P7N Diamond (Ms-7510) - Possible chipset heat problem

Hi,
Have a P7N Diamond (Ms-7510) with possible chipset heat problem.
After looking around I have seen the platic plugs that keep the chipset heatpike in-place are broken.
Would like to replace them but dont know what size and type to get.
Does anyone know?
Or perhaps there is some other issue with it?
Have seen a few people who clams there is alot of issues with this m/b...
I am a bit stubborn and want to get some life in to this thing! ;-)
FYI I have posted a few others post about this m/b before here...
Thx
//Christoffer

Try checking at hobby shop or hardware store and get some nylon screws of size needed instead. Just measure the hole size or take one of the broken pins with you so you can get the right size. Length shouldn't be much of a problem because if you have get something longer than needed they are relatively easy to cut.
P7N was one of the not so good MBs back then. P45 Platinum was one of the very best though and if you could get your hands on one of them for a good price you would be very happy with it. I know several people with new rigs but their mainstay backups are P45 Plats.

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P7N Diamond (MS-7510 - V1.0) - Don't start

Hi.
I just buy this motherboard and I can't strat my PC.
My configuration is:
MSI p7N Diamond - MSI 7510 - Version 1.0
Intel Core 2 Quad 8300
Ram Corsair 2x2Gb XMS2-6400
nVidia 8600GT (ASUS)
PSU TECHSOLO TP-600 (600W)
I put together all pieces but the computer won't start (I didn't heat the beep from boot and my monitor remain without signal)
I change the video card with an ATI 5770, the memory with another one (1 GB, Corsair XMS2 - 6400), I change the slot for video card,
I unplugged all cables (read it on other topic) but nothing to do.
Any help ?
Regards

Quote from: Svet on 29-March-10, 18:05:41
you checked that the CPU is properly installed too?
and no bented pins on the CPU socket?
Sure, I tested this (on 2 processors)
Quote from: Svet on 29-March-10, 18:05:41
Try with 1 memory stick only in the 1st dimm close to the CPU socket.
Also do >>Clear CMOS Guide<< with power cord removed[/color]
I try with 3 types of memory, on 1st dimm (2 Corsair and 1 Geil)...
I clear the CMOS and nothing...
NOTHING...
I think I call the dealer to replace the motherboard ...

P7N Diamond / MS-7510 -- Flashed my BIOS & now S.O.L.?

Long, excruciating story put short: I bought an MSI MS-7510 motherboard which is OEM for an Acer Aspire G7700 machine. It's based on the retail MSI P7N Diamond board, but a few minor differences. Anyway, the BIOS that came with it was an Acer BIOS, as reported by the BIOS itself, but an MSI Live Update utility reported that the BIOS in there was the 1.4 (an MSI P7N Diamond BIOS). Not knowing which was actually in there, I tried to install a more current Acer BIOS for that board. The Acer flash utility informed me that my board ID was incorrect, so I went on to flash using the MSI P7N Diamond BIOS, v1.4. After successfully flashing via DOS, the computer does not post, it doesn't do anything when I start it. The hard drives, MB, CD-ROMs, PSU, and case fans all get power, but my monitor gets no feed from the video card, nothing. It seems to me that I put the wrong BIOS in there. Am I S.O.L.? Is there any way to flash the BIOS at this point? I'm guessing I can't do anything via USB stick or CD-ROM, as without a proper BIOS, the computer doesn't know what to look for, etc. Is there a hard modification I can do for this board? Jumper pins to reset the BIOS? Anything? I'm stuck here and could really use help!

Sorry to say, but we don't support OEM products on this forum. You need to contact Acer in regards to your problem.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=110544.0
Sorry, but topic locked. :(

Does P7N Diamond (MS-7510) support Intel's Virtualization?

Hi,
I plan on installing Windows 7 soon, and would like to use the Windows XP mode / new Virtual PC.
I've run the Intel Processor ID utility, which says that my Q6600 supports Virtualization, however I cannot find any information as to whether my P7N Diamond supports it or not (although I can't find the option in the BIOS).
Does anyone know if the P7N Diamond supports Virtualization, and if so, which version of the BIOS I will need?
Thanks,
Adam

Hi,
I'm a french User and I would like to use XenServer with my P7N SLI Platinium + E8400.
The Install works fine (so virtualization should be ok) but pc reboot at first boot.
The safemode no work more with "Kernel Panic not syncing : attempted to skill init".
My bios is 7380v13 (v1.3 111908) and I would try beta bios 1.4 to resolve my problem but I don't know where to find it.
Could I update my bios with P7N SLI which is 7380v22 ?
http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=searchresult&keywords=ms-7380&table=download
Thanks a lot for your response.

