P7n diamond+Q6600 overclocking not stable

hi folks
im currently trying to overclock my Q6600 to 3.6 but for some reason its not stable..tried dierent voltages and still crash after 5m with OCCT,does anyone know some good setup or ideas to make this work?
by the way here are my voltages for now:
fsb clock 1600
dram clock 800
cpu v 0.22500
dram v 2.10
nb v 1.450
sb v 1.550
cpu gtl 0.850
fsb term 1.245

Hi smatos. Could you give us the settings & voltages you have tried so far, & what has been your highest stable OC & settings? In bios Cell Menu, do you have 'Spread Spectrum' disabled?
What type CPU cooler do you have? Do you have any auxilliary cooling for the Northbridge? On my P7N D., NB heat, & a FSB hole at 1600 +/- 30, was it's biggest obstacle. To relieve the NB heat, the heatsink was removed & reseated with AS5 thermal compound, & a spot cooler put in place. Substantial case air flow is also critical in an aggressive OC.
In this section of the forum, there are several threads OC'ing the P7N D. & the Q6600. There may be some good tips & info in them that may be of help as well. Here's a couple links;
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=123206.0 & https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=123868.0

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P7N Diamond / Q6600 / HELP!

Intro
Good Afternoon. I have searched everywhere for information regarding the issues I’m having and haven’t found anything, so I though id ask here. About a year ago I built two computers using the exact same parts (one for me and the other for a friend of mine). My friends build has been running perfect since day one, with no issues or errors. Mine however, has been a problem since I turned it on. I don’t want to post a confusing wall of text, but want to give as many details as possible, so here goes.
Problems
1)   Will not run with optimised settings since first install - Just restarts before starting windows. (Only boots ok when FSB is set to 1333)
2)   Looping Restarts – After powering on it will restart itself between 3-6 times after boot screen, then successfully boots onto windows ok.
3)   Crashing to Desktop/BSOD’s – Mainly runs ok when on desktop/applications/internet. Games are the issue. (Fixed some errors by replacing CMOS Battery. Main BSOD error “Hardware Error – Please contact your manufacturer”
Previous Tests Done
1) Cleared BIOS settings
2) Stripped it down to barebone (outside case), and removed everything It didn’t need to run.
3) Tried changing RAM - Dual/Single Channel – One stick at a time.
4) Memtest, Futuremark, Prime95, GPU-Z, CPU-Z and others.
*Currently have processor on RMA as it died (Have signal to monitor from Graphics Card, but no boot, so testing on the fly is impossible*
NOTE: All drivers are up-to-date, Computer Temperatures are more than low enough
*BIOS changes/setup*
Advanced BIOS Features:
   * CPU Feature
   o Execute Bit Support = disabled
   o Set Limit CPUID maxVal to 3 = disabled
   * Chipset Feature
   o HPET = disabled
Cell Menu:
   * D.O.T = disabled
   * Intel EIST = enabled
   * SLI Ready Memory = enabled
   * System Clock Mode = Manual
   o FSB Clock = 1333
   o DRAM Clock = 800
   * Adjust CPU Ration = 9
   * Advanced DRAM configuration
   o DRAM Timing Mode = Auto
   * Adjust PCI-E Frequency = 100
   * Auto disable DRAM/PCI Frequency = enabled
   * CPU Voltage = Auto
   * DRAM Voltage = Auto
   * NB Voltage = Auto
   * SB Voltage = Auto
   * FSB Terminator = Auto
   * --- All other voltages are left on "Auto" ---
   * Spread Spectrum = disabled
Computer Specs:
Case: Thermaltake Armour+ VA3000
MB: MSI P7N Diamond
MS-7510 Ver1.0 (Rev1.0) (A7510-NMS100) (Bios Ver: 1.4)
HDD: 1 X Western Digital 500GB - SATA (WD500DAAKS)
GPU: 1 X BFG GTX-280OC PCI-E
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 - 2.4GHZ/8M/1066/05A (SLACR)
CPU FAN:Zalman CNPS9500 AM2
MEMORY: Corsair Dominator-XMS2-PC8500 1066Mhz DDR2 – 2.1v
OTHER CARDS: Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio (Free with Motherboard)
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64Bit – SP1
PSU: Hiper Type-M SLI 1000w
*Air Cooling: 5 x Internal Fans, 9 including CPU/GPU/PSU/RAM
PSU IMG:
Additional Information:
As mentioned earlier, my Q6600 is in the process of RMA so can’t really do any testing with Bios or anything else. Another thing… When on the phone to Intel’s Technicians. They said that due to the board only having 1.8v DIMM’s, they said because my RAM was 2.1v, it is those that are causing all my issues. In relation to the RAM spec on the listed computer configuration, could anyone confirm that? As I asked Corsair before the build and they said it would be fine.
I hope I’ve given all the required details, needed for a conclusion to my problems or even a guess.
Overall, Thankyou for reading. Any help/advice is much appreciated.

