P7N Diamond issue

Hi,
Have a P7N Diamond, have a few problems with this m/b(not sure where to post this, think its a bios issue):
- Often get hang-ups, sometimes it returns after a minute...
- Sometimes it looses connection to a Samsung 1TB harddisc, have tried to change it without any change.
- Games doesnt run smoothly... get small and very annoying delays in framerate!!
There is not a hardware issue as you can see bellow!! :-p
At the moment I have the v1.3 bios, have the same issues with older bios...
* Does this m/b have full support for 1TB hdd?
* Does this m/b have the SATA optical drive issue?
Know that the nvidia chipset have some issue with sata optical drives....
* Are there any new vga bios... since I have all msi.... thougt I would be able to update it thrue liveupdate!!!
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
System Model: MS-7510
BIOS: v1.3
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9650 @ 3.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 8GB RAM
VGA: MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB Super OC
Optical Drive: 2 x Sata optical drive (Blueray + DVD-RW)
Drivers: Have lastest version avalable from nvidia
HDD1: ST325062 250GB
HDD2: WDC WD10 01FALS-00J7B 1TB
HDD3: SAMSUNG HD753LJ 750GB
HDD4: Maxtor 6 V250F0 250GB
HDD5: SAMSUNG HD103UJ 1TB

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Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
System Model: MS-7510
BIOS: v1.3
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9650 @ 3.00GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 8GB RAM
VGA: MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280 1GB Super OC
Optical Drive: 2 x Sata optical drive (Blueray + DVD-RW)
Drivers: Have lastest version avalable from nvidia
HDD1: ST325062 250GB
HDD2: WDC WD10 01FALS-00J7B 1TB
HDD3: SAMSUNG HD753LJ 750GB
HDD4: Maxtor 6 V250F0 250GB
HDD5: SAMSUNG HD103UJ 1TB
What PSU are you using to power all that? Please post the brand name, the model name and the current limits (A) for the main voltage rails (12V, 5V and 3.3V).
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Memory: 8GB RAM
What brand/model of RAM are you using? Can you post a link to the manufacturer's product site for these sticks?
Have you tested your system in reduced configuration?
- CPU
- video card
- one stick of RAM
- one hard drive (system hard drive)
- keyboad + mouse
- power connectors
... to see if these issues persist:
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- Often get hang-ups, sometimes it returns after a minute...
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- Games doesnt run smoothly... get small and very annoying delays in framerate!!

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Quote from: Jack t.N. on 18-September-09, 23:46:05
Well, this temperature limit is not defined for the Core Temperatures, but actually for the so-called "TCase" temperature (temperature measured at/in the geometrical center of the CPU's own heatspreader). There is no sensor there, so you can't really measure it anyway.
The limit for the Core Temperatures (TJunction) is much higher (Core Temp should show you the TjMax/TJunction value). It is usually around 95-105°C for a Quad Core processor.
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PS! I do apologize for my bad English as its not my native language.

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Dear,
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I currently have them set at 1066mhz, 2.1V, 5-5-5-15 and they seem pretty stable, the problem is that the machine wont boot from cold like this, i can sit here all day and use it, but if i shut it down then hit the power button the lights come on for a split second and then nothing. The only way to get it to boot is to reach round and turn the PSU off for 5 seconds then turn it on and it will boot first time. This as you can guess is a real pain in the ass.
If i drop them down to 800mhz it boots fine with no issues, but I would really like to figure out why it refuses to boot like this.
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Edit: forgot to say im running beta bios 1.2B1

