard.
But I did get a new PSU out of the deal!
System Specs:
MSI P6N SLI Motherboard
AMI BIOS V1.6 (error also occurred under different BIOS versions)
Intel E6750 CPU 2.66 GHz
Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 PC6400 Memory (4GB - 4 1GB sticks) (error also occurred with 2GB)
Corsair CMPSU-750TX power supply
Dual EVGA 8800GT GPUs (error also occurred under single 8800GT installed and single 7950GT)
Western Digital HDD WD6400AAKS 640GB SATA (error also occurred on a different hard drive)
Windows XP Home SP3 (error occurred under SP2 as well)
Thermaltake VM3000A tower case[/size][/size]

XP and P6N SLi Platinum, crashes and slows down

Installed the above board into my XP machine last Monday. New processor and new ram and brand new top range power unit. It worked a treat, installed some new drivers and the system was lovely. However, being too clever for my own good, thought it would run even better on a fresh re install of windows XP.
Ah ah, oh to turn back the clock. Ist fresh install was lovely other then whenever it used windows installer 3.1 it would often take five minutes to get to 100% to start that and then it would simply disappear. Only appearing when you tried to shut down. Hopeless. Did a second fresh install, downloaded all the updates, service pack 2, just like it was before I started. Same problem with installer, and if you had more then one application open, the mouse would move like it was drunk and as you opened folders there would be strange noises from the speakers and then suddenly a blue screen. Have tried checking all the device drivers, have tried everything I can think of. Now I used it for five days before the fresh install and no problem. Have touched the BIOS, and nothing added to the machine.
This is the last chance before I go back to my drive copy of how it was before I got smart, but if any one can think of anything to try I'm game. Many thanks in advance.
Malcolm

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new processor and new ram and brand new top range power unit.
Please list full system specs.
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downloaded all the updates, service pack 2, just like it was before I started.
Try to use a Windows XP install CD that allready includes SP2. If you do not have one, you can use XP ISO BUILDER or NLite to create a new install CD based on your existing one. Use Google to find one of the tools I mentioned. Guides can be found all over the internet.
Use an up-to-date install CD and try again with that one.

P6N SLI Platinum not booting after CPU change

I just upgraded the CPU in my machine with a P6N SLI Platinum motherboard from a E6700 to an E8500. I first upgraded the BIOS to 1.7 as the MSI page seemed to indicate that was a pre-req for this CPU. The machine was working fine for a day with the new CPU.
I changed the CPU in the machine and when I tried to boot, the lights on the motherboard came on as well as the fan, but no video or sound. In addition none of the diagnostic LEDs on the D Bracket light up. They had been previously working. Neither do the lights on my memory sticks light up.
I tried clearing the CMOS by hitting the switch but nothing. I am now going to try switching back CPUs but I don't have much hope that that is the problem given the diagnostic LEDs don't light. Does anyone have any suggestions as to a fix or is this motherboard fried?
P.S. Do you hit hte CMOS clear switch when the computer is off but the motherboard is charged? Or do you unplug the computer and wait for the internal orange light to go out as well too?

Quote from: Henry on 24-January-10, 11:41:19
What is the QC number (by the cpu socket) is 01, 02, or 03?
See this thread for more:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php/topic,123486.msg932471.html#msg932471
Ah. Given I bought my P6N SLI Platinum 3.5 years ago when they first came out I imagine mine is one of the older versions that doesn't support 45nm CPUs by default. Is there a photo somewhere showing where the QC number is located exactly on this MB? It's probably located under my huge CPU heatsink and I'm not going to remove that for a third time just to check.
I really wish the MSI CPU compatibility page mentioned that. It would save me a lot of time. It's not worth my time and effort to dismantle my PC, send them the MB and wait for them to send me back a compatible one.
I verified the BIOS upgrade by looking at the version number at startup and using CPUZ.