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1) Will not run with optimised settings since first install - Just restarts before starting windows. (Only boots ok when FSB is set to 1333)
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o FSB Clock = 1333
Mh, did you mistype something, or are you talking about overclocking when you mention "optimised settings"? I mean: FSB 1333 is already higher than the native FSB Speed of a Q6600 (=266 MHz or 1066 MT/s effectively). Can you explain again what you mean? Because if you really overclocked the FSB/CPU to 333 MHz FSB CLock Speed (and higher) all your problems may simply be the symptoms of non-stable overclocking settings (which is nothing unusual).
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MEMORY: Corsair Dominator-XMS2-PC8500 1066Mhz DDR2 – 2.1v
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Another thing… When on the phone to Intel’s Technicians. They said that due to the board only having 1.8v DIMM’s, they said because my RAM was 2.1v, it is those that are causing all my issues. In relation to the RAM spec on the listed computer configuration, could anyone confirm that?
Yes and no. The native speed of your modules is DDR2-800 @1.8V +/- 0.1V (JEDEC Standard) which means that such a setting is compliant with the industry specifications for DDR2 Memory and should pose no stability risk to the system (given that none of the modules are faulty).
DDR2-1066 on the other hand is an OC rating that requires you to raise the voltage to 2.1V and thereby above industry specifications. Stability problems @DDR2-1066//2.1V are not unusual. So in that perspective, the stuff the Intel Technicians pointed out to you is absolutely correct.

P7N Diamond - Computer will not enter sleep or hibernation automatically

Hello all,
I've been reading the forum for a while now and have found some excellent advice to get my system running stable. However I've been unable to figure out (or find out) how to get my computer to enter sleep and hibernation mode automatically.
I have no problem activating either mode manually (by using the start button or chassis power button), it just won't do it automatically despite setting it up to do so in Windows Control Panel.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
My system specs are;
- Chassis: Cooler Master Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW
- Power supply: Cooler Master Real Power Pro1000 (+3.3V@40A,+5V@40A,+12V1@18A,+12V2@18A,+12V3@28A,
+12V4@28A,+12V5@18A,+12V6@18A,[email protected],+5VSB@3. 5A)
- Motherboard: MSI P7N Diamond - BIOS version 1.2
- Processor: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz GO (OC @ 333 x 9, 3.0 GHz)
- Heatsink/Fan: Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
- Memory: Mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (@667, FSB to DRAM 1.1)
- Graphics Card: MSI NX8800GTS-T2D512E GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB
- Hard disk drives: Western Digital Raptor 150GB (OS), Western Digital Caviar RE2 GP WD1000FYPS 1TB (Storage)
- Sound Card: SB X-fi Xtreme Audio Card
- Modem: Rosewill RC-403 Conexant 56Kbps PCI Modem
- Monitor: Samsung 2493HM 24"
- OS: Windows Vista Home (32-bit) with SP 2
BIOS Power Management settings:
- ACPI Function: Enabled
- ACPI Standby State: S3
- Power Button Function: Suspend
- Restore On AC Power Loss: Off
- Wake Up Event Setup;
Resume From S3 By USB Device: Disabled
Resume From S3 By PS/2 Keyboard: Disabled
Resume From S3 By PS/2 Mouse: Disabled
Resume By PCI Device (PME#): Enabled
Resume by PCI-E Device: Enabled
Resume by Onboard LAN: Enabled
Resume by RTC Alarm: Disabled
Kind regards,
ted61
Cooler Master Centurion 5 CAC-T05-WW
Cooler Master Real Power Pro1000 (+3.3V@40A,+5V@40A,+12V1 thru 12V6@18A,[email protected],+5VSB@3. 5A)
MSI P7N Diamond - BIOS version 1.2
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz GO (OC @ 333 x 9, 3.0 GHz)
Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2 1066 (@667, FSB to DRAM 1.1)
MSI NX8800GTS-T2D512E GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB
Western Digital Raptor 150GB (OS), Western Digital Caviar RE2 GP WD1000FYPS 1TB (Storage)
SB X-fi Xtreme Audio Card
Rosewill RC-403 Conexant 56Kbps PCI Modem
Samsung 2493HM 24"
Windows Vista Home (32-bit) with SP 2