Quote from: Papamambo on 28-April-09, 00:56:23
Ok.. I have the exact same ram, and I'll tell you what I did.. First off, the P7N Diamond (and I'm assuming the Platinum as well) doesn't give you an option to change tRFC in the cell menu. These sticks need the tRFC to be set to 54. Depending on when you bought your RAM (I bought mine May 08), the sticks may or may not have this change implemented as to whether they FORCE tRFC to 54 clocks. If yours are a bit older, chances are that they do not have this fix implemented. I have been assured by OCZ that all NEW 1066 Reaper RAM now has the SPD adjusted to force tRFC to 54 clocks.
If you think you have an older set of RAM, check out this link - http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36341
Instructions are posted there on how to flash the SPD of your Ram to force tRFC to 54 clocks.
Originally, I couldn't understand why I couldn't get my RAM up to its rated speed. I knew that I would technically be overclocking to get up to 1066 from 800mhz, but every time I changed the speed in the Cell menu I would either get a hard lock or BSOD. Once I flashed the SPD, everything now works tickety-boo - no problems whatsoever. Give it a shot..
Also, just a quick note - you probably won't need to give your ram as much juice after you've flashed the SPD.. I know that they're rated up to 2.1 or 2.2v, but chances are at 1066 with 5-5-5-15, you can get away with 1.9-2.0v
Dude Can u tell me the exact settings u have done in BIOS . And I dont think that my system is really stable with these settings . And what does SPD means ? I am really noob in Overclocking .

Frequent lock ups of my P7N Diamond

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ok i will up the CPU and NB voltages as u specified and lets hope its the end of this problem and i hav disabled the spread spectrum in the bios before only..
well as per the CPU-Z here are the list
From SPD tab
Timings table
Frequency: 200MHz 266MHz 400MHz
CAS#Latency: 3.0 4.0 5.0
RAS# to CAS# 3 4 5
RAS# Precharge: 3 4 5
tRAS: 9 12 18
tRC: 12 16 23
Command Rate: 2T 2T 2T
Voltage: 1.8V 1.8V 1.8V
And from the memory tab
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DRAM Frequency: 400MHz
FSB:DRAM : 5:6
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RAS# Precharge(tRP): 5 clocks
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Hello,
I write fun troubleshooter because I went so far as to try my friends "working for years" Asus P5B-Plus mobo and CPU and RAM and had same results...
Specs: P7n Diamond - OCZ GameXstream 700W PSU - E8400 Wolfdale - G.Skill 4gb RAM (2x2) - MSI NX8800GT 512mb OC - 2 Sata WD HDDs - 2 Sata DVD drives
The Story:
I get my supplies from newegg and built it, it turns on (gives CMOS Checksum Error) but then enters bios..... then I get random freeze-ups (even in bios) that were fixed by manually setting my ram to its default timings and low end of voltage. This fixes it enough to allow me to install Vista 64 business. I get everything running happily and play HL2/TF2 games for about a week before it starts locking up more and more frequently. my USB mouse would die in game and the mouse lights/laser would turn off before the system just froze about 10 secs later... So I decide it could be a Vista issue and so I setup a dual-boot with XP-32. It seems to fix the freeze-ups before about 5 days later it starts freezing in XP too. I ran memtest for 6+ hours with zero errors (albeit it did give me memtest errors when i used bios auto timings for ram)... During the freeze-up issues I went from bios 1.0 to 1.16 to rule that out..... didnt fix it. It ended up getting to the point where I was freezing before windows XP or Vista even loaded... so I RMA'd the p7n diamond.
Receive my 2nd p7n diamond and got it in.. It boots to Vista before freezing 2min later.. same with XP.. mouse stopped working after even just surfing IE. then it hard locks... one time I did get the (PFN_LIST_CORUPT) BSOD... but its not consistent.. most freeze-ups just hard lock it with no BSOD. I get immediately frustrated and try throwing my friends 4 (1gb) sticks of PNY DDR2-667 in the machine... turn it on and it doesnt boot to bios at all/nor give any beep codes.. re-throw my DDR2-800 back in and again.. not even an attempt to show bios - i turn it on and nothing comes up on the monitor (the monitor just flashes waiting for a signal).. So I try more troubleshooting. Disconnected EVERYTHING but one stick of ram and the graphics card... same result - no post.... swapped ram, even tried taking the graphics card out.. no beep codes... I then assume its a bad CPU and try my friends working-for-years E6300 core-duo chip.... same result-no bios..
Then I figure - it has to be 2 bad p7n diamond mobos.. So i try my friends Asus P5b-Plus with my E8400 CPU... turn it on.. SAME result!! no bios or beep codes.. i'm thinking now bad PSU and its frying Mobos on contact?? Odd because both p7n diamonds gave me perfect on-board LED readouts when plugged in and turned on (and on standby).. All peripheral cards lit-up fine... and my friends p5b-plus also had the red light showing it was getting power.... Is it possible a PSU that worked for 2 weeks relative fine all of a sudden fry things?
so I go to best buy and buy an Antec 650W PSU to rule it out.. same result! no bios...... the main frustration is I was using the system for about 2 weeks relatively fine and now all of a sudden things seem to "fry" on contact..
Anyway, I RMA'd this p7n diamond, and the OCZ 700W PSU to try new ones... I was just looking for opinions on what could be the problem.. I mean as it looks.. either the PSU was frying motherboards yet still lights their LEDs up.. or my E8400 CPU is ruining the motherboard?? or my RAM went bad after being OK?
some questions - when I get my new setup - im going to plug it in paranoidly...... Can I power up the system with no RAM sticks in it at all?? I just want to make sure RAM wasnt causing the mobo to short out? Is it possible the GPU is frying the mobo? Could my Antec 900 case wires be causing this? I feel since I tried so many diff combinations its the one thing thats staying consistent??
Thanks in advance!!
-mike