P6n sli platinum cannot boot up

Hello
Everytime I boot up the D bracket suggests the computer is failing on initializing the floppy drive controller. i have changed the cable, and changed the floppy drive but same effect.
In the BIOS, if I go through and F10 for no save and exit, it then exits to bank screen as it fails at the point above. If i make any changes in the BIOS, and then try to accept those changes it freezes on pressing either Y or enter. At that point all I can do is turn off and start again. Naturally it doen't retain those changes. I have done this several times to disable the floppy.
I have removed the battery and put it back, (It's 16 months old). It then did allow me to disable floppy but still machine did not go beyond the above point. Whenever I have tried to go back into the Bios again, it will now freeze when I try and accept any change in settings.
As you will see I am unable to even boot from a floppy at this point so cannot een consider updating the BIOS. However before yesterday it has been working perfectly.
Any suggestions, or the loan of an axe to reprogramme the ****** thing would be much appriecated.
Thank you
Malcolm
Motherboard P6N SLI Platinum, G52-73501x1-Q05
2.20.0050.10 BIOS verison
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
Sony MPF920 floppy
4 Harddrives. Boot is IDE, then 3 others, one of which is sata
2 memory sticks, 2 gb ram
Plexwriter CD
Pioneer DVDRW 105
Pioneer DVD
DMX-6fire soundcard
HD620W power supply
full details not known as mostly stored on the computer
No faults on system since it was built 16 months ago

Quote from: yokochanie on 03-October-08, 13:55:28
Motherboard P6N SLI Platinum, G52-73501x1-Q05
2.20.0050.10 BIOS verison
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor
Sony MPF920 floppy
4 Harddrives. Boot is IDE, then 3 others, one of which is sata
2 memory sticks, 2 gb ram
Plexwriter CD
Pioneer DVDRW 105
Pioneer DVD
DMX-6fire soundcard
HD620W power supply
full details not known as mostly stored on the computer
No faults on system since it was built 16 months ago
"2 memory sticks, 2 gb ram"
That doesn't talk much, we need full details about it.
"Intel Core 2 Duo Processor"
Which one?
"2.20.0050.10 BIOS verison"
That's not your BIOS version, look here how to check==> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=113146.0
What VGA you use?
Remove power cord from the PSU and leave just one memory stick in 1st DIMM, once done proceed with >>Clear CMOS Guide<<
Then try to boot, if no change disconnect any storages{4 HDD's, 3 Optical drives, and any USB devices which you may have attached} and re-test.

COMIC BOOTING on P6N SLi Platinum

I run P95 stable for more than 12hrs using Q6600 on P6NSLi Platinum with foll. settings. vcore- +0.2375V, fsb vtt +20% FSB 1620MHz MEM - 2.00V NB- 1.45V SB- 1.60V C1E/ HPET/ EIST -disabled. Mem runnin @ 810MHz @5-5-5-18
problem arises when i switch off the power including the mains. when i boot up next time it doesnt boot & i have to reset my bios. after that i cant directly feed in 1620MHz because it doesnt boot in the range of 1500MHz-1649MHz in 1st attempt. i have to feed in a value above 1650MHz n then restart with 1620MHz. if i dont switch off mains then this problem doesnt arise. i have changed my BIOS battery to no effect.i also have flashed to d latest BIOS which on d contrary has added 1 more problem..it doesnt recognise Multipiers if i change them..i changed from 9 to 8 on my Q6600 & still in d settings including CPU-Z it shows 9 inspite showing 8 in BIOS. how do i solve this problem?
My rig
Intel Q6600, MSI P6N SLi Platinum, 1gb*4 gskill pc6400 ram @ 5-5-5-15 2.0v, EVGA 9600Gt ko version, 1sata, 2 ide hdds, sata dvd burner, TRUE120 wid arctic coolin mx-2

I should also state that when I look at the 'Event Viewer' in component services (I'm running XP SP 2),there are many erropr messages relating to 'service control manager which lists all sorts of issues) and warning messages relating to the DHCP.
This is the message that I get under the warning heading..........
''Your computer was not able to renew its address from the network (from the DHCP Server) for the Network Card with network address 00D09EC701E2. The following error occurred:
The semaphore timeout period has expired. . Your computer will continue to try and obtain an address on its own from the network address (DHCP) server. ''
For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp................
Does this help in any way. Does anyone have any idea why my connection keeps hanging???

