P7N Diamond board won't post

I have a P7N Diamond board. About 3 weeks ago, I had more and more trouble with the computer. I thought it was a memory problem, because it failed Memtest. I initially had Mushkin memory and bought Crucial, specifically compatible with the board. It worked briefly but then failed to boot. I tried the Mushkin memory again and had some smoke, the memory got hot, and after that the board failed to post. Thinking it was a problem with the motherboard, I sent it in and received an RMA today.
I set up the new board with the Crucial memory that I had. I am fairly certain it is wired correctly, but the system fails to post, though it does turn on with all the fans. Where should I go from here? I have a Intel Core 2 Duo processor, E8400 processor, Zalman fan, compatible Crucial 2 x 2 memory.

Please provide links to the datasheets or manufacturer's product sites for your memory modules.
For futher testing:
Please use one memory stick only (!) and make sure it is not running faster the DDR2-800. The voltage should not exceed 1.95V for now and Spread Spectrum should be disabled.
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although it said on the memory that it was 2.0/2.1 volts.
Such standards do not exist. DDR2-1000 or DDR2-1066 at that voltage level is an overclocking/overvoltaged rating. Such settings are not necessarely stable.
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After that, the computer would recognize the speed on it as 800, although both the memory and the board say they support 1066.
DDR2-800 modules that need to be overclocked and overvolted to meet the promised ratings, are not real DDR2-1066 MHz modules (7-7-7-x @1.8V). With such sticks, stability problems are always lurking behind the corner.

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Need advice on P7N Diamond boards

I have posted in these forums about my problems with the P7N Diamond boards. My 3rd one just died. It seems to have in the last 2 cases anyway, been a memory problem. The first 2, I used Mushkin 1067 memory, 2 x 2, which I have found on your boards is an overclocked 800. I ran it at a 900 or thereabouts speed, because the computer would not boot on higher settings. That board kept freezing, and in an attempt to fix that, I bought Crucial memory which is a true 1067 at 7-7-7-18. When I was experimenting with fixing the 2nd board, and had the Mushkin in, the board started smoking at the 3rd memory slot, and that is why I sent it in for an RMA.
Last week, I received the RMA. I tried the Crucial memory in it. What happened then is chronicled on these boards. They had me disable Spread Spectrum, set the NB voltage to 1.30 and set the speed to 666(7) with the timing 5-5-5-18. These settings caused crashes on booting. Then I called Crucial, who told me to take the timings out and set the FSB and the memory clock to a ratio of 5:4. which had to be done by setting the clock speeds on manual. Then I still had crashes on booting, but not quite so fast. Also the board never detected the 2nd stick of memory in any but the first slot. I then tried it with one stick in all of the slots. It would not even post except with the first slot. I tried to run memtest86 on it but at that time it stopped posting at all and I am now sending it for my 3rd RMA (first one was from NewEgg at the very beginning.)
So... I will now be on my 4th board. The question I have is, what should I do about the memory to enhance my chances of this one actually working? Should I buy new memory and if so, what? What settings should I put in the BIOS initially? The forums seem to like OCZ Reaper, but when I look at the specs, they are also overclocked 800, which is also bad according to the forums. My patience with this is completely at an end (and way tired of reinstalling the CPU fan and all those little motherboard screws.)

CPU stepping is basically a way to tell what manufacturing improvement has been incorporated to a specific CPU model, i.e. E8400 (C0), E8400 (E0). The E8400 (C0) is supported with bios v1.0. The E8400 (E0) is not. It needs bios v1.2. The 'stepping' can be found using CPU-Z utility. If you don't have it, here is the link: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
I wouldn't make the 'SLI' designation on the OCZ's that important (or the MoBo's 'SLI' designation), unless your running two GPU cards in SLI mode?
The OCZ Reapers you talk about, aren't OC'd until you OC them. They are 800's with manufacturer permission 'to OC' with increased V's., different timings, & speed. Basically, they were factory tested under a controlled environment to operate at 1066 yada yada (OC'd).
As far as the bios goes, set 'Optimized Defaults', & bios will probably set the modules correctly without having to mess around.
The truth be known, the performance gains between 800 & 1066 isn't all that massive. Only about 2 to 4 FPS I believe. If your E8400 is an E0 stepping, & the board has bios v1.0, it needs to be updated to v1.2 before it can be expected to perform correctly.