I have Norton Anti-Virus which I put into silent mode. Also, there is Fax Talk Communicator (in idle mode) and Webroot Spy-Sweeper. I'll try shutting them down and see what happens. BTW, an MSI tech-rep I spoke to today said that ACPI was not enabled in BIOS before installing Vista, therefore Vista does not recognize the system as being ACPI compliant. He suggested I re-install OS after first enabling ACPI in BIOS. What do you think, make sense?

P7N Diamond: Q6600 to 4.05ghz!! But stability at 3.6ghz?

Hi all,
I believe I've obtained the first successful non-extreme Kentsfield Quad bench above 4.0ghz on the P7N Diamond. It can be done.
The processor is a watercooled Q6600 G0 Batch L737B277 with a VID of 1.2375. The chipset is using the standard circupipe cooling, but I did buy an Antec Spot Cool to blow air over the NB. It seems to be doing a reasonable job.
Here are my OC settings and voltages:
Beta BIOS 1.1B4
Proc: 4.05ghz (450 x 9)
FSB: 1800 (450 x 4)
RAM: 900 (450 x 2)
RAM Timings: 5-5-5-15-2T (sub-timings on auto)
vCore: Max set in BIOS (haven't benched lower, but it may be possible.)
vDimm: 2.1
NB: 1.55
SB: 1.65
Gtl REF: 65
FSB Term: 35
all other voltages on auto.
Unfortunately, I'm still having a bit of trouble stabilizing at 3.6ghz. I've cornered it down to the same thing every time. The computer will eventually freeze (not blue screen or reboot, but freeze) at around 10 minutes of Prime 95 or between 2 and 5 minutes of OCCT (RAM stress.)
My current settings for 3.6ghz stable are as follows:
Beta BIOS 1.1B4
Proc: 3.6ghz (400 x 9)
FSB: 1600 (400 x 4)
RAM: 800 (400 x 2)
RAM Timings: 5-4-4-13-2T (default EPP timings)
vCore: 1.4375 (+2.000v set in BIOS)
vDimm: 2.1
NB: 1.4
SB: 1.55
Gtl REF: 65
FSB Term: 35
My guess is that the issue lies with the NB or SB, with RAM being the third option. I don't think it's the processor, based upon VID, batch, and the type of errors I'm getting (freezes, nothing else.)
I'm learning more about how NB and SB voltages effect the system, as well as how all of the reference, gtl, and terminator voltages interact (MSI's odd BIOS settings make this all the more difficult.) However, I'm still guessing at places, and without the ability to pinpoint a single voltage that's causing the freezing, it's becoming a bit tiresome. I've tried upping NB to 1.45 and SB 1.6 but can't seem to prevent the freezing. Perhaps its a combination of the two, or perhaps my FSB Terminator voltage is off. If anyone has any ideas on what could be causing this freezing, that would be great going forward.
Seeing that I can bench at 4.05ghz, I should be able to find stability at 3.6ghz. It's just a matter of time, and as always, further explanation of MSI's unique voltage settings always helps.
Thanks everyone!