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P7N Diamond v1.0

Hi all, It's been a while I'm trying to find out what is happening here, I have:
P7N Diamond
Q9650 @3.0GHz
Corsair CM2X2048-6400C5 (2Gbx2)
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The first time I assembly the computer I got stacked at the middle of POST, but it was a BIOS issue, the BIOS version 1.0 do not support Q9650, so I Upgraded it to the 1.4 version and the computer started.
But I still have an issue. Some times when I shut down the computer, and then start up again, the computer just does not start.
If I do a random number of “Shut Down/Start Up” tries, the computer starts and works ok. It generally won't take more than 4 tries.
There is a detail about this issue, when the computer do not start, the light of HDD keeps on but no Power light if up
I already tried:
Using one Video Card (I tried 3 different video cards)
Changing memory (2 different brands, Corsair and Supertalent)
Changing Power supply
If anyone can help I’ll be very greatfull
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Quote from: adihot2008 on 31-August-09, 15:06:09
Its not a PSU problem. P7N Diamond boards have this problem after updating bios to either 1.3 or 1.4.
One possible solution is to clear the CMOS properly by disconnecting the PSU from supply and using the reset button on the I/O panel of the mobo
Clear the CMOS and start the system. you should be having no problems afterwards.
or else there is another way around it
From what i have observed from my system before clearing CMOS properly,the other best work around is to give the system a few seconds after the mains is switched on before powering the system. It seems the problem only occurs from a cold start so by allowing current to flow through the board for a few seconds and then starting it will make it boot.
If the CMOS clearing doesnt work for you for some reason this fix will work always,give around 3 to 4 seconds time before hitting the power button.You can do trial and error method to get the exact timing
My P7N Diamond boots perfectly with this method.
Hope this works for you
Will agree it seems to be a very common issue now, had the exact problem on my P7N Diamond as well. You can try the new Beta 1.51 bios maybe they have addressed this issue or try what adihot2008 has mentioned as I found that worked whilst I had it.