MediaShield RAID 5 implementation on a P6N SLI Platinum plus boot question

Hi guys
I have a P6N SLI Platinum I am considering using to replace my old decrepit Thecus N4100+ NAS enclosure. My NAS has four 750Gb SATA II drives in RAID 5 giving a total usable amount of about 2Tb.
I have a few questions please:
What is the maximum size RAID that MediaShield will support? I seem to recall reading somewhere it was 1.6Tb? This is a problem with 3Tb storage (1/4 redundancy)!!
What is the performance like running RAID 5? What are the read/write times like?
How much of a performance hit does the PC take running RAID 5 with MediaShield? This box has an E5500 quad core 4*2.8Ghz chip but is running some very hungry software (one build is a DAW based on Cubase and various VSTs; another is running Photoshop CS3) which I can't afford to be tied up sorting out low level RAID stuff if it's going to be a problem. Can I dedicate one of my four cores to the XOR for the RAID 5 freeing up the other three for actual PC stuff?
There is currently one SATA drive already in this box containing the OS. If I use the four SATA ports for the MediaShield RAID and buy a 3rd party PCI/PCIE SATA controller card to plug this current drive into will I be able to set it to boot from it or do I need to migrate the drive to an IDE drive and put it on the IDE chain?
Many thanks in advance you guys.
Cheers

Where do I start?
I have a E5500, it's a dual core chip.
Second, media shield sucks. Don't use it unless absolutely necessary.
Buy a pci-e 1x 'firmware' card, I use the RocketRaid 2300 cards, good and cheap. Good, usable RAID5.
They have a performance advantage, a load time advantage, cpu utilization advantage, and most importantly, if you want to migrate your array over to another motherboard, you can. Easily.
If your mobo dies, and you replace it with a more current one, your array is toast with mediashield.\
Boot from a motherboard sata port. Don't boot from a RAID 5 array, trust me.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816115029

P6N sli platinum + F2-6400PHU1-1GBNR memory from g.skill

So I have a msi p6n sli platinum (650i) and 2 x F2-6400PHU1-1GBNR g. skill memory.
I was wondering what timings / voltages others had reliably attained with the same.

I need to understand the purpose of this thread. It is fine to have general enquiries on the board's combination with other hardwares, but at least provide us more idea of what you are trying to understand.
It'll be good if you can let us know your current config on your current system combination and break the ice from there.

P6N SLI Platinum mobo with hard drive/sata crashes

i've experienced a (now recurring) problem with my hardware over the past several months. i've come home from work twice now, once about 2 months ago, the other just today to find my computer stuck at the windows xp loading screen. if i tried to reboot the system, it would hang at that point, until i disconnected the offending drive/sata channel (i had 3 hard drives in my system, 1 150gb drive with operating system, ect, and 2 500gb drives for storage (mp3s, video, ect). i've narrowed the problem down to either the motherboard or the sata cables (i don't have spare cables to test with), as the hard drives work perfectly in an external usb enclosure. any ideas of what could be wrong?
basic system stats:
msi P6N SLI platinum motherboard
intel core 2 duo E6600 2.4ghz processor
crucial ballistix DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) 2 gb SDRAM
EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS video card
western digital raptor 150gb 10k rpm SATA hard drive
western digital caviar 500gb 7200 rpm SATA hard drive
PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750w power supply

in brief,
1- if you have one memory it should be in slot 1, closest to cpu, if two X 1Gb then they should be in one and three.
2- do you know what is virtual memory if so have you made adjustment or not.
3- you have freeze due to wrong bios setting till we get a good picture of your bios difficult to pin point the mistake, so use either a digi cam or web cam and take shoots of your bios then we can pin point the mistakes