Here's a brief overview of my 3.6 settings. Cpu is a G0 batch L737A702 with a VID of 1.2875, bios A7510NMS.116, C1E and EIST disabled.
The first screen in cell menu just shows mode to manual, fsb to 1600, and multi at 9. The pci-e freq=107 is just to give me a little help for oc my vid cards so disregard that setting.
Next you see my voltages. One might assume that cpu VID 1.2875v+.225v increase in bios will mean a vcore of 1.5125 but this isn't the case at all as you will see from H/W Monitor in a moment.
The H/W Monitor screen is showing me vcore 1.464v and while I'm sure part of this is vdrop, it also leads me to believe that bios may not be setting the initial voltage correctly or that there is some amount of vdroop before the OS is even loaded. Of course that's purely speculation without actual digital multi-meter measurements.
I can show prime 25.6 stability if need be, I have run it 6hr with similar settings on bios 114 but honestly I'm not really big on hours of stress testing. It cuts into my WCG time too much and I have taken kind of a personal interest in that since my cancer diagnosis 7 weeks ago. 4 cores crunching 24/7 without error and the occasional game of Witcher or Silent Hunter 4 is my idea of stable. You can see the CPU-Z Core Voltage 1.424v 100% load so vdroop is around .04v. You might also note ram timings are tight and CL1. The OCZ Reaper HPC's don't oc worth a damn but they run mighty tight stock.
The temps are really something I'm not going to discuss too much. The common question seems to be "which app should I trust?". I'll leave this argument to people who know a lot more about intel thermal specs than I do. The author of Real Temp (unclewebb) said something in a post that stuck with me: If you are Prime stable and have left some head room before TjMax, which you have plenty of, then absolute temperatures don't matter one bit. 50C, 55C, 60C, 65C and even 70C doesn't matter while running Prime as long as you are stable. You are within the Intel spec and you aren't going to hurt anything. With no documentation of TjMax by Intel and no user testing of TjMax for your new processor, absolute temperature is no more than just an interesting number no matter what software you are using to report it.
A s-pi 8m run

P7n Diamond + Q6600 = Reboots over and over

I have a P7n diamond that has been in my system paired with E6850 for a while now and been running no problem. Well I picked up a Q6600 and put it in and now it reboots everytime when it starts to go into windows. No errors or anything.. Just poof and reboot.. Will sit in the bios all day long and temp in bios is 21 to 23 celcius. Anyone have any suggestions for me. I have put all the bios settings on Auto just trying to get the machine to load windows. does the same thing with Windows Vista and Windows 7. Startup screen comes up and churns and right when screen is supposed to switch to windows it reboots... Thanks for all suggestions...
p7n diamond
4gb kingston hyperx
Q6600
PCP&Cooling 750 silencer
Raptor Drives
Oh well nevermind... i went back to the e6850.... After reviewing the forum and all other google searches its evident the q6600 and p7n diamond don't play nice together....

Quote from: gsoutherland on 07-February-09, 01:53:46
I tried that and everything else I could think of. I under no circumstances could get it to get past the vista or windows 7 startup screen. I OC'ed, underclocked, left stock, and anything else you can think of. I finally gave up and went back to my E6850. I'll do my research before I purchase another CPU. After looking around I see a lot of Q6600 users have problems with the P7N Diamond.
One thing I did not try was a different Bios. I'm running v1.2. Do you think that could have been it? And what is the latest bios. I know that 1.2 is the latest official. I saw a 1.23 but saw somewhere it said it was older than 1.2 so I did not download.
Thanks for your suggestions.
Ok I can't stand this beating me.. I'm back with the q6600 and rebooting. no changes helps. has there been cases where a cpu just won't work with a motherboard?? I put the e6850 back in and boots fines. I put the q6600 in other system boots fine. just will not boot on my p7n diamond board. I've flashed to latest beta 1.3 bios. I've reset cmos.. i've done everything i know to do and no luck....

P7N Platinum/Q6600 Overclocking suggestions needed.

Hello all, first of all let me say I'm brand new to the board and the information posted has been really helpful. My issue though is that I feel uncomfortable with the overclocking process. I left everything at default but changed the FSB to 1333 to get 3.0. That's fine and dandy but I want to make sure everything is running at maximum. Here is a list of my parts:
RAIDMAX SMILODON Case
RAIDMAX 730W PS
MSI P7N SLI Platinum
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600
ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 7 Pro
G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400)
EVGA GeForce GTX 280 1GB
So here's the question, what should my "Cell Menu" settings be for an overclock of 3.0, what should my ram settings be? Also, is 3.0 considered conservative? Should I shoot for more?
Any information is greatly appreciated!