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I have been having various problems with both the RAID and memory speeds in this system. The RAID problems (DEGRADED RAID 5) come and go but my current primary issue is that the system will not run with the memory set at its rated settings:
1066 MHz
5-5-5-15
2.1v
The best I can get it to clock up to is 1000 MHz at which the system will run for about 5 to 10 minutes before locking up. I ran memtest for 2 full cycles at this frequency and no problems were detected (i think it was run at 1000 MHz, it's been a while sorry).
The system is currently running stable at 800 MHz (the speed it sets the memory to on auto). It will also run stable at various points higher up to the 1000 as I mentioned above but since I have never heard of someone running their system anywhere between 800 and 1066 (unless they were overclocking) I figgured it would be most healthy for my system to run at the 800 and no higher until we can get this figured out.
I have seen that this board sometimes sets the wrong automatic voltage on some people's 45nm processors. My x3350 is a 45nm proc but i'm not sure what its voltage is supposed to be, i just left it on automatic... maybe this has something to do with the problem?
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Motherboard: MSI P7N Diamond
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Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
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+1 x WD Caviar RE2 WD1601ABYS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
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3rd gfx card: EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600 GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI
Sound card: MSI P7N Diamond Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme H/W Audio Card (MS-4132) PCI Express x1
Optic drive: LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner LightScribe SATA Model: LH-20A1L-05
Case: Antec P182 Gun Metal Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower w/ 4 120mm tricool fans
Keyboard: Logitech MX3100 Wireless
Mouse: Logitech G7 Lazer Wireless
Dual Monitors: 2 x HannsG HW-191DPB Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD

Hey, thanks guys. Wow it's amazing that nobody had said anything about the 1066 memory to me before (like when i was building the system and throwing together a parts list).
The only problem they could find with my config on eggexpert.com was the motherboard... they said it had problems with the raid but didn't quote or point to any sources so i just did a google search and when i couldn't find anything to back up their problem statement i just blew it off. Guess it's the last time i'll ever make that mistake.
Either way though, MSI says it should work fine. So if it doesn't, shouldn't there be something that could be done? You would also think that I could find someone out there who's WAY smarter than me who has had this same raid problem and figured it out and gotten it to work. I'm sure there's plenty of guys out there who are using this board with a raid 5 as well, so maybe i'm just doing something wrong? I have always had good results with MSI and I really don't think it should have to come down to finding another mobo manufacturer.
Oh, and for anyone who might suggest rma, it's too late for that. Believe me, i would if i could.

Users running the P7N Diamond and QX9650 please weigh in. I need help...

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Issues with both beta's:
1. Cannot cold boot.
2. Logitech G15 acts erratically prior to entering Vista.
Things I have tried:
1. Raising Vcore.
2. Raising NB/SB voltages.
2. Raising FSB Terminator voltage.
Nothing helps. MSI simply told me not to OC and run at stock and that there was no problem. Is there anyone else out there that has this cpu and mb? If so, can you post your experience with it and let me know if there is something I am doing wrong or could try?