P6N Sli Platinum front audio panel and CPU temp voltage issues

Hi All,
I got my P6N Sli Platinum yesterday, build up my computer without any major issues. However I have noticed that my audio front panel does not work. It could not detect my microphone when i plug it into front auido panel, it works fine for the rear auido panel though.
Another issues is I highly doubt the accuracy of CPU temp sensor. Msi 's software monitor reports my CPU temp is around 19-20 degree, I know that's too good to be true even I am using a water cooling system. Btw my cpu is E6600. Anyone else has the similar issues?
The third, I notice my CPU voltage is bouncing between 1.1 to 1.24 in CPU-z. And the multiplier is changing from 6 to 9, frequency is changing from 1.6g to 2.4g. I only see this in CPU-z. Msi 's own software reports CPU running at 2.4g though. Is this cpuz issue or something else?
Finally, any tips to max the overclock potential of this board? I have overclocked to 3.1g but there are some crashes. Going higher the board just won't boot up. I read a review on anandtech.com says 1.22 bios is good for oc. Where can i download that? I only found 1.1 bios on official site.
Any reply will be appreciated.
Cheers

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Another issues is I highly doubt the accuracy of CPU temp sensor. Msi 's software monitor reports my CPU temp is around 19-20 degree, I know that's too good to be true even I am using a water cooling system. Btw my cpu is E6600. Anyone else has the similar issues?
C2D-CPUs have a digital internal sensor to monitor CPU Core temperatures. Have a look at those with Core Temp ( http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/CoreTemp/ ). This Tool reads the temperature data directly from the register of your CPU. There is nothing wrong with the sensor. It is rather the MSI tool that does not read the data it provides correctly.
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The third, I notice my CPU voltage is bouncing between 1.1 to 1.24 in CPU-z. And the multiplier is changing from 6 to 9, frequency is changing from 1.6g to 2.4g. I only see this in CPU-z. Msi 's own software reports CPU running at 2.4g though. Is this cpuz issue or something else?
There is no issue. What CPU-Z allows you to see there is the C1E-feature of your CPU at work. When there is nothing to do your processor will automatically reduce Core Voltages and frequency to save power and keep temperatures down. As soon as the work load increases the multiplier is set back to x9 and core voltages increase dynamically. It is meant to be a good thing.
I have overclocked my system a little and I like that the C1E feature is still working at this speed setting CPU frequency to 2GHz and core voltage to 1.144v when my system is idle.
If you have problems with this feature you can turn it off in BIOS. The option is labeled as "C1E Support" and might be hidden somewhere. You may be able to hit "F4" to unhide it.
The MSI utilities are not the best tools to monitor your system. CPU-Z, Core Temp, Everest, Speedfan, Memset, Rightmark Memory Analyzer for example do a far better job.

P6n sli platinum + e4300 oc

I've read tons of posts on forums, but most just give FSB speeds, not actual numbers to use in setting the system clock, so how do we know what to use actually?
When do you use the 1:1 ratio? or any of the others if your motherboard BIOS doesn't let you manually set your memory multiplier?
I have the updated BIOS from MSI LiveUpdater and Web
I've Disabled the following in BIOS
Execute Bit Disable
Set Limit CPUID MaxVal to 3
HPET
CPU Smart FAN Target
D.O.T. Control
Intel EIST
All Spread Spectrum including:
CPU Spread Spectrum
PCIE Spread Spectrum
CPU/LDT Spread Spectrum
SATA Spread Spectrum
Questions
System Clock-Auto,Linked,Manual
Which is best and when to use for what?
I went to 1333 for a steady 3.0ghz overclock. Temps were below 40C
at idle and were 65C under full load.
Adjust CPU Ratio-To what?
Stock shows 9, but can go from 6-9 as well.
Last night I got to FSB1600
Mem 800
with 8x multiplier
very fast, but lost settings on re-boot. So basically unstable.
CPU Voltage-Try to not increase this by first overclocking as much as I
can on stock voltage, but if it becomes unstable or won't boot, I just increase it how I see fit based on stability right? I just want a good bootable computer to use daily for about 3 hours and 48hrs on weekends.
Not too much into games yet, but will once I get speakers and a better monitor. Mostly business/student needs.
Memory Voltage-Stock is: Timing 5-5-5-15
Voltage 1.8 - 2.0
I got this to 2.2 and everything was fine.
I can manually set it to 4-4-4-12 1T as well.
NB Voltage-I got this as high as I could and it worked great, I think it was 1.7.I heard on forums that the higher you go the better for overclocking. Plus it's got a fan on it stock and I don't care about noise fan at all.
SB Voltage-I got this to 1.6 and it was fine too. But it's not cooled so how much is too much?
FSB VTT Voltage-I read that if you go to 20% it stabilizes your rig when
you overclock, so I set it and it worked great.
My Setup
Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 Allendale 1.8GHz
ZALMAN CNPS9500 LED 92mm 2 Ball Cooling Fan with Heatsink
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
MSI P6N SLI Platinum 650i
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 CAC-T05 Case
Thermaltake TR2 ATX 430W
EVGA GeForce 8600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card
Western Digital Caviar SE 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb
$700 exactly with shipping from NEWEGG
PURE BUDGET BUILD