P7N Diamond 9800GX2 Quad SLI additional GPU problem, pls help!

Hi all,
So I have an interesting dilemma:
I'm running my system with dual watercooled 9800gx2's in Quad SLI (both in blue pciex16 2.0 slots).
The issue is that I cannot install an additional GPU in the white or yellow slots for my touchscreen monitor/additional output.
What happens exactly is that the screen doesn't turn on (in any dvi or hdmi output)/pc doesn't boot up (the output led on the primary gx2 doesn't turn blue as it should).
I'm running the latest nonbeta release bios. I unplug, clear all power, reset cmos, reset all cards, check plugs, etc. when installing the third card.
I've tried both a 8800gt, and a radeon 2400xt I had laying around. I've tried with the gx2's in quad sli, not in quad sli, and not in sli at all (meaning one gx2 became two cards) with the same effect. The 8800gt will only work when one gx2 is installed.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

If you are trying to get 2 x GX2 + 1 x 8800GT or R2400XT, I'm not sure if it is actually capable in terms of SLI.
Don't quote me if I'm wrong, however, in my point of view, GX2 = SLi with 2 Cores back to back, so having 2 GX2s will means Quad SLi already, which is already the maximum of SLi capability. As such, I do not think that you can add 1 more card to run in parallel to the GX2s since SLI is already being maxed out.
I think you should consult nVidia on this as well.

P7N Diamond / Q6600 / HELP!

Intro
Good Afternoon. I have searched everywhere for information regarding the issues I’m having and haven’t found anything, so I though id ask here. About a year ago I built two computers using the exact same parts (one for me and the other for a friend of mine). My friends build has been running perfect since day one, with no issues or errors. Mine however, has been a problem since I turned it on. I don’t want to post a confusing wall of text, but want to give as many details as possible, so here goes.
Problems
1)   Will not run with optimised settings since first install - Just restarts before starting windows. (Only boots ok when FSB is set to 1333)
2)   Looping Restarts – After powering on it will restart itself between 3-6 times after boot screen, then successfully boots onto windows ok.
3)   Crashing to Desktop/BSOD’s – Mainly runs ok when on desktop/applications/internet. Games are the issue. (Fixed some errors by replacing CMOS Battery. Main BSOD error “Hardware Error – Please contact your manufacturer”
Previous Tests Done
1) Cleared BIOS settings
2) Stripped it down to barebone (outside case), and removed everything It didn’t need to run.
3) Tried changing RAM - Dual/Single Channel – One stick at a time.
4) Memtest, Futuremark, Prime95, GPU-Z, CPU-Z and others.
*Currently have processor on RMA as it died (Have signal to monitor from Graphics Card, but no boot, so testing on the fly is impossible*
NOTE: All drivers are up-to-date, Computer Temperatures are more than low enough
*BIOS changes/setup*
Advanced BIOS Features:
   * CPU Feature
   o Execute Bit Support = disabled
   o Set Limit CPUID maxVal to 3 = disabled
   * Chipset Feature
   o HPET = disabled
Cell Menu:
   * D.O.T = disabled
   * Intel EIST = enabled
   * SLI Ready Memory = enabled
   * System Clock Mode = Manual
   o FSB Clock = 1333
   o DRAM Clock = 800
   * Adjust CPU Ration = 9
   * Advanced DRAM configuration
   o DRAM Timing Mode = Auto
   * Adjust PCI-E Frequency = 100
   * Auto disable DRAM/PCI Frequency = enabled
   * CPU Voltage = Auto
   * DRAM Voltage = Auto
   * NB Voltage = Auto
   * SB Voltage = Auto
   * FSB Terminator = Auto
   * --- All other voltages are left on "Auto" ---
   * Spread Spectrum = disabled
Computer Specs:
Case: Thermaltake Armour+ VA3000
MB: MSI P7N Diamond
MS-7510 Ver1.0 (Rev1.0) (A7510-NMS100) (Bios Ver: 1.4)
HDD: 1 X Western Digital 500GB - SATA (WD500DAAKS)
GPU: 1 X BFG GTX-280OC PCI-E
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - 2.4GHZ/8M/1066/05A (SLACR)
CPU FAN:Zalman CNPS9500 AM2
MEMORY: Corsair Dominator-XMS2-PC8500 1066Mhz DDR2 – 2.1v
OTHER CARDS: Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio (Free with Motherboard)
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64Bit – SP1
PSU: Hiper Type-M SLI 1000w
*Air Cooling: 5 x Internal Fans, 9 including CPU/GPU/PSU/RAM
PSU IMG:
Additional Information:
As mentioned earlier, my Q6600 is in the process of RMA so can’t really do any testing with Bios or anything else. Another thing… When on the phone to Intel’s Technicians. They said that due to the board only having 1.8v DIMM’s, they said because my RAM was 2.1v, it is those that are causing all my issues. In relation to the RAM spec on the listed computer configuration, could anyone confirm that? As I asked Corsair before the build and they said it would be fine.
I hope I’ve given all the required details, needed for a conclusion to my problems or even a guess.
Overall, Thankyou for reading. Any help/advice is much appreciated.

