P7N Diamond problem

I'm having problems with all bioses for this motherboard.    I have a Promise TX4650 SATA RAID Card (most recent firmware) in RAID 5 with 3 drives. With the shipped bios of the MSI board, on POST during the Promise card scan for drives it freezes if *any* usb devices are plugged in, including just a secondary hub with no devices. If I unplug the devices, its fine. No BIOS settings, such as Legacy USB, etc, seem to affect it.
I just updated the MB bios last night, no more usb causing promise card scanning problems anymore, many usb devices plugged in and scan completes fine. However, now I have a few other problems. My ubuntu linux installation boots fine, but the ethernet is now messed up. Instead of two ethernet ports, I get one, and the first one "gets renamed to the second one" (i.e. eth0 renamed to eth1), eth0 then says no device present. Plugging into the second port I get internet back, but losing a port is strange.
Second, I have dual boot, when booting windows the bootup is painfully slow. The fade in of the windows splash screen shortly after bootup takes about 5-6 seconds...it fails to bootup after 20 mins (I gave up twice).
I tried all bioses, even went back to version 1, I still have the same problems...however, funny enough, my promise card still scans fine back under version 1 with usb devices plugged in. I dont get it, version 1 was shipped with my motherboard, how did reflashing it solve the scanning problem? Sounds like my flash was bad to begin with.
I am an expert user, been flashing motherboards for years, ...hell, I design cpu boards and peripheral cards! 
I am going to reboot now and try a slew of more BIOS options.

ok. After messing a lot with the BIOS settings I have everything working again. Windows is booting fast, and my network is back. Also, still curious, I dont have to unplug all usb devices during POST even though I am back on v1 bios. The problem seemed to hang around "Legacy USB support" must be on. I dont need legacy usb support, but it fixed the slow boot problem and ethernet ports.
loonym: I havnt run wintune yet, but I will and post the results. Now that it works, it seems to be fast. Its RAID5, not supposed to be fake RAID, but it still requires a driver on linux and windows to install. My other server RAID card was 600$, had read/write cache, and still required a driver too, so I guess its normal. I remember 6 years ago though, I had a RAID card that didnt need drivers.
I never thought a voltage change as you suggested would make a difference. I suppose if there is a lot of load or accumulated capacitance on that rail. If I have any problems again, I will try it. I just got everything working, but I would still like to work on the performance tuning. ex, I bought 1GHz RAM, but it is only detected as 800MHz.
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    Hello again.
    I am trying to overclock my Q6600.
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    Then it's dumping the memory and restarting.
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    I am using the application MSI Dual Core Center, that followed with my motherboard.
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    Intel Q6600 (G0 stepping) - 2.4ghz
    MSI P7N Diamon (7510) Mainboard
    1x 1GB Kingston (KVR1066D2N7K2/2G) memory modules, 1.8v, 1066Mhz,
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    My question this time is: even though the box says 1.35v max will I safely be able to set the voltage higher than that?
    I would assume that Intel is setting a maximum that is lower than the actual max, just to keep the processor safe. But I do not know stuff like that :P
    My target is 3ghz, and if reaching that clock means I need to apply a greater voltage than 1.35v, and it isn't safe; that would totally suck.
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    Multiplier: x9
    Nb voltage: 1.35
    FSB Term.: 20
    CPU GTL Fef: 5
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    I will see if I can buy some extra fans to put in the front to blow cool air into the case, and maybe buy a new cpu cooler.
    Btw, the vCore is 1.3v (and it's also set to auto in bios).

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  • P7n Diamond, Corsair TWIN2X4096-8500C5DF, speed problems

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  • Stability Problems with P7N Diamond Continues

    Big bummer. I've had this system since April, took a month to get it working as the first board I ordered was bad, this one seems to be a bum board. I've came here and a few other places, but help has been kind of hard to find.
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    Quote from: NovJoe on 27-September-08, 12:40:17
    By means of instability, can you describe the symptons of events that happen?
    Can I have a list of the PSU models and RAMs models which you have tested?
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  • Problems with P7N Diamond

    Very Sorry if i upset you!
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    Quote from: stooper on 04-September-09, 06:04:06
    Against my better judgment, I'm going to reply to this.  By your own admission, the motherboard was functioning fine in single channel mode.  Your issue only occurred under attempts to operate in dual channel mode.  Considering the real world benefits of dual channel memory are arguably negligible, one could remark it's such a minor technical detail, that nobody need b infatuated over it.
    Indeed, again by your own admission, the problems were resolved after you disassembled and reassembled the system with different cables.  Since your arrival, you've been quick to hijack other threads, spew frustration and venom over your issue, and vent agitation against the trouble and bother with all this crap you've had to endure.  Yet, all along, it seems there really was no defect at all on MSI's part.
    You've taken the time to customize your profile avatar with a nice Leeds United animation, but can't be trifled to actually learn about how your equipment operates and how to troubleshoot and optimize it.  So it's so long and farewell and thanks for nothing, hmph!  That's quite a remarkable attitude.
    Good luck with your future Asus adventures.  Perhaps you'll be more satisfied with that choice, perhaps not.  My sense is people with unhappy, wretched personalities will have the odds against them. 
    Oh, and please don't fool yourself that you have so much more of a life to live and real work to get done than anyone else here.  You know nothing about the forum members here, but your demeanor reveals the type of life you have.  I, for one, don't envy you one bit.
    Take a look at reviews of this Motherboard you will see that most people come to the same opinion as myself.
    As for poor support it seems it is a bit hit and miss where ever you go. Some get good support some bad all from the same company.
    I have a nice life living in the English countryside with lots of friends, a dog, three cats and nice girlfriend of many years. A massive garden full of fruit trees, fields full of horses both front and back and good neighbours.
    Thanks for your good wishes and have a nice week-end your self.