Below is the actual transcript that I had with MSI on this issue. As far as they are concerned, I don't need to change the multiplier on my QX9650. (Start reading from the bottom up for the actual order of the conversation)
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MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 Then, there is no problem with the mb.
End User 02/19/2008 There doesn't seem to be any issues with usb while on using the shipping bios, I only see it when I flash to the beta bios'.
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 If the stock bios also has the usb issue then try: Have all USB device connected to the rear USB ports that are build onto the mb and retest with all USB header on the mb be removed from any front USB connections or adapter connections and retest. If all steps have been tried and problem still persists then please kindly refer to our website for manufacturer warranty RMA info/request: http://www.msicomputer.com/support/CustomerS.asp
End User 02/19/2008 No change. I cannot even cold-boot at stock settings with this. Also, it still kills my Logitech G15 keyboard randomly. i have to unplug it and plug it back in to get it to power up, and that is only after I boot into Vista. Back on the shipping bios for now at stock settings. Please, if you would, keep me informed of changes or progress. Thanks.
End User 02/19/2008 Thanks! I will poat back if it helps or not.
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 Beta bios v111 attached to this form.
End User 02/19/2008 Is there any other beta bios' that you have that could help? The P05 didn't work out so well, maybe you have a newer one that I could try? It seems odd that it is only on a cold boot that I have issues and not on warm boots. I am willing to try anything you got at this point!
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 Sorry, but MSI did not see any issue with using QX9650 processor.
End User 02/19/2008 So are you saying that as far as MSI is concerned, there is no issue with the QX9650 and the P7N Diamond motherboard? I am not asking you for advice on hot to OC it, I am asking you if you know of the issue and are looking into it to try and correct it. If you do not think there is an issue and are not going to investigate it, then I will be very disappointed.
MSI Tech. 02/19/2008 If there is no problem with standard bios and no OC then you can refer to other website/forum for OC suggestions or settings. MSI does not provide these setting/suggestions since it can cause damage to the components.
End User 02/19/2008 Also, I am unable to use the Dual Core center, as I am running Vista 64. It does not load properly when using this OS.
End User 02/19/2008 As of now, it boots and runs fine with the shipping bios and no OC. But, why would I have paid such a high premium to get a QX9650, that has an unlocked multiplier, if I cannot use it? Is this strictly an issue with the newer 45nm Intel processors or is it something else? If not being able to use my cpu's unlocked multiplier is "ok", then I may return the board for a refund.
MSI Tech. 02/18/2008 What is the problem when system uses the standard bios and not OC?
End User 02/18/2008 Is there a fix on the way or is it just a problem with my hardware? I have it back on the shipping bios and it is at least cold-booting now, as well as my G15 is working. I upped the NB voltage a hair above auto, maybe this has somethinng to do with it?
MSI Tech. 02/18/2008 Use the standard bios and use software to OC: http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=utility&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1372
End User 02/18/2008 I was way too quick to say everything is OK. I now have cold boot issues aplenty. 9 times out of 10 it will not post on a cold boot, but will warm boot. I have to power off then on real quickly to get it to post at stock speeds. Also, my Logitech G15 started to act erratic with the P05 beta. I am back on the shipping bios until I hear from you.
End User 02/18/2008 Thanks you for the beta. I flashed to it, cleared the cmos and set everything back up and now I have a new problem. Even though I have disabled the EIST function in the bios, it still seems to be on. i am using cpu-z version 1.44.1 to monitor the multiplier and it randomly shifts between whatever I set it to and 6. It is even doing it when the system is loaded, ie playing games. Please, help!
MSI Tech. 02/18/2008 Beta bios attached to this form.
End User 02/18/2008 Everything is stable 100%. But, on my QX9650, I set the multiplier to 10X to run at 10x333=3.33ghz. It was fine until this morning. I turned the computer on and it would not post. I powered down and repowered it up and it siad the cpu vid had failed or errored, hit F1 to enter setup or F2 to load defaults. I entered setup and the multiplier was set back to 9x. I left it there and am ok now. Is there a beta bios that helps out operations with the newest Intel 45nm processors, such as the QX9650?
I have absolutely no issues in Vista itself, it is 100% stable. It is only on a cold boot that I have serious issues. And yes, I got 3 in a row, went to work for a few hours, then came home and bam! No cold boot. Also, I don't know how comfortable I am raising the vcore that much, as 1.21-1.25 is the normal operating range. 1.3625 is aweful high. Now, with the 65nm quads, that is more in the range of what would be needed, but no way should it be necessary to pushh this QX9650 to a meeger 3.33ghz. As far as temps go, I have the processor watercooled, so no worries there. I am away from home now until Saturday morning, so I can't test anything until the weekend.
Thanks alot for the responses!
Shawn

BIOS Post Error Beeps on P7N Diamond

Hello. I have had this board for a few days now. I was playing a windows game and got a BSOD after a few minutes. The PC rebooted and I noticed the BIOS Post beeps were different. Before this there was just one long beep, which my research tells me that everything is ok. Now when I boot up I get 3 beeps ... 1 long, followed by 2 short. I researched this as well and found the following in my situation. According to AMI BIOS Beep Codes:
1 long, 2 short - Failure in video system An error was encountered in the video BIOS ROM, or a horizontal retrace failure has been encountered.
I'm not sure what this means exactly. It suggests 2 possible errors. Does this mean my video card is bad (8800GTS 512MB)? I have no idea what the second possible error ... retrace failure ... means. I am hoping that you might shed some light on this. Much appreciated.
My setup:
P7N Diamond
E8400
4x1GB Transcend PC2-8400 @ 1066 5-5-5-15
500GB Seagate 7200.10
500Gb Seagate 7200.11
X-Fi by MSI
MSI NX8800GTS 512MB
Thermaltake Toughpower 700W
Thermaltake Big Typhoon CPU Cooler
MS USB Mouse + MS USB Keyboard
LG DVD Reader + LG DVD Writer + Lightscribe