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1) Will not run with optimised settings since first install - Just restarts before starting windows. (Only boots ok when FSB is set to 1333)
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o FSB Clock = 1333
Mh, did you mistype something, or are you talking about overclocking when you mention "optimised settings"? I mean: FSB 1333 is already higher than the native FSB Speed of a Q6600 (=266 MHz or 1066 MT/s effectively). Can you explain again what you mean? Because if you really overclocked the FSB/CPU to 333 MHz FSB CLock Speed (and higher) all your problems may simply be the symptoms of non-stable overclocking settings (which is nothing unusual).
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MEMORY: Corsair Dominator-XMS2-PC8500 1066Mhz DDR2 – 2.1v
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Another thing… When on the phone to Intel’s Technicians. They said that due to the board only having 1.8v DIMM’s, they said because my RAM was 2.1v, it is those that are causing all my issues. In relation to the RAM spec on the listed computer configuration, could anyone confirm that?
Yes and no. The native speed of your modules is DDR2-800 @1.8V +/- 0.1V (JEDEC Standard) which means that such a setting is compliant with the industry specifications for DDR2 Memory and should pose no stability risk to the system (given that none of the modules are faulty).
DDR2-1066 on the other hand is an OC rating that requires you to raise the voltage to 2.1V and thereby above industry specifications. Stability problems @DDR2-1066//2.1V are not unusual. So in that perspective, the stuff the Intel Technicians pointed out to you is absolutely correct.

P7N Diamond - Problems with different things

Hi, n0id here.
I have recently bought a computer in parts (from different web shops).
Yesterday I finally got the processor and was able to build the computer, so I started building the computer.
After about an hour of mounting the parts, I decided it was finished, so I powered it on and watched it boot.
The first thing I noticed was that if my USB Keyboard was plugged in, POST would freeze at "Initializing USB Devices".
I figured it was only temporarily, so I switched to a PS/2 Keyboard, which helped.
The next thing that happened was the BIOS was not able to find my Hard Drive (SATA). I was wondering if because the motherboard support SATAII if SATA drives wheren't compatible. I opened the case and saw that the SATA cable wasn't plugged in properly. So after putting it back in properly, I booted the computer again.
So, now that POST was running OK and BIOS found all my components, I decided to install Windows XP.
After about a minute of reading the cd (windows initializes the installation program in DOS) it stopped reading, and the computer freezed. Finally, It got to the point where I can partition the HDD. But the computer would always reboot at this point. I haven't figured out why yet.
So I connected the HD to my old computer and installed windows here. That worked.
I reconnected the HD to the new computer and after windows loaded, I got a blue screen and the computer would reboot again.
So I decided to remove some of the components. I removed one RAM module, the soundcard (Creative XFI Gamer) and unplugged the 120mm back fan. At this point I was able to format the drive and install windows without a problem.
So I decided to insert the components again, but when I then started the computer, I didn't get a picture on the monitor. I tried with a different monitor and with a different graphics card, neither of which made a difference.
At that point I went to bed because I had already spent seven hours trying to figure things out and it had gotten very late.
So now I am here asking for any guidance.
My computer specs are:
MSI P7N Diamond motherboard,
2x 1Gb Kingston 1066 Memory modules running at 1.8v,
Geforce 7900GS,
Creative X-Fi Gamer soundcard,
Intel Q6600 G0 @ 2.4Ghz,
Thanks for any help.