Hi all. Just thought I'd drop a note on here to say I've been using these posts to help me OC my own q6600 and p7n sli combination and it's been very helpful. Compared to the p35 board I had before it's horrid to overclock but after much trial and error I'm getting there thanks to your help
One problem I still have is with my RAM which is rated to run at 1066 but currently sits at 800 after my overclock to 3ghz. I just tried upping the ram clock to 1066 and it appeared as if the machine would post correctly but then hung before loading windows...
Any ideas as to how I can fix this? My ram voltage is at 2.2 and timings set to 5-5-5-15. I'm using Corsair Dominator 8500
Northbridge voltage currently at 1.4 in preparation for my next increase in FSB.
edit: I'm now running at 3.6 after copying the bios settings from the post above. Still want to get the ram going faster though.

P6N Diamond + Q6600 Overclocking Help

Hey guys,
After tweaking my setting for 7 hour, I got my computer stable @ 3.0Ghz using the following settings.
MSI P6N Diamond
Thermaltake Big Typhoon (Idle Temps 25-30C / Under Load Temps 35-50C)
FSB @ 1333
Memory @ 800
CPU Ratio @ 9x
PCI-E @ 100
CPU Voltage .0250V
Memory @ 2.2V
NB Voltage @ 1.325V
SB Voltage @ 1.50V
FSV VTT Voltage @ 12%
C1E Disabled
Now, I ran Prime95 on it from 2 AM last night till 2PM today, and had no problems. Very stable.
My only problem now is that I get random restarts on my system sometimes, like when I'm loading stuff, and so it restarts randomly, and then on boot, my Wireless Card (D-Link DWA-552 Extreme Wireless N) wont work anymore. Windows will see it, and says it works, but it wont detect any wireless networks. My Sound Card works fine, it is also in a PCI slot like the Wireless Card, so I'm wondering what else I need to tweak to make my peripherals working.
Thanks

Alright, when I try and run IntelBurntest, I can't even get the thing to run. Here is the mark from the Prompt.
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Thanks to Cronos from XS for the memory size equation
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put even the most powerful X86/X64 CPU in the world at its knees. Load temp
under Linpack will be up to 22*C higher than the competing software Prime95.
This program will make usage of Linpack easier and more practical.
Note: Testing under 64-bit Windows with an Intel(R) Core 2(tm) processor
will yield the most accurate test stability results. If you notice that
data under the "Residual(norm)" column is not consistent throughout the
testing session, your CPU and/or System Memory is unstable under stress.
Operating Systems supported:
32-bit Windows (X86)
64-bit Windows (X64) [not Itanium]
Currently running OS: 32-bit
Physical memory available: 2445 MB
Turn on error detection (Y/N)? N
Stress levels available:
1 - Maximum stress
2 - Half stress (uses 1/2 of available memory)
3 - Low stress (uses 1/4 of available memory)
4 - Customize stress level
Please select desired stress level> 1
Using maximum available memory to stress test (2445 MB).
Enter the number of times to run the test (5 or more recommended)> 10
Executing Intel(R) Linpack 32-bit mode...
Intel(R) LINPACK data
Current date/time: Thu Sep 11 18:07:58 2008
CPU frequency: 3.000 GHz
Number of CPUs: 4
Number of threads: 4
Parameters are set to:
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Number of equations to solve (problem size) : 17344
Leading dimension of array : 17344
Number of trials to run : 10
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Say not enough memory, so I dont know what's going on here. =/