Help! Board won't POST anymore.

You guys are my last resort before I return this wretched board and get an Asus or Gigabyte. :(
Been having many of the probs listed here (cold boot probs, slave drive etc) and I've already done about 4 system restores to keep things stable.
The board was booting fine last night. Today I installed everything in a fancy new Lian Li case (P61) and it no longer POSTS! Just sits there with a blank screen making steady 'beeps'.
Thought it might have been the graphics card, but installed an other one with the same prob. None of the hardware has changed since last night, merely been housed in a new case, so I don't get why it'd stop POSTing.
Had a look at the DBracket lights and they seem to equate to the 'keyboard initialisation'. I tried it with another keyboard though, and without. Get the same lights everytime with a blank screen.
How can it suddenly have a problem with keyboard initialisation out of the blue? Did the board somehow get damaged when it got moved? The instruction for the case are the usual sucky sheet of paper that's hard to understand, but everything is plugged in correctly.
Oh and it doesn't even wait for the Power Switch to be pressed on the case, it starts up as soon as I switch it on from the PSU. Very annoying! Never did that before. Could it be the case?
Removing PCI cards, unplugging hard drives etc, none of it makes any difference
I'm back on my XP2600+ at the moment and unless I fix this, the MSI is gonna have to go back to the shop.
Anyone know how to fix?
Thanx.
System:
MSI K8N Neo Plantinum Socket 754
AMD64 3000+
2x512 Corsair DDR333
Nvidia Geforce4 4000 MMX AGP8x 128Mb
Tagan480 PSU
Seagate Barracuda 120gig (master, ide1)
Hitatchi 160gig (slave ide1)
Sata Seagate 200gig (sata1)
Pioneer DVD-RW (master ide2)
PCI Usb card

Hello there . . . First off try some of these things, a different PowerSupply, clear the BIOS w/ CMOS jumper. And remember like it even says in the manual, the NFORCE-based chipsets are easily knocked out by ESD or any static. Which is actually quite easy to do by accident when moving or changing out hardware.
Try this since you have two sticks of ram, take out both and switch them around, but make sure that a stick no matter which one, stays into DIMM-1.
And of course, whenever changing out hardware, always discharge yourself by touching the metal of your case, which is a GROUND, and will kill off the static you may carry. And again never do anything with power on. And when changing out hardware always remove the power cord from your power supply and wait about 5 - 10 secs. for the power supply to discharge the standby power it has contained.
Never work on the insides of a machine with loose clothing or jewelery, as again it's a static issue, and try not to work on a machine in your living room where you have cloth furniture or while standing on carpet.
I had a NFORCE2 Ultra board and then I upgraded to the newer AMD64 MSI K8N NFORCE3 and have never had a problem out of either board. It made me a little nervous when reading what MSI posted in the manual about NFORCE chipset and (ESD) and that a board sometimes will fail to post, specially when people change out memory sticks, while the standby power is on (meaning you've turned off the machine, but still some power in the supply, cause it's not totally off) and this isn't just with NFORCE though, most boards are sensitive to this, cause the CMOS is sometimes cached into whatever stick of ram is on DIMM-1 and if you remove it while the standby power is on, and you may get a static-discharge without you even knowing of seeing it, when and if this occurs, the board in some situations, will failt to POST because the static charge, how ever slight, may disrupt the BIOS Chip's information, wiping it clean or corrupting the little bit of data it has, again making the board fail to POST.
So I would advise precaution in the future. I would prob. just RMA the board or exchage it if you purchased from a local shop. And next time just be more careful.
And when installing everything into a new case, never hook everything up @ once, and then boot it up. Always one thing at a time. Install what you need to boot. 1st PowerSuppy, Board, CPU, Fan, RAM, VideoCard....then once you've seen it boot fine.....then turn completely off, again turn not just the machine off, but also your powersupply, and then connect up your HD, CDROM, etc. and boot again. NEVER RUSH, OR DO IT ALL AT ONCE. ALWAYS TAKE IT ONE THING AT A TIME.