Hello again.
I am trying to overclock my Q6600.
Everytime the FSB is over 267mhz (2.4ghz CPU Clock) I get a BSOD: "IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL".
Then it's dumping the memory and restarting.
When Windows starts up again, the FSB is back at 267mhz.
I am using the application MSI Dual Core Center, that followed with my motherboard.
I noticed in this application that memory voltage was set to 1.9v. The memory modules I bought are 1.8v because when I bought the MSI P7N Diamond, it said it only supported 1.8v memory. aww :S
Anyway, my full specs are:
Intel Q6600 (G0 stepping) - 2.4ghz
MSI P7N Diamon (7510) Mainboard
1x 1GB Kingston (KVR1066D2N7K2/2G) memory modules, 1.8v, 1066Mhz,
Antec NeoPower 650 (650W, 3x 12v @ 16A)
GeForce 7900GS
Creative X-Fi Gamer
Win XP Pro, SP2.
I am going to browse around the forums for similiar problems, though I thought I'd post this now.
After browsing the forums I've learned a few things.
My Q6600 has a VID of 1.3250 and the box it came with said that 1.35v is the max. So I have changed the voltage to +0.0250 and was able to clock the CPU to 2.67Ghz without a problem (temps are 33 - 36 celcius on idle.)
My question this time is: even though the box says 1.35v max will I safely be able to set the voltage higher than that?
I would assume that Intel is setting a maximum that is lower than the actual max, just to keep the processor safe. But I do not know stuff like that :P
My target is 3ghz, and if reaching that clock means I need to apply a greater voltage than 1.35v, and it isn't safe; that would totally suck.
edit,
To achieve 3ghz I supplied these settings in the BIOS:
FSB: 1333 Mhz
DRAm: 800 Mhz
EIST: Disabled
Multiplier: x9
Nb voltage: 1.35
FSB Term.: 20
CPU GTL Fef: 5
The cores are currently at 36-38 at idle, compared to 28-32 on stock clock.
I will see if I can buy some extra fans to put in the front to blow cool air into the case, and maybe buy a new cpu cooler.
Btw, the vCore is 1.3v (and it's also set to auto in bios).

Stability Problems with P7N Diamond Continues

Big bummer. I've had this system since April, took a month to get it working as the first board I ordered was bad, this one seems to be a bum board. I've came here and a few other places, but help has been kind of hard to find.
Here's what I got:
MSI P7N Diamond
Intel QX9650
2x 2GB mushkin DDR2 1066 (XP2-8500) Timings: 5-5-5-15 2T
I have 4 HD's: all are seagate baracudas: 250, 500, 750, 1TB
MSI NX8600GT1GEZ
At this point overclocking is out of the question. All I want is a reliable PC that runs to its specifcations. RMA-ing this board is a last resort as often enough the RMA boards aren't worth a crap anyway, dont know if this is just the case with lower-end boards, but I hate having to wait, and I'm really ticked about the whole thing.
The computer reboots at random, I've found "more stable" configurations, but usually the machine will not stay running for more than 24 hours without a reboot. The most stable configurations are with the official 1.2 BIOS, setting the NB to 1.250 v, CPU Volt: Auto, SB: Auto, DRAM: 2.10, and I have manually set the memory timings: CL: 5, trcd: 5, trp: 5, tras: 15, and Command Rate: 2T. The FSB Speed: 1333, and the DRAM Speed: 1066. Temps are normal, and range from about 100 F at idle, and 120 F load on the CPU.
The voltage on the CPU is on the high side on Auto, the QX9650 can run on as little as .98 v at stock and this board is giving it 1.23 v on auto. The board also tries to set the timings on the memory to 7-7-7-24, which I feel has something to do with it.
I'm not an overclocker, I don't know what all these voltages do, I've only changed settings that have either been reccomended or have a warning setting (ie turn red).
I'll try a beta BIOS if one is available, but I was unaware that this board doesn't fully support the 45-nm CPU's.
There is NOTHING wrong with any of the hardware (except the board perhaps), I've tried other memory, PSU, even RMA the CPU, does the same thing. Everything has been tested, every possibility I can imagine, this problem has been haunting this system for months, and I'm almost to the point of buying a cheap as board that has some credibility that my hardware will work.
This is my most critical computer, I do everything on it, but I didn't buy a $300 motherboard to have these problems, or find that my CPU scores half of what it should when it is running stock, everything on this board is below stock, benchmarks are way below what they should be.
I'm up for some ideas, suggestions, if needed, I'll RMA the board, but it the return board does the same thing, I've lost all my faith in MSI. My last system had a P4M900M2 and it kicked butt, and it's a $50 board! Go figure these boards are worse than imported cars.