Quote from: loonym on 06-March-08, 08:58:24
I also get the faint short beeps after the initial louder long beep but I never associated this with usb devices or really attached any significance to it.
UPDATE: Ram MEMTEST86+ for 8 hours - no errors.
Replaced the USB keyboard connector with normal keyboard - and using a single tethered USB mouse - get 1 beep on startup.
Put in USB keyboard - get two beeps on startup.
Put in USB remote wireless mouse and get 3 beeps on startup....
Conclusion: Beeps seem to be USB related not error related.
Sierra2 below- the office deskietop being refurbished...
Added USB extension cable to link to the Dell Screen; and then connected a other couple of UBS devices to the three open ports on the board and one to the Screen [Screen is not USD2 - other ports are USB2]
Apacer MultiCard Reader
Wireless Mouse
Wireless Keyboad and
an extra USB [tethered] mouse.
All was fine until I added the 5th USB device - and then thought it was just missing the mouse driver - but on reboot - heard a few more beeps [didnt listen that closely post midnight] and got various stops eventually getting through to WIN. Then it went bellyup unstable and kept rebooting - unpredictably and intermittently but within 5 to 10 min of each windows adventure.
Removed all but the wireless keboard and the tethered mouse - and it has settled down - but am now getting three short beeps at the start. In setting this up yesterday - no beeps at all with a USB mouse and standard keyboard connector. Sound at start is maybe one beep and two short ones or three short ones - neither of us listening can tell. I guess I need to hook up the case speaker as the board speaker is pretty small.
AMI BIOS beeps diagnostix says it is likely a faulty RAM error on 2 or 3 beeps
But now, seeing this about the P7N Diamond, I am beginning to wonder if it is a USB related issue. Maybe too many USB devices. P4M900 has 2 x 2ports. Just wondering if adding more than 4 USD devices really cause unstability?? Will run MEMTEST86+ on the RAM this evening to check. Totally wierd- especially for a supposedly stable and simple board... Thanks for any ideas... k2

Another P7N Diamond that cannot install XP

Current setup:
- MSI P7N Diamond motherboard
- OCZ P6400 2 X 2gb Dimms (4gb total)
- PNY nVidia GeForce 9600 GT Verto (512mb) video card
- brand new "green" 650 watt power supply
- 2 X 750gb SATA IDE Seagate drives
- Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.66 processor
XP installation starts off normally by creating partition and copying files to it. Then comes the first reboot and the XP screen with the floating line appears. As soon as it hits the first graphical screen, the mouse cursor appears and functions (moving the mouse moves the cursor), about 2 seconds into that, system reboots. After the reboot, it comes back to the first graphical screen after the windows floating line and says "Setup is being restarted......" and the reboot is continual.
- I've tried testing the RAM without issues.
- I've tried using both 1 stick of RAM and both sticks of RAM
- I tried using another known good 1gb stick of RAM
- I have tried with and without the RAID configuration
- I've tried using standard IDE as well as SATA IDE drives
- I've tried installing XP Home and XP Pro (both legit versions)
- I've tried using V.1.0, V1.1 and V.1.2.1 BETA bios
I've currently got a trouble ticket open with MSI tech support, but they tell me to swap RAM and do memory tests (both previously done!).
Nothing that I have done can get XP installed on this seutp and I am just plain frustrated. I'd *REALLY* appreciate any help or suggestions to get this running.
Thanks.
Jerry