P7N Diamond (still) won't boot with USB Keyboard

Hey everyone, I have my box up and successfully running now, thanks for your help. I have 2 remaining issues. The motherboard will not post with my USB Saitek Eclipse I keyboard plugged in alone, I have to plug in a PS2 to get it through Post, then switch it out.
Also, almost every time I cold boot, I get a message that says, "Operating System Not Found." When I reboot, it works fine.
I've read through previous posts, but nothing seems to directly address my issues. Do you think the keyboard thing is a wait-for-BIOS-updates fix? Has anyone else successfully booted with a USB Keyboard on a P7N?

Quote from: h311b0y on 01-May-08, 08:19:09
Hey everyone, I have my box up and successfully running now, thanks for your help. I have 2 remaining issues. The motherboard will not post with my USB Saitek Eclipse I keyboard plugged in alone, I have to plug in a PS2 to get it through Post, then switch it out.
Also, almost every time I cold boot, I get a message that says, "Operating System Not Found." When I reboot, it works fine.
I've read through previous posts, but nothing seems to directly address my issues. Do you think the keyboard thing is a wait-for-BIOS-updates fix? Has anyone else successfully booted with a USB Keyboard on a P7N?
The only time I had an "OS not found" error was when bios for some odd reason set first boot priority to the usb port on my dell monitor as well as other usb devices before my boot drive. I changed boot priority and it went away.

P7N Platinum, E8400 won't Post

Just built it. Get to logo, no further. Is this same problem I am reading about over and over. "CPU not supported, must update bios or return to seller"? If so, I am going back to Asus. Please help!

First of all, provide FULL and ACCURATE system specs. Read the >>Posting Guide<< to get an idea of what we need to know.
Check the BIOS Chip of your Board to find out the factory BIOS-Version. There is a little sticker on the chip that will tell you the current Version. The Chip is located here:
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E8400
Please tell us which revision of the E8400 you are using. There are currently two different revisions: E8400 C0 and E8400 E0. You can tell which one you have by taking a look at the sSpec number:
E8400, C0 --> sSpec# = SLAPL
E8400, E0 --> sSpec# = SLB9J
The sSpec number can be found in the following places (on the CPU itself or on the sticker on the original Intel CPU Box:
Note that the E8400/E0 (sSec#=SLB9J ) requires BIOS v1.2 [A7380IMS.120] to be supported. If you have BIOS v1.0 [A7380IMS.100] or BIOS v1.1 [A7380IMS.110], you need to update your BIOS first. Check the CPU-Support list here, it is quite clear about this and you should have consulted it before putting the parts together:
http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=prodcpu2&prod_no=1373&maincat_no=1&orderby=cpu_name%20ASC#menu
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If so, I am going back to Asus.
And? Do you think that will change the fact that Intel(!) has done changes to the E8400/E0-Revision that require a MicroCode Update that can only be applied in a new BIOS Release? Do you think MSI is the only manufacturer that had to release a BIOS Update to support this new you processor revision? If you think so, good luck with another board.

Brand new board won't post?!

I just took the MSI K8N Neo Platium out the box and I keep getting the following the error...
Award BootBlock v 1.0
BIOS ROM checksum error
Dectecting Floppy Drive A media
Insert System Disk and Press Enter

Try reseting the Bios with the jumper as per the manual?

Board won't post with Ram in slot 2

My msi z77ia-e53 build responds like no ram is in the system (CPU Just cycles on and off every few seconds) if there is ram in the second slot, both ram sticks are good, I Found another someone else who had the same issue on an older topic but no answer to it

By the description, it sounds very possible that there are bent pin(s) in the CPU socket. Other causes can involve the CPU cooler installation, errant standoffs underneath the mainboard, or a faulty DIMM slot.