P7N Diamond/E8500 Overclocking Issue

Hello! I’m trying to do my first overclock. I’ve never been an overclocker but decided to give it a shot… so this is/was my first attempt. I read several overclocking posts, how-to’s, etc… before I started.
I wanted to get my system running somewhere around 3.8 GHz. I also have the OCZ Reaper PC2-8500 memory and wanted to see if I could actually get it to run above 800 MHz as well.
First I made all the basic adjustments to begin overclocking. I DISABLED Spread Spectrum, D.O.T. Control, Intel EIST, Execute Bit Support, C1E Support, Limit CPUID MaxVal to 3 and CPU TM. I also went into Windows (Vista Ultimate Edition x64) and made a custom Power Management profile and adjusted everything to Performance settings.
Next, I started making adjustments. I was at it for about 45 minutes and finally got a stable setting that booted to Windows fine and ran Prime 95 for about 30 minutes with no problems. I understand this isn’t a complete stress test by any stretch; I just wanted to make sure it was somewhat stable for now. Here’s where I am at:
CPU Frequency: 3.72 (393x9.5)
FSB Frequency: 1571 MHz
DRAM Frequency: 1048 MHz
CPU Voltage: 0.05000 (My VID is 1.220v I believe- have it written down at home)
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
NB Voltage: 1.375
All other voltages: AUTO
The problem is my BIOS says I’m running at 3.72 GHz and Windows says I’m running at 3.72 GHz. On the other hand CPU-Z, Prime95 and the Nvidia Control Panel all say I’m running at the stock E8500 settings. I even had Prime95 running while looking at CPU-Z and it never changed.
So needless to say I’m really confused here. I’m not sure my system is truly overclocked or not. Considering this is my first overclock I can’t imagine I managed to successfully (although I do need more stress testing) do it in 45 minutes. So, what am I missing or what did I do wrong? Why doesn't CPU-Z and the other software recognize my adjustments? I was considering setting the BIOS back to normal and using the Nvidia CP to make overclocking adjustments... is that a good idea?
Thanks in advance for any help!!!!
GH

Yep, CPU-Z version 1.51 is what I have installed. It kind of stinks that 3.7G's is the highest folks can get this board. I know many folks get the E8500 well past 4+G's, but I'll be happy with a stable 3.7G's. I really wanted to keep with BIOS overclocking, I just thought maybe I was doing something wrong. Any suggestions on some sort of performance testing I can do at default settings then at my overclock settings so I can verify I'm getting a performance increase?
Thanks for the reply!!!!!!!
GH
P.S. Oh yea, my VID is 1.2250v... I knew I had it written down!

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This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=128705.0

Yep, CPU-Z version 1.51 is what I have installed. It kind of stinks that 3.7G's is the highest folks can get this board. I know many folks get the E8500 well past 4+G's, but I'll be happy with a stable 3.7G's. I really wanted to keep with BIOS overclocking, I just thought maybe I was doing something wrong. Any suggestions on some sort of performance testing I can do at default settings then at my overclock settings so I can verify I'm getting a performance increase?
Thanks for the reply!!!!!!!
GH
P.S. Oh yea, my VID is 1.2250v... I knew I had it written down!

MOVED: P7N diamond Q6600 weired oce issue

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=116562.0

Malik,
If you can, dont use Ntune..it causes more problems than it's worth. Download the new System Tools, and just install the Performance Tools. It offers better OC options, including shader sliders and is much more reliable than Ntune was. Ths only glitch in the Performance Toos, is that you must run your shader at least twice your GPU core speed or it will give you an "invalid setting" message. Nvidia needs to provide an unlink button, or, just link the sliders.
Oh, and you should set all your FSB sttings in bios, not in Ntune or Performance tools.
Paul

PC keeps crashing P7N Diamond, soundcard driver issue?

Hi everybody!
I have followed some forums on xtremesystems.org and I ended up here.
I'm doing my 3rd build over the years (haven't done one for the last 2 years). I have done so far everything with extreme caution as don't want to mess up anything (I have had the case together already for the last 2 weeks and haven't even had chance to fire up even one game ). So far I have stayed away from trying over clock anything since my rig is not even stable with stock settings (plus I'm newb so I'm not ready to over clock yet). Haven't adjusted anything in Bios except DRAM voltage to 2.10 (recommended factory settings) and the timings 4-4-4-15 (again recommended factory settings). Everything fired up with first go but when I started to intstall drivers then I started to run into problems. I'm running XP Pro 64 and these are the drivers that I have used used so far:
Mobo: 9.64_nforce_winxp64_english_whql
GPU: 169.21_forceware_winxp_64bit_english_wh ql
X-Fi drivers: the ones that came with CD as cant find any from the internet that would go for XP64
I did not install Media Shield and I didn't install any software with X-Fi.
My main problem is that whenever I'm trying to install some software or drivers, the system keeps crashing by just rebooting from the middle of the install. It also kept crashing when I had that that software installed (volume control etc) that came with X-Fi, when ever I had mp3 playing and wanted to increase volume. I'm not sure if its any important but I have run Prime95 Small FFT Torture Test for 2 hours and everything was OK. But my my computer still keeps crashing randomly when I'm trying to install anything. Sometimes it takes like three attempts before I manage to install something. My own theory is that it has something to do with the X-Fi drivers.
All ideas are welcome, as I have no idea what do try next.
Sincerely,
Janx
PS! I do apologize for my bad English as its not my native language.