Hello welcome to the forum,
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System Clock-Auto,Linked,Manual
Which is best and when to use for what?
I went to 1333 for a steady 3.0ghz overclock. Temps were below 40C
at idle and were 65C under full load.
System clock I believe is how the memory freq is generated. "Auto" would be automatic, "Linked" would be linked to FSB speed, "Manual" wold be manually setting the speed.
65c on the cores or the CPU? Because if it's the cores, drop down, anywhere over 60c and your CPU may start skipping cycles.
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Adjust CPU Ratio-To what?
Stock shows 9, but can go from 6-9 as well.
Last night I got to FSB1600
Mem 800
with 8x multiplier
very fast, but lost settings on re-boot. So basically unstable.
CPU ratio is the multiplier in which you times the FSB speed to generate/set the CPU clock. E.g:
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FSB of 100x10 (cpu ratio) = 1000MHz CPU core speed.
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CPU Voltage-Try to not increase this by first overclocking as much as I
can on stock voltage, but if it becomes unstable or won't boot, I just increase it how I see fit based on stability right? I just want a good bootable computer to use daily for about 3 hours and 48hrs on weekends.
Not too much into games yet, but will once I get speakers and a better monitor. Mostly business/student needs.
yes only increase for stability, never increase because you think you may need too.
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Memory Voltage-Stock is: Timing 5-5-5-15
Voltage 1.8 - 2.0
I got this to 2.2 and everything was fine.
I can manually set it to 4-4-4-12 1T as well.
They are fine, just don't go over 2.3v, your RAM chips will start to fry otherwise.
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NB Voltage-I got this as high as I could and it worked great, I think it was 1.7.I heard on forums that the higher you go the better for overclocking. Plus it's got a fan on it stock and I don't care about noise fan at all.
No, wrong way to do it. Do it like CPU VCore, only increase when stability is needed. Also monitor temperatures of NB as much as your CPU. Fan speeds don't bother me either, but temps do! Watch them at all times when overclocking.
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SB Voltage-I got this to 1.6 and it was fine too. But it's not cooled so how much is too much?
Only increase if you need to, the SB core is usually the last voltage that needs increasing.
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FSB VTT Voltage-I read that if you go to 20% it stabilizes your rig when
you overclock, so I set it and it worked great.
It's the voltage you supply to the FSB bus, too much and you will kill the FSB and your mainboard will be a fancy paper weight. Only increase when stability is needed, just like every other voltage.

P6N SLI Platinum - E4300 multiplier drops to 6x

Hi all, first post. Did some searches on here and can't find an answer, also this is a pretty new mobo.
CPU-Z shows my cpu at 1.8ghz @ 9x multiplier, but every few seconds it switches to 1.2ghz @ 6x multiplier. This sounds like a speedstep issue, but I disabled EIST in the BIOS, and all spread spectrum options. In windows power management I set it to Always On. I see a lot of talk about C1E but don't see any option regarding that setting in my BIOS.
Is this normal behavior for the E4300? I'm hesitant to start OC'ing when I'm having issues at stock clock.
Thanks for any ideas.
My setup:
P6N SLI Platinum / E4300 / Scythe Ninja / Antec Trio 650 / 2x1 GB Corsair XMS2 6400 / 2x WD 160gb - RAID 0 / Leadtek 8800gts 640