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    Hey guys
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  • P7N Diamond (Ms-7510) - Possible chipset heat problem

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     Try checking at hobby shop or hardware store and get some nylon screws of size needed instead. Just measure the hole size or take one of the broken pins with you so you can get the right size. Length shouldn't be much of a problem because if you have get something longer than needed they are relatively easy to cut.
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  • P7N Diamond RAM Problems

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    Quote
    Is it important to have an FSB:DRAM Ratio of 1:1 ?
    No, not at all.
    Quote
    How much  difference is between 667 and 800 Mhz ?
    DDR2-800 will, of course, be faster.  Only a couple of percent, but definately noticeable in benchmarks.
    DDR2-800 is usually not a problem.  However, the fact that your are using four modules puts a lot of stress on the memory controller and on the memory bus in general.  That is why it sometimes takes slight voltage bump to get things stable.  As I said earlier, 1.95V should be enough.  Perhaps 1.9V already is.

  • P7N Diamond NB GTLref problems

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    General
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    Size         1024 MBytes
    Max bandwidth      PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
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    Data width      64 bits
    Correction      None
    Nominal Voltage      1.80 Volts
    EPP         no
    XMP         no
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    RAS# Precharge      3   4   5   
    TRAS         9   12   18   
    TRC         12   16   23   
    DIMM #2
    General
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    Module format      Regular UDIMM
    Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
    Size         1024 MBytes
    Max bandwidth      PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
    Part number      KHX8500D2/1GN     
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    Manufacturing date   Week 11/Year 08
    Attributes
    Number of banks      2
    Data width      64 bits
    Correction      None
    Nominal Voltage      1.80 Volts
    EPP         yes (3 profiles)
    XMP         no
    Timings table
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    CAS#         3.0   4.0   5.0   
    RAS# to CAS# delay   3   4   5   
    RAS# Precharge      3   4   5   
    TRAS         9   12   18   
    TRC         12   16   23   
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    tCL         5.0 clocks
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    tRP         6 clocks (9.50 ns)
    tRAS         15 clocks (28.00 ns)
    EPP profile 2 (abbreviated)
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    Address Command Rate   2T
    Cycle time      2.500 ns (400.0 MHz)
    tCL         4.0 clocks
    tRCD         4 clocks (10.00 ns)
    tRP         4 clocks (10.00 ns)
    tRAS         13 clocks (32.00 ns)
    EPP profile 3 (abbreviated)
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    Address Command Rate   2T
    Cycle time      3.000 ns (333.3 MHz)
    tCL         3.0 clocks
    tRCD         3 clocks (9.00 ns)
    tRP         3 clocks (9.00 ns)
    tRAS         10 clocks (30.00 ns)
    DIMM #3
    General
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    Module format      Regular UDIMM
    Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
    Size         1024 MBytes
    Max bandwidth      PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
    Part number      KTC1G-UDIMM
    Serial number      AA249C51
    Manufacturing date   Week 10/Year 08
    Attributes
    Number of banks      2
    Data width      64 bits
    Correction      None
    Nominal Voltage      1.80 Volts
    EPP         no
    XMP         no
    Timings table
    Frequency (MHz)      200   266   400   
    CAS#         3.0   4.0   5.0   
    RAS# to CAS# delay   3   4   5   
    RAS# Precharge      3   4   5   
    TRAS         9   12   18   
    TRC         12   16   23   
    DIMM #4
    General
    Memory type      DDR2
    Module format      Regular UDIMM
    Manufacturer (ID)   Kingston (7F98000000000000)
    Size         1024 MBytes
    Max bandwidth      PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
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    Serial number      8D31BC02
    Manufacturing date   Week 11/Year 08
    Attributes
    Number of banks      2
    Data width      64 bits
    Correction      None
    Nominal Voltage      1.80 Volts
    EPP         yes (3 profiles)
    XMP         no
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    RAS# to CAS# delay   3   4   5   
    RAS# Precharge      3   4   5   
    TRAS         9   12   18   
    TRC         12   16   23   
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    Address Command Rate   2T
    Cycle time      1.875 ns (533.3 MHz)
    tCL         5.0 clocks
    tRCD         6 clocks (9.50 ns)
    tRP         6 clocks (9.50 ns)
    tRAS         15 clocks (28.00 ns)
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    Address Command Rate   2T
    Cycle time      2.500 ns (400.0 MHz)
    tCL         4.0 clocks
    tRCD         4 clocks (10.00 ns)
    tRP         4 clocks (10.00 ns)
    tRAS         13 clocks (32.00 ns)
    EPP profile 3 (abbreviated)
    Voltage level      2.200 Volts
    Address Command Rate   2T
    Cycle time      3.000 ns (333.3 MHz)
    tCL         3.0 clocks
    tRCD         3 clocks (9.00 ns)
    tRP         3 clocks (9.00 ns)
    tRAS         10 clocks (30.00 ns)

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