P7N Diamond v1.0

Hi all, It's been a while I'm trying to find out what is happening here, I have:
P7N Diamond
Q9650 @3.0GHz
Corsair CM2X2048-6400C5 (2Gbx2)
MSI 8800GTS x 2
The first time I assembly the computer I got stacked at the middle of POST, but it was a BIOS issue, the BIOS version 1.0 do not support Q9650, so I Upgraded it to the 1.4 version and the computer started.
But I still have an issue. Some times when I shut down the computer, and then start up again, the computer just does not start.
If I do a random number of “Shut Down/Start Up” tries, the computer starts and works ok. It generally won't take more than 4 tries.
There is a detail about this issue, when the computer do not start, the light of HDD keeps on but no Power light if up
I already tried:
Using one Video Card (I tried 3 different video cards)
Changing memory (2 different brands, Corsair and Supertalent)
Changing Power supply
If anyone can help I’ll be very greatfull
Regards,
Sebastian.

Quote from: adihot2008 on 31-August-09, 15:06:09
Its not a PSU problem. P7N Diamond boards have this problem after updating bios to either 1.3 or 1.4.
One possible solution is to clear the CMOS properly by disconnecting the PSU from supply and using the reset button on the I/O panel of the mobo
Clear the CMOS and start the system. you should be having no problems afterwards.
or else there is another way around it
From what i have observed from my system before clearing CMOS properly,the other best work around is to give the system a few seconds after the mains is switched on before powering the system. It seems the problem only occurs from a cold start so by allowing current to flow through the board for a few seconds and then starting it will make it boot.
If the CMOS clearing doesnt work for you for some reason this fix will work always,give around 3 to 4 seconds time before hitting the power button.You can do trial and error method to get the exact timing
My P7N Diamond boots perfectly with this method.
Hope this works for you
Will agree it seems to be a very common issue now, had the exact problem on my P7N Diamond as well. You can try the new Beta 1.51 bios maybe they have addressed this issue or try what adihot2008 has mentioned as I found that worked whilst I had it.

Can't boot from USB on P7N Diamond

I have BIOS Ver. 1.3 installed on my P7N Diamond board. I used the flashing utility from MSI to install it. Now, to install Ver 1.4, I am using the Forum Flasher. My board will not recognize the USB drive in the F11 Boot Menu or in the BIOS boot selection option. It does show up as USB storage after the memory check along with a USB mouse.I made sure that all USB options in the BIOS were set. I let the Forum Flasher fix my drives to make sure that was done right. The last stick I tried was brand new, never used.
I am running RAID 0+1 on SATA 1 thu 4, SATA 5 + 6 are DVD drives, nothing on the 2 eSATA ports.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

The only time the USB storage appears is during POST. In the BIOS the 4 hard drives used for the RAID are listed, the 2 DVD drives are listed, but no USB storage. In the F11 boot selection it offers the 1st floppy, NVRAID and the 2 DVD drives. The same are offered the boot sequence section of the BIOS options.

P7N Diamond, Bios P07, QX9650, 8GB PC-8500 problem

Read through main fo the topics in this forum, and tried to identify similar problems, but seem not to be successful.
P7N Diamond board, with the nwest beta P07 bios.
QX9650 quad chip,
and patriot PC2-8500 2GB memory sticks.
2x EVGA 88800GTS-512 (G92) video cards.
So first I flashed the new bios, with only 2 memory sticks in 0, 2 slot, I get post with just fail safe settings, and SLI ready memory enable, which the vendor claims these stikcs can do.
I boot, but the CPU bounces around between 6x and 8x.
If I add 2 more memory sticks to come to 8GB total, I crash during boot in Vista 64.
So remove 2 sticks again, and try to play with bios settings to get anything stable, but... nothing.
Any ideas, help.
Thanks much.

It's normal for your speeds to fluctuate. It is speedstep(EIST) in action. It lowers your cpu speed to save power when it isn't doing anything or a light load. You can disable it in your BIOS if you want and it should run full speed at all times.
Can you boot into Vista with 1 video card and be stable?
What power supply are you using? It sounds like you are lacking enough power to run both those cards. Make and Model number for PSU.
You may also need to manually setup your memory timings. DDR2 memory has a top limit and it is PC2-6400. Anything over that limit is overclocking and may need adjusting to get them to run.
Make sure you only have keyboard, mouse, and monitor plugged for testing to help eliminate other issues.
Can you make a signature with all your computer components listed similar to the one I have below. it will help us help you. It's sometimes hard to help when you don't have enough information.
-=Mark=-