Quote from: NovJoe on 27-September-08, 12:40:17
By means of instability, can you describe the symptons of events that happen?
Can I have a list of the PSU models and RAMs models which you have tested?
Have you try the hardware on another board? If you have done so, what are the results?
I have not tried any of my hardware on this board, I have tried other memory on this board, this is the only board I have avialable to me that support LGA775 so I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place on that. The memory I tired, couldn't tell you the exact model, but it was Apacer DDR2 800, and was listed under this board as tested memory, i do remember that much- if that helps any.
As far as overclocking, I was told that overclocking my rig would make it stable, which i feel in this case is a little more than bumping the FSB eitherway. But no this happens under "stock" settings. Orginally with the 1.0 BIOS the machine would sometimes give me a multitude of BSOD, CLOCK_INTERRUPT (A clock inttrupt was not recieved in a timely manner on a secondary processor), DRIVER_IRQ_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL.
Only way to get the machine to run "stable" is to severely underclock, with the FSB at 1137 and DRAM at 1034.
Other things. Benchmarks (SiSoft Sandra Lite 2007)
CPU: Drystone: 39000 MIPS / Whetstone: 28000 MFLOPS
Memory: 7 GB/sec (1066 with correct timings)
Both appear to be under par, CPU particularly, and in the event of tinkering, only see a jump in performance when adjusting the multiplier from 9 to 10.5, which isn't stable, stable enough to run a benchmark. So I'm not sure where the problem is.
This might help, the original thread from back in June.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=117779.0

Problems w/ on-board NVidia RAID + PCI RAID on P7N Diamond

Here's the setup and issue.
I'm booting off of the on-board NVidia RAID on my P7N Diamond. It's RAID5 w/ 4 WD 640GB drives. Works fine.
I've recently pulled a NetCell SyncRAID SR5000 PCI RAID card (runs an adapted RAID3) from an old system where it worked fine and was NOT the boot drive...just storage. Plugged it in the one and only PCI slot on my P7N Diamond. Once it's in, the system will no longer boot.
When the PCI RAID card is not installed, the mobo's BIOS boot menu shows "NVIDIA RAID5 1". As soon as I install the PCI RAID card, the NVidia RAID disappears (no longer an option at all) and is replaced by "IDE:Revolution". At that point the system cannot find any bootable source and fails.
I also get an error message "Not Enough Space to Copy PCI Option ROM".
Unfortunately, MSI's tech support is passing the buck on this one. They're saying:
Then sound like the card and the board sata controller are not compatible. If the card is connected it disable the onboard SATA controller. Once the card install the port is enable again. please check with the card manufacture. thanks
I really find this annoying as the card works just fine in other systems. It's having an issue WITH THIS MOTHERBOARD, but they tell me to go to the card manufacturer. The real problem is NetCell went out of business a few years ago, so they're not available to go to.
So, the quick and dirty is the manufacture of the only motherboard I've had a problem with concerning this card won't help, and the card manufacture cannot be reached. I'm hoping someone here may come up with a workaround.
I'm trying to consolidate down to 1 computer, and I specifically purchased a case and power supply with this RAID migration in mind. I'm gunna be PISSED if I can't use a RAID array I spent close to a grand for (a couple years ago)!

MSI continues to blame the chipset or PCI card for the incompatibility (not the motherboard), saying there's nothing they can do.
Does ANYONE have an idea other than setting aside my RAID array?

P7n Diamond, Corsair TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF, speed problems

I have been having various problems with both the RAID and memory speeds in this system. The RAID problems (DEGRADED RAID 5) come and go but my current primary issue is that the system will not run with the memory set at its rated settings:
1066 MHz
5-5-5-15
2.1v
The best I can get it to clock up to is 1000 MHz at which the system will run for about 5 to 10 minutes before locking up. I ran memtest for 2 full cycles at this frequency and no problems were detected (i think it was run at 1000 MHz, it's been a while sorry).
The system is currently running stable at 800 MHz (the speed it sets the memory to on auto). It will also run stable at various points higher up to the 1000 as I mentioned above but since I have never heard of someone running their system anywhere between 800 and 1066 (unless they were overclocking) I figgured it would be most healthy for my system to run at the 800 and no higher until we can get this figured out.
I have seen that this board sometimes sets the wrong automatic voltage on some people's 45nm processors. My x3350 is a 45nm proc but i'm not sure what its voltage is supposed to be, i just left it on automatic... maybe this has something to do with the problem?
System specs:
OS: Vista Business x64
Motherboard: MSI P7N Diamond
Processor: Intel Xeon X3350 Yorkfield 2.66GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core (45nm)
Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
Memory: Corsair Dominator 4GB (2 x 2GB) TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF
SATA RAID5: 3 x WD Caviar RE WD1600YS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
+1 x WD Caviar RE2 WD1601ABYS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
Misc SATA HD: 1 x WD Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
SLi cards: 2 x MSI NX8800GTS 512M OC (G92) 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
3rd gfx card: EVGA 256-P2-N751-TR GeForce 8600 GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16
PSU: Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI
Sound card: MSI P7N Diamond Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme H/W Audio Card (MS-4132) PCI Express x1
Optic drive: LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner LightScribe SATA Model: LH-20A1L-05
Case: Antec P182 Gun Metal Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower w/ 4 120mm tricool fans
Keyboard: Logitech MX3100 Wireless
Mouse: Logitech G7 Lazer Wireless
Dual Monitors: 2 x HannsG HW-191DPB Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD

Hey, thanks guys. Wow it's amazing that nobody had said anything about the 1066 memory to me before (like when i was building the system and throwing together a parts list).
The only problem they could find with my config on eggexpert.com was the motherboard... they said it had problems with the raid but didn't quote or point to any sources so i just did a google search and when i couldn't find anything to back up their problem statement i just blew it off. Guess it's the last time i'll ever make that mistake.
Either way though, MSI says it should work fine. So if it doesn't, shouldn't there be something that could be done? You would also think that I could find someone out there who's WAY smarter than me who has had this same raid problem and figured it out and gotten it to work. I'm sure there's plenty of guys out there who are using this board with a raid 5 as well, so maybe i'm just doing something wrong? I have always had good results with MSI and I really don't think it should have to come down to finding another mobo manufacturer.
Oh, and for anyone who might suggest rma, it's too late for that. Believe me, i would if i could.

P7N Diamond heat issues

I got my GTX 275 FTW in yesterday and while my rig is pretty screaming now, I'm having some heat issues. My profile contains all my specs and settings. I was hitting temps of up to 66c or so on my CPU when playing Grid at 1920x1080 with full AA/AF turned on yesterday. I've got a Cosmos 1000 case, which is quite silent, but not the best at moving heat, although it has a good number of fans.
I installed Nvidia Precision tool and set my fan to 70%. I'm hoping that helps some. Is there a way to crank up the fans any with the P7N diamond mobo? I've checked speedfan and it shows my CPU fans at 100%. I'm not sure about PSU or case fans and if there is any way to crank them up some. Any advice on maybe cooling it down some? Also, any suggestions on maybe tweaking my bios settings? I had a hell of a time getting the thing to run stable, as I had to OC and crank up the voltage to get the thing to even work out of the box. Thanks!

Quote from: Jack t.N. on 18-September-09, 23:46:05
Well, this temperature limit is not defined for the Core Temperatures, but actually for the so-called "TCase" temperature (temperature measured at/in the geometrical center of the CPU's own heatspreader). There is no sensor there, so you can't really measure it anyway.
The limit for the Core Temperatures (TJunction) is much higher (Core Temp should show you the TjMax/TJunction value). It is usually around 95-105°C for a Quad Core processor.
Thanks for the info. So what would you think is a good "max" Core Temp temperature to go by before worrying? Obviously you would prefer to stay well below the TjMax value I would think... Also, what about GPU temp for a GTX 275 or do you know? I really appreciate the feedback by they way. It helps a lot.
I have also been worried about some of my bios settings, but have been unable to move to a new bios because I'm not sure how to convert the % based values to the more meaningful ones used with later revisions.. but alas that is another topic in and of itself.

Problems with P7N Diamond

Very Sorry if i upset you!
MSI P7N Diamond Ver: 1.1 with Bios 1.3
2x1 Gb Corsair xms2 PC2 6400 tested and works on same board but not this one.
2x500Gb Samsung F1
Win XP Pro SP3
cannot update bios to 1.4 from 1.3
Tried USB method, CD, Floppy even safe mode command prompt.....disabled everything but the drives with bios files( usb,cd,floppy) but it still it finds the disabled Hardisk and boots into windows.
Memory will not work in Dual channel...sometimes it boots but nothing on screen.
Single channel boots most times but after trying USB or CD method it sometimes does not boot into windows.
Tried online too but only comes up with 1.3 bios
MSI support is none existent or impossible to get any sense out of them...after repeating my name and email address several times over the telephone i am still not sure if they understood.
I have filled in the online report system 3 times over the last two weeks but no reply and nothing active in box although it says report complete after submitting.
Have tried all the ways stated on updating bios.
I have updated many bios's on various boards, ASUS, ASrock, Aopen, Biostar etc no problems! Even modded bios on Asus boards.