Quote from: janx4u on 15-April-08, 03:54:49
Regards "creative 5.10.0.33 whql dated 3/2/2007" drivers, are those the ones that you can download from MSI website (from here http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1372 ) ? If yes then I cant even install them. I cant remember what error it prompts me with as I'm using that Audigy for time being. I will edit my post later after I have swapped the cards back and done some further testing. I let you know what error it shows.
It shows the following message:
"This installation does not support the AMD 64 processor architecture"
Quote from: loonym on 14-April-08, 11:11:16
and just a question here although this might be a futile exercise, have you tried moving the card around to different slots?
Tried few different slots. Same old story, computer keeps crashing when trying to install some software. As a side note its quite random. Sometimes it crashes with first software I try to install, sometimes with second or third. It doesent have any preference which program it likes more or less. Sometimes if it doesn't install some certain software with first run I may be able to install it with second or third run. Quite random thing. There isn't any specific pattern that I have discovered (well except the fact it only becomes unstable after I install those drivers. Everything is so random.
Quote from: loonym on 14-April-08, 11:11:16
If you want to experiment you can read about some end-user modded x-fi drivers here: http://www.driverheaven.net/audio-general-technical-discussion/149754-vista-xp-driver-support-audigy-xtreme-audio-xfi-cards.html and here: http://www.youp-pax.org/
Tried those Youp_Pax_XFIAudio&XFIXpressAudioV1.01 drivers and it produces following message:
"Setup is unable to detect a supported product on your system. Please ensure that your product is properly installed before running this Setup program. Setup will exit." (and it only gives me an option to press "OK")
I also did a fresh Windows XP 64 install and tried again. No luck as it still prompts me with the same message. As a side note, I am able to install those drivers that come with the CD. So therefore I believe my product is properly installed. But that could be just me still doing something wrong (but it doubt).
I'm also going through these issues with MSI online support. They are very helpful, but so far there isn't much breakthrough. This is their last advice:
Quote
Dear,
Please go to the following link to download the xp 64-bit driver for your sound card to have a try. If still can't help, please mail us again.
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/download.asp?MainCategory=1&nRegionFK=&nCountryFK=&nLanguageFK=&sOSName=Windows+XP+Professional+x64+Edition®ion=1&Product_Name=Sound+Blaster+X-Fi+Xtreme+Audio&Product_ID=15855&modelnumber=&driverlang=1033&OS=23&drivertype=0&x=17&y=10
Regards
MSI Technical Support Team
Using that driver results with the same error message when I try to install it:
"Setup is unable to detect a supported product on your system. Please ensure that your product is properly installed before running this Setup program. Setup will exit."
But that is kinda obvious as those are drivers for Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio but I have PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio . The soundcard that is shipped with MSI P7N Diamond motherboard is not true X-Fi so therefore those X-Fi Xtreme Audio drivers should not work anyway.
I know it was long shot but it was worth to try.
I have notified them about my results, will see what other ideas they might have.
All ideas or suggestions are very welcome
Cheers
Janx

P7N Diamond / MS-7510 -- Flashed my BIOS & now S.O.L.?

Long, excruciating story put short: I bought an MSI MS-7510 motherboard which is OEM for an Acer Aspire G7700 machine. It's based on the retail MSI P7N Diamond board, but a few minor differences. Anyway, the BIOS that came with it was an Acer BIOS, as reported by the BIOS itself, but an MSI Live Update utility reported that the BIOS in there was the 1.4 (an MSI P7N Diamond BIOS). Not knowing which was actually in there, I tried to install a more current Acer BIOS for that board. The Acer flash utility informed me that my board ID was incorrect, so I went on to flash using the MSI P7N Diamond BIOS, v1.4. After successfully flashing via DOS, the computer does not post, it doesn't do anything when I start it. The hard drives, MB, CD-ROMs, PSU, and case fans all get power, but my monitor gets no feed from the video card, nothing. It seems to me that I put the wrong BIOS in there. Am I S.O.L.? Is there any way to flash the BIOS at this point? I'm guessing I can't do anything via USB stick or CD-ROM, as without a proper BIOS, the computer doesn't know what to look for, etc. Is there a hard modification I can do for this board? Jumper pins to reset the BIOS? Anything? I'm stuck here and could really use help!