P7n Diamond + Q6600 = Reboots over and over

I have a P7n diamond that has been in my system paired with E6850 for a while now and been running no problem. Well I picked up a Q6600 and put it in and now it reboots everytime when it starts to go into windows. No errors or anything.. Just poof and reboot.. Will sit in the bios all day long and temp in bios is 21 to 23 celcius. Anyone have any suggestions for me. I have put all the bios settings on Auto just trying to get the machine to load windows. does the same thing with Windows Vista and Windows 7. Startup screen comes up and churns and right when screen is supposed to switch to windows it reboots... Thanks for all suggestions...
p7n diamond
4gb kingston hyperx
Q6600
PCP&Cooling 750 silencer
Raptor Drives
Oh well nevermind... i went back to the e6850.... After reviewing the forum and all other google searches its evident the q6600 and p7n diamond don't play nice together....

Quote from: gsoutherland on 07-February-09, 01:53:46
I tried that and everything else I could think of. I under no circumstances could get it to get past the vista or windows 7 startup screen. I OC'ed, underclocked, left stock, and anything else you can think of. I finally gave up and went back to my E6850. I'll do my research before I purchase another CPU. After looking around I see a lot of Q6600 users have problems with the P7N Diamond.
One thing I did not try was a different Bios. I'm running v1.2. Do you think that could have been it? And what is the latest bios. I know that 1.2 is the latest official. I saw a 1.23 but saw somewhere it said it was older than 1.2 so I did not download.
Thanks for your suggestions.
Ok I can't stand this beating me.. I'm back with the q6600 and rebooting. no changes helps. has there been cases where a cpu just won't work with a motherboard?? I put the e6850 back in and boots fines. I put the q6600 in other system boots fine. just will not boot on my p7n diamond board. I've flashed to latest beta 1.3 bios. I've reset cmos.. i've done everything i know to do and no luck....

P7N Diamond / MS-7510 -- Flashed my BIOS & now S.O.L.?

Long, excruciating story put short: I bought an MSI MS-7510 motherboard which is OEM for an Acer Aspire G7700 machine. It's based on the retail MSI P7N Diamond board, but a few minor differences. Anyway, the BIOS that came with it was an Acer BIOS, as reported by the BIOS itself, but an MSI Live Update utility reported that the BIOS in there was the 1.4 (an MSI P7N Diamond BIOS). Not knowing which was actually in there, I tried to install a more current Acer BIOS for that board. The Acer flash utility informed me that my board ID was incorrect, so I went on to flash using the MSI P7N Diamond BIOS, v1.4. After successfully flashing via DOS, the computer does not post, it doesn't do anything when I start it. The hard drives, MB, CD-ROMs, PSU, and case fans all get power, but my monitor gets no feed from the video card, nothing. It seems to me that I put the wrong BIOS in there. Am I S.O.L.? Is there any way to flash the BIOS at this point? I'm guessing I can't do anything via USB stick or CD-ROM, as without a proper BIOS, the computer doesn't know what to look for, etc. Is there a hard modification I can do for this board? Jumper pins to reset the BIOS? Anything? I'm stuck here and could really use help!

Sorry to say, but we don't support OEM products on this forum. You need to contact Acer in regards to your problem.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=110544.0
Sorry, but topic locked. :(

MSI P67A-C43 B3 won't POST with Full RAM Installed

Hello all,
I recently purchased the MSI P67A-C43 B3 mainboard as a custom build
and have been having trouble with it. I have 16GB of ram for this board
(4x 4GB) and when I have 8GB installed (slots 1 and 3 filled), it POSTS fine.
When I fill ALL the slots for 16GB total, the board won't POST and just
power cycles ON and OFF and ON and OFF, etc...
I have replaced the memory and the PSU and am about to replace the
mainboard, but wanted to ask if anyone might have a suggestion for
troubleshooting before I do that.
Here's what I'm running on the system:
mainboard: MSI P67A-C43 B3
proc: Intel Core i7-2600K 3.4Ghz Unlocked
proc cooler: Corsair Hydro H80 CPU Liquid Cooler
ram: Corsair High Perform Vengeance 4GB DDR3 1600Mhz2x4 (4 of these)
HDD: OCZ TECHNOLOGY 120GB VERTEX PLUS SSD and Seagate 1TB LP Serial ATA HD 5900/32MB/SATA-3G
CD Drive: Sony Optiarc 24X DVDRW SATA
video: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB 1024MB GDDR5 PCB PCIe
PSU: Thermaltake 750W Modular Power Supply. 80+ Bronze
case: Thermaltake Chaser MK-I Full Tower Gaming Case
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64Bit DVD
Any ideas here would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

