P6n sli platinum NB fan -included or not

hello all
First post
 -been viewing the site for ocing tips and such, currently running my p6n sli platinum with a e4300 @ 2.8ghz on stock colling and stock voltage, thanks to all that posted about bios settings etc. But thats neither here nor there.
But heres my problem:
So i didnt get a NB fan in my mobo box.. but a google on p6n sli platinum northbridge fan hits TONS of resellers and reviews of the board all saying its in there.
*and by tons i mean almost every result for pages..
so i called msi and they told me they dont make one.. then they said they make it for other boards and it fits this one, but it doesnt come with the board.. then they told me they did make them but dont stock them.. then they told me its an optional item and it can be ordered for 7$ plus shipping. So i told them that all the review sites and resellers say its there and they just said, no, its option and its 7$ plus shipping and that is their "final answer".
So... Did everyone get a fan or not? i realy want to know whats going on, newegg states that its part of the accessories, but since it doesnt list it as an accessory on msis official msicomputer.com site they tell me its not included and they know that its not because its not on the site. (for the record none of their boards list removable nb fans on the site and i know of a few that DO have it) I just want to see whats going on here.
So to all p6n sli platinum owners: Did you get a NB fan in your retail package?
Thanks

Quote from: ugzz on 09-June-07, 01:54:19
hello all
First post
 -been viewing the site for ocing tips and such, currently running my p6n sli platinum with a e4300 @ 2.8ghz on stock colling and stock voltage, thanks to all that posted about bios settings etc. But thats neither here nor there.
But heres my problem:
So i didnt get a NB fan in my mobo box.. but a google on p6n sli platinum northbridge fan hits TONS of resellers and reviews of the board all saying its in there.
*and by tons i mean almost every result for pages..
so i called msi and they told me they dont make one.. then they said they make it for other boards and it fits this one, but it doesnt come with the board.. then they told me they did make them but dont stock them.. then they told me its an optional item and it can be ordered for 7$ plus shipping. So i told them that all the review sites and resellers say its there and they just said, no, its option and its 7$ plus shipping and that is their "final answer".
So... Did everyone get a fan or not? i realy want to know whats going on, newegg states that its part of the accessories, but since it doesnt list it as an accessory on msis official msicomputer.com site they tell me its not included and they know that its not because its not on the site. (for the record none of their boards list removable nb fans on the site and i know of a few that DO have it) I just want to see whats going on here.
So to all p6n sli platinum owners: Did you get a NB fan in your retail package?
Thanks
Mine came with one. I used it for a day and yanked it. It is WAY too loud - like louder than my case fan, CPU fan and GPU fan combined. You'd have to be stone cold deaf for me to recommend this cooler. It really is that bad.

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  • MSI P6N Sli Platinum won't Post with E8500

    Ok, I've been pulling my hair out on this one off and on for a couple of weeks, and I figured I'd finally just post here and hope for some advice.
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    Hey guys.. I think I checked everything, but want to make sure.
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    Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 27-February-08, 04:18:29
    The options usually change with the CPU that is installed.
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