Quote from: Maesus on 06-March-07, 09:06:11
how about locking it to 6x and ramp up the FSB much higher?
Would there be an advantage to that versus a 333fsb x9 (3ghz) OC? I didn't get the best ram in the world because I wasn't looking for crazy speeds. The PC-6400 Corsair ($160 w/rebate) I have is rated at 5-5-5-18 at 1.8v. I have it at 5-5-5-12-2T at 1.9v. I'm not uber-conversant on memory timings but when I set it on 1T windows crashed immediately. Anandtech mentioned that changing to 1T had little to no real world performance improvements so I can live with it.
Currently I have the fsb at 333 (1333 in BIOS setting) and DRAM at 333 (666 in BIOS) so I have a 1:1 ratio which I understand is preferable. The MSI Dual Core utility reports that my CPU is running about 7 degrees cooler than the System temperature. Is that possible, or do I have a jumper setting mixed up somewhere...

P6N Sli Platinum event viewer error

On my new P6N Sli Platinum mainboard, every time I boot up I get the following error in the event viewer log:
"The ForceWare IP service service failed to start due to the following error:
The system cannot find the path specified. "
I think this has to do with Nvidia network drivers. The network seems to work ok, although I have by default two network controlelrs: one labelled "1394 Net Adapter" and another "NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller". Which of these that handles the actual connection seems to change randomly, but it doesn't seem to affect the performance.
I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2 with all the updates from winupdate.
Does anyone else have the same issue?

Quote from: Isandhlwana on 20-April-07, 21:51:28
On my new P6N Sli Platinum mainboard, every time I boot up I get the following error in the event viewer log:
"The ForceWare IP service service failed to start due to the following error:
The system cannot find the path specified. "
I still get this error in event viewer each time I start up. I went to administrative tools->services and tried to enable the Forceware IP Service manually: system cannot find the path specified. The path box in the service properties is empty.
After googling I found that the service corresponds to the following executable: nsvcip.exe. This file is not found in my system. Is this normal? Does anyone else of you have this file?
Apart from the error message in event viewer my system is functioning perfectly.

P6N SLI Platinum – endless reboot loop. Need help!

P6N SLI Platinum – endless reboot loop. Need help!
Configuration;
Windows XP Pro, SP-2
On old hard drive (Maxtor) I installed in the new case
OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W Power Supply
MSI P6N SLI Platinum
EVGA 256-P2-N550-T2 7600GT
INTEL Dual Core E4400
MEMORY tried two different ones;
GeIL Esoteria 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
Kingston Value Ram 1GB 667MH (of course tried in different slots, stick @ time)
NEC DVD player/burner
Old Maxtor IDE drive W/OS (I have new Seagate serial but won’t install it until I get everything else running.
Computer goes in an endless reboot cycle. First, showing a black screen with small parallel white hash marks. Can pull up Bios but that’s as far as I can go. At first, I thought the high end Geil memory might be at fault. But after installing the more generic Kingston I get the same looping.
In Bios, it is reading all my hardware; CPU, memory, hard drives, temperatures, voltages, etc. the only thing it doesn’t specifically show is the Evga video card. I don’t know if there is really any place it would show except in Hardware Profile.
One other thing, Bios is showing the NEC as the Primary IDE Master and the Maxtor as the Secondary IDE master (although I have tried it both ways). I generally like to boot first from my DVD then go to hard drive.
I don’t know where to go from here. Can anyone give me some suggestions?
Thanks,
Clickman

two replies;
To Vernonion
With JUST new Sata drive & DVD I get message "Reboot & select proper boot device or insert boot media in selected boot device & press a key" in other words, install windows. No flashing anything.
To Maesus
Yes, have tried boot sequence every which way . DVD functions as I ran Memtest for 4 hours last night.
I think I will use the information mentioned in the 3 links V gave me earlier to "repair" the OS on my old Maxtor drive. It is partitioned with OS in one area by itself, docs in another partition, programs another, etc. so I wouldn't lose any work. At worst, I might have to reinstall some programs. At best, I accomplish what I set out to do.
Many thanks,
Clickman

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