Quote from: stooper on 04-September-09, 06:04:06
Against my better judgment, I'm going to reply to this. By your own admission, the motherboard was functioning fine in single channel mode. Your issue only occurred under attempts to operate in dual channel mode. Considering the real world benefits of dual channel memory are arguably negligible, one could remark it's such a minor technical detail, that nobody need b infatuated over it.
Indeed, again by your own admission, the problems were resolved after you disassembled and reassembled the system with different cables. Since your arrival, you've been quick to hijack other threads, spew frustration and venom over your issue, and vent agitation against the trouble and bother with all this crap you've had to endure. Yet, all along, it seems there really was no defect at all on MSI's part.
You've taken the time to customize your profile avatar with a nice Leeds United animation, but can't be trifled to actually learn about how your equipment operates and how to troubleshoot and optimize it. So it's so long and farewell and thanks for nothing, hmph! That's quite a remarkable attitude.
Good luck with your future Asus adventures. Perhaps you'll be more satisfied with that choice, perhaps not. My sense is people with unhappy, wretched personalities will have the odds against them.
Oh, and please don't fool yourself that you have so much more of a life to live and real work to get done than anyone else here. You know nothing about the forum members here, but your demeanor reveals the type of life you have. I, for one, don't envy you one bit.
Take a look at reviews of this Motherboard you will see that most people come to the same opinion as myself.
As for poor support it seems it is a bit hit and miss where ever you go. Some get good support some bad all from the same company.
I have a nice life living in the English countryside with lots of friends, a dog, three cats and nice girlfriend of many years. A massive garden full of fruit trees, fields full of horses both front and back and good neighbours.
Thanks for your good wishes and have a nice week-end your self.

HELP! - Voltages for Overclocking Q9450 on the MSI P7N Diamond (780i chipset)

Hey. I fully understand the settings as far as frequencies go, but am a total voltage newb. No matter what I do I cant seem to get a stable vista load up with my voltage settings.
Please help me by providing suggested voltage settings for my hardware.
CPU - Intel Core2Quad Q9450
RAM - 6 gigs of DDR2-800 rated at 2.1V
VIDEO - Dual Nvidia Geforce 8800GT's in SLI
MOBO - MSI P7N Diamond, based off the Nvidia Nforce 780i SLI chipset
My cooling is sufficient, and I have the BIOS version 1.2
I also turned off all of the overclocking not friendly functions, example: spread spectrum, and DOT, ETC....
I am trying to run my CPU at 3.2 GHZ (400 mhz before multiplier)
my settings I want are (as shown in the P7N bios)
System Clock Mode - Manual
FSB clock - 1600
DRAM clock - 800
Please help me by providing the proper voltages for my setup
Everything I need is marked by "???"
CPU Voltage - ???
DRAM Voltage - (already have, its 2.1)
NB voltage - ???
SB voltage - ???
NB Memory reference voltage - ???
DIMM memory reference voltage - ???
Memory terminator voltage - ???
CPU GTL reference voltage - ???
NB GTL reference voltage - ???
FSB terminator voltage - ???
SB sleep mode voltage - ???
PCI Expander PLL voltage - ???
For the sake of you not typing too much, if you specify voltages, any that you do not specify will be assumed to be left at [AUTO]
PLEASE help me by providing some voltages for me, as I have absolutely no clue what to put for them. If you have any questions about my hardware feel free to ask, and any help is GREATLY APPRECIATED