Slipstream CD created... trying install now. Nope. Still does the same thing. >:(
Alrighty, let's see if I can do this right:
# CPU brand, model and speed
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 @ 2.66
# Motherboard model
MSI P7N Diamond, LGA 775, 780LSI, DDR2, M-7510,
# Memory brand, type/speed, size, number of sticks (eg 2x Crucial 512mb DDR400)
2 X OCZ Vista Upgrade Edition Dual Channel (2048mb ea... 4096mb total)
Memory Speed:    800MHz PC6400
Memory CAS Latency:    5-6-6-15
Memory Type:    Dual Channel DDR2
# Video card brand, chipset type, memory size (eg Gainward Geforce 6800GS 512mb AGP)
PNY GeForce nVidia 9600GT
Core speed 650MHz
Memory clock of 1800MHz.
Shader clock is 1625MHz
57.5GB/s of memory bandwidth along with 64 stream processors.
PCI Express 2.0 compliant and backwards compatible with current PCI Express slots as well.
# Hard drive(s) brand, size, type, speed (eg 2x Seagate 200gb SATA150)
2 X Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 750GB Hard Drive - 7200RPM, 32MB, SATA-300
Spindle Speed (RPM):    7200
Average Seek (msec):    <9.3
Average Latency (msec):    4.16
Data Transfer Rate on Serial ATA:    Up to 3000 Mb/sec
Nonrecoverable Read Errors per Bits Read:    1 in 10E14
Temperature, Operating (°C):    5 to 60
Temperature, Nonoperating (°C):    -40 to 70
Shock, Operating: 2 msec (Gs):    63
Shock, Nonoperating: 2 msec (Gs):    300
# Any other peripheral cards and devices
The MSI X-Fi audio card
# Operating system and version (eg Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition SP2)
Windows XP with SP3 slipstreamed onto the CD
# Power Supply Unit brand and output in watts and DC output (amps)
Antec model EA-650
650 W max
The symptom:
Windows XP install CD, boots properly, installs files properly... on first reboot to graphical screen it reboots after saying "Setup is restarting......" It will do this continually.
What have I done to date:
- Reduced setup to 1 2GB memory stick... no change
- Done extensive memory checks with 1 and 2 sticks of OCZ RAM and Platinum 1GB RAM all without errors... no change
- Changed to known good RAM (1 GB of Platinum DDR2 @ 533mhz)... no change
- Tried installs with and without the RAID configuration (RAID 1)... no change
- Tried using 250gb standard IDE as well as 750gb SATA IDE drives (all known good or 100% new drives)... no change
- Tried installing XP Home and XP Pro (both legit versions)... no change
- Tried using V.1.0, V1.1 and V.1.2.1 BETA bios... no change
- Tried install using Windows XP Pro with SP3 slipstreamed into the disk image... no change
- Tried using both the Bios Failsafe settings and Optimized Default settings... no change
- Tried the SPREAD SPECTRUM settings both enabled and disabled... no change
Question, could it be a bios setting that could unlock this mystery from hell for me somehow?
Thanks for the help so far Aaron.

Problems with P7N Diamond

Very Sorry if i upset you!
MSI P7N Diamond Ver: 1.1 with Bios 1.3
2x1 Gb Corsair xms2 PC2 6400 tested and works on same board but not this one.
2x500Gb Samsung F1
Win XP Pro SP3
cannot update bios to 1.4 from 1.3
Tried USB method, CD, Floppy even safe mode command prompt.....disabled everything but the drives with bios files( usb,cd,floppy) but it still it finds the disabled Hardisk and boots into windows.
Memory will not work in Dual channel...sometimes it boots but nothing on screen.
Single channel boots most times but after trying USB or CD method it sometimes does not boot into windows.
Tried online too but only comes up with 1.3 bios
MSI support is none existent or impossible to get any sense out of them...after repeating my name and email address several times over the telephone i am still not sure if they understood.
I have filled in the online report system 3 times over the last two weeks but no reply and nothing active in box although it says report complete after submitting.
Have tried all the ways stated on updating bios.
I have updated many bios's on various boards, ASUS, ASrock, Aopen, Biostar etc no problems! Even modded bios on Asus boards.