OK, had some time to go test your suggestions here
These are the 1.5V Vengeance RAM Modules. Tried installing 2 of the RAM on slots 2 and 4 on their own. System Boots Fine.
Went into the BIOS and changed the voltage applied to the RAM modules from
AUTO to 1.575V. On AUTO it says is applying 1.5V to the 2x 4GB modules.
Installed the full 4x RAM on all slots... and the system just shuts down. Power cycling again.
What do you think here? Bad Motherboard? Can't think of anything else to try... totally stumped!
Thanks!

P7N Diamond voltages

After watching some screenshots from ppl with same board showing CPUID Hardware monitor i have noticed that the VIN5 and VIN6 is higher than mine, and i would like to know if anyone of you know what it is for?=)
VIN5 is at 0.10-0.26V and VIN6 is at 0.17-0.38V
I am thinking that the motherboard does not get what it wants, another thing i have noticed is that the I12V thing in bios is not showing close to 12V at all, its alot lower.
I have no idea if it really matters but i still have alot problem with this computer and i dont want to buy anymore
hardware for testing =)

ok, for me it is not that i want to have the real voltages, i am just curious what you that have a working P7N Diamond board have, if you use the CPUID Hardware Monitor, maybe not accurate but i guess its not more accurate for you than it is for me etc, maybe just a waste of time=)
I have contacted both msi and gigabyte and waiting for their answer, have nothing better to do than trying to figure out things on my own =)
Probably wont get anywhere until tuesday or wednesday, it is just so frustrating when i cant solve my problems like sound crackling, monitor goes blank and graphic corruption on
DXVA(hardware accelerated) videos.
Could be that the motherboard/PSU does not supply enough power to the graphic card, could also be a bad driver but then all drivers are bad that i have tested,
seem to give me less crackling with a slower graphic card.
Got a new bios from msi, but then vista activation failed cause of new hardware, and it did not help me in anyway so flashed back to original.
Well i can always help others while waiting, learn alot of all this troubleshooting reading =)

New build; P7N Diamond won't POST

I ran a few searches and couldn't come up with anything conclusive. Yes, I did read the sticky BIOS error codes and it didn't help. I powered on the PC for the first time, and all I get is a constant beep that never stops. Needless to say the PC doesn't POST. Anyone know what the continuous beep error code is exactly?
All connections have been verified and re-plugged to ensure proper contact. I'm questioning the processor, or the power supply. Any assistance or advice is greatly appreciated.
Specifics below:
P7N Diamond MB
PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750W EPS12V Power Supply
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz 6MB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
MSI NX8800GTS 320M OC GeForce 8800GTS 320MB 320-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card X 2 in a SLI configuration

Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 24-May-08, 03:20:54
Have you tested each video card seperately in the primary PCIE slot?
Have you tested each memory module seperately in all memory slots?
Did you double-check all power connections (especially 4/8-Pin +12V CPU)?
I have checked each video card in the primary slots as well as both in the other blue x16 slot. No change
I have checked each memory stick in each of the slots. No change
Quote from: Fadamor on 24-May-08, 03:56:48
The P7N Diamond uses an 8-pin +12V CPU power connector near the top-rear of the computer. I had to use an extender to get my 8-pin powersupply plug to reach.
All power connectors are indeed plugged in, the 24 pin as well as the 8pin for the CPU. THe board is laying on my desk at the moment in a bare bones config outside the case. The 8pin connector will reach, allbeit barely. I'd just like to see some output before I worry about making the inside of the case neat and tidy.
Keep the suggestions coming please. I'd rather make this work than start RMA-ing various components.

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