Quote from: nihilkrist on 08-October-08, 08:03:22
adjusting gtl ref. voltages isn't very difficult, but it is probably best to learn the basics first.
So, basically, increase the fsb a little. So, for example, from 1333 to 1400. See if it's stable, if it isn't try bumping up vcore one notch and try again. If not try Northbridge. Then later move on to stuff like the fsb term.
Test stability using prime95, there is a 64-bit multi-core aware version floating around somewhere. Try the ftp server linked to in the "hot use prime95" sticky on here.
Tbh with your OC you shouldn't need to touch any other voltages, or really use the gtl ref settings. What exactly is "sufficient" cooling though? Stock?
*EDIT: on a side note, just so you don't think I'm deliberately being awkward not telling you specific voltages, they wouldn't do you any good. Every cpu/mobo can handle different freq. at different voltages. Also, use cpu-z to check on your actual voltage and make sure you don't raise it beyond 1.3625 (I think that's right, it's 1.36something anyway)
Thanks for the tips. The reason I wanted to jump straight to FSB 1600 is because the MSI p7n is really picky and only likes 1:1 ratios.
My "sufficient cooling" is an aftermarket heatsink, high performance thermal paste, and MASSIVE airflow through my case. If you want specifics, its the Scythe Zipzang
Quote from: AaronYuri on 08-October-08, 09:05:16
CPU Voltage - No one can tell you this.
NB voltage - Depends on what frequency you want
SB voltage - What's your HDD setup?
NB Memory reference voltage - Auto
DIMM memory reference voltage - Auto
Memory terminator voltage - Auto
CPU GTL reference voltage - Depends on speed and other voltages
NB GTL reference voltage - Same as above
FSB terminator voltage - Depends on CPU voltage and CPU/FSB clock speed
SB sleep mode voltage - Auto
PCI Expander PLL voltage - Auto
My recommendation is do some reading. Guessing leads to dead hardware.
6GBs smells like mixing modules... Or do you have 3 modules?
First of all, I already stated the frequencies that I wanted in the top post, and fairly clearly at that.
CPU shouldnt be too hard to figure out, as there are very few to choose from. I'll try to get back to you on that one
I have 5, 7200rpm SATA 3.0 drives. It sometimes runs with only 4, as one is a hot swap.
My ram IS mixed, unfortunately. I'm using 2x 1gig sticks, and 2x 2gig sticks. However, both sets have heatsinks, and are rated at 800mhz, 4-4-4-12, 2t, timings. (2.1v)
I AM running them in dual channel.
If this helps you suggest voltages please do, If not, then I will just have to start trying using nihilkrist's suggestions.

P7N Diamond, Bios P07, QX9650, 8GB PC-8500 problem

Read through main fo the topics in this forum, and tried to identify similar problems, but seem not to be successful.
P7N Diamond board, with the nwest beta P07 bios.
QX9650 quad chip,
and patriot PC2-8500 2GB memory sticks.
2x EVGA 88800GTS-512 (G92) video cards.
So first I flashed the new bios, with only 2 memory sticks in 0, 2 slot, I get post with just fail safe settings, and SLI ready memory enable, which the vendor claims these stikcs can do.
I boot, but the CPU bounces around between 6x and 8x.
If I add 2 more memory sticks to come to 8GB total, I crash during boot in Vista 64.
So remove 2 sticks again, and try to play with bios settings to get anything stable, but... nothing.
Any ideas, help.
Thanks much.

It's normal for your speeds to fluctuate. It is speedstep(EIST) in action. It lowers your cpu speed to save power when it isn't doing anything or a light load. You can disable it in your BIOS if you want and it should run full speed at all times.
Can you boot into Vista with 1 video card and be stable?
What power supply are you using? It sounds like you are lacking enough power to run both those cards. Make and Model number for PSU.
You may also need to manually setup your memory timings. DDR2 memory has a top limit and it is PC2-6400. Anything over that limit is overclocking and may need adjusting to get them to run.
Make sure you only have keyboard, mouse, and monitor plugged for testing to help eliminate other issues.
Can you make a signature with all your computer components listed similar to the one I have below. it will help us help you. It's sometimes hard to help when you don't have enough information.
-=Mark=-

P7N Diamond first boot problems!

Hey guys
I have just installed my new MSI P7N Diamond mobo into my computer, but the thing won't boot !
All the stuff i had in my system worked fine with the old mobo, so it should also run fine here, but sadly it doesn't :/
Here's the specs:
E8500
MSI P7N Diamond
2x2 gb Mushkin Redline
320Gb seagate HDD
2x8800GT
I have tried to reset the CMOS and taking the batterie out, no succes..
Please help !
/Razbojnik
PS. Merry Christmas ^^

Well, I have sent my GFX to RMA, I think that was the problem.
I tried to use the second gfx as my primary card, but it wouldn't boot, so I thought it was broke..
The strange thing was that it worked fine with my old motherboard (Asus P5N32-E SLI)..
Still haven't got any info on my RMA status, but I believe I'll have it back again in a week or two..
While I'm writing here, I should point out, or acctually ask a question.. I had some system freezes and some BSOD (about 5 times in the last month).. I think the BSOD thing is cleared and that it was a Vista thing, but my system stille freezes sometimes when I watch movies, or play games on my com.. Still haven't found the cause :/

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