Quote from: stooper on 04-September-09, 06:04:06
Against my better judgment, I'm going to reply to this. By your own admission, the motherboard was functioning fine in single channel mode. Your issue only occurred under attempts to operate in dual channel mode. Considering the real world benefits of dual channel memory are arguably negligible, one could remark it's such a minor technical detail, that nobody need b infatuated over it.
Indeed, again by your own admission, the problems were resolved after you disassembled and reassembled the system with different cables. Since your arrival, you've been quick to hijack other threads, spew frustration and venom over your issue, and vent agitation against the trouble and bother with all this crap you've had to endure. Yet, all along, it seems there really was no defect at all on MSI's part.
You've taken the time to customize your profile avatar with a nice Leeds United animation, but can't be trifled to actually learn about how your equipment operates and how to troubleshoot and optimize it. So it's so long and farewell and thanks for nothing, hmph! That's quite a remarkable attitude.
Good luck with your future Asus adventures. Perhaps you'll be more satisfied with that choice, perhaps not. My sense is people with unhappy, wretched personalities will have the odds against them.
Oh, and please don't fool yourself that you have so much more of a life to live and real work to get done than anyone else here. You know nothing about the forum members here, but your demeanor reveals the type of life you have. I, for one, don't envy you one bit.
Take a look at reviews of this Motherboard you will see that most people come to the same opinion as myself.
As for poor support it seems it is a bit hit and miss where ever you go. Some get good support some bad all from the same company.
I have a nice life living in the English countryside with lots of friends, a dog, three cats and nice girlfriend of many years. A massive garden full of fruit trees, fields full of horses both front and back and good neighbours.
Thanks for your good wishes and have a nice week-end your self.

New Need Sink needed for MSI P7N Diamond nForce 780i SLi (Socket 775)

Hi Guys,
I've been having a problem with my machine where it will be working away as and then suddenly restart. I haven't been able to pin point the problem as it can happen regardless of applications or load thats on the machine. I've also run a couple of app's to check the RAM and its fine. The only thing I've been noticing is that the 4 cores of my Q6600 seem to be running a bit hot. On average on Idle there running between 45-55oc. Does this seem normal? I'm thinking that the cpu might be over heating when I'm running apps. I've seen one of the cores up around 68oc when under a bit of load. I'm using the stock heat sink at the moment and would like to cool things down it see if that helps. Can anyone recommend something suitable for my motherbroad.
Thanks
Garret

Quote from: Garret C on 15-October-09, 17:22:47
Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz (1066FSB)
MSI P7N Diamond nForce 780i SLi (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard with Free Creative X-FI Card
Thermaltake ToughPower 750W Modular Power Supply
My Q6600 (also G0/SLACR but don't know what you mean by "Pro") is OC'd to 3.4GHz and has had no problems running stable. Highest temps during OCCT/Linpack and LinX/Linpack peak at 80C 1st/2nd cores - 76 C 3rd/4th cores. Other tests (e.g. Prime95 small FFTs) run much cooler. I've run 2hr+ linpack tests with no errors, so I don't think you need to worry about your temps yet.
However, may I suggest that you check into is your power supply, in particular the modular connections. I had the ToughPower 750W Modular before upgrading to PCP&C. I noticed that the ToughPower's modular connections had a tendency to be just a tad loose. They wouldn't dislodge but they had a little bit of play. I could jiggle them ever so slightly while they were connected. As a result, the CPU power cable (8-pin/4-pin) would cause a restart upon the slightest disturbance or sensation. I've since discovered that modular connectors also affect the efficiency, power noise levels, and overall performance of a PSU. All in all, I plan to avoid modular connectors entirely going forward. Many newer cases have excellent cable management features and even old-style cases can be cleaned up with a little planning and effort. So the modular cabling advantages don't offset the severe disadvantages. Even if your problem isn't due to the PSU, it's something I'd recommend considering replacing.
Good luck. Hope all the suggestions are able to help you nail down and resolve your issue.

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