Sorry to say, but we don't support OEM products on this forum. You need to contact Acer in regards to your problem.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=110544.0
Sorry, but topic locked. :(

Help!! Overclock Q6600 with p7n Diamond Mobo

Hello All
Im looking for much needed help to overclock my Q6600 from 2.4 (default) to the highest stable overclock i can reach for my system. With the settings i have given below i can run 3D Mark without crashing..and run games without crashing...but after a certain period of time on a game i crash after about 20 mins of playing. Also i run Prime95 and i get Worker errors after about 10-20 mins.
Here is my reading on Cpu-Z
Here is my system:
Mobo - MSI P7N Diamond
Cooler - Arctic cooling Freezer Pro 7
Processor - Q6600 G0 @ 2.4
PSU - Hiper Power Type M 780W
Mem - Ballistix PC2-8500 2GB
Graphics card - Asus 4870 X2
Monitor - 24 Inch BenQ G2410HD
Case - Thermaltake Tsunami VA3000 Aluminum
Bios V - 1.3
Here is the settings iv already tried in my bios:
D.O.T Control - Disabled
Intel EIST - Disabled
Sli Ready Memory - Disabled
System Clock Mode: Manual
FSB Clock - 1512
DRAM - 800
Adjust Cpu ratio - 9
Cpu Voltage - 0.18750
DRAM Voltage - 2.10
NB Voltage - 1.425
SB Voltage - 1.550
Cpu GTL Referance Voltage - 0.060
FSB Terminator Voltage - 1.300
Rest = auto
Spread Spectrum - Disabled
I hope this is enough info. I Ask for anyone that replys to keep it simple for me :D as im new to this
Any help given is much appreciated
Thnx.

Quote from: Massicor on 21-June-09, 04:37:32
You know what ... this forum is crap ...you ask for help and all you get is a load of crap replys that help in no way at all thnx for wasting my time. And for the record if you guys accually knew how to overclock my cpu with my mobo then u would have just told me with no problems but instead u have wasted about 3 days of my time waiting for usuful reply and help from a decent person ! good job.
Ill figure it out myself as iv already gotten it 3.0 stable with reading only what other ppl used on there bios with short amount of trial and error.
Wow. Some people just really don't get it...
We all know how to overclock CPUs, of course. Why are you biting the hand of the arm trying to help you? I used the P7N Diamond for several months, and also provided a lot of the overclocking tips and hints, along with every beta/performance BIOS MSI released.
If you want me to do the overclocking for you, and rid you of the experience; hell, I have no problem with that. The P7N is a simple board to overclock until the NB gets too hot. Max out the FSB term, don't touch the GTL voltages, and adjust the CPU Vcore only when needed. If you cannot follow anything I said in the last sentence - go back to stock settings.
Do you even know how to stability test an overclocked system?
If you don't want to learn, you're most likely not going to get beyond 3.2 GHz.

P7N Diamond overclocking Q6600

Hi all i would like to overclock my cpu now after having the P7N for over a month now and running everything standard. I have DDR2 800 Geil Memory which is running at 6-6-6-18. I have read that you need my VID which is 1.2750v. What would be my best settings? Any help would be great thank you.

Msi p7n diamond
Bios 1.2 (official)
Sunbeam core contact freezer (i saw on www.frostytech.com it was number one so i bought it
kentsfield q6600 vid 1.275 at (3.2 oc it ides at 37c if that helps any.) GO
Ocz ddr2 1066 2x2gb ram (4-3-3-8)
Ocz power supply 800 watt (85% efficiency) runs on a single volt rail, 60 amps
msi 2x8800 gts (g92)
320gb seagate 7200 hardrive
80gb seagate 7200 hardrive
blackline nzxt case, with a mess of fans. system idles at around 37 though i believe that's because of my videocard oc and the mass of a cooler i have
anyway thanks for replying, i was just wondering, i'm played around so much trying to get a stable 3.6 and i could get it to run stable for days on end until after like 10-15 minutes of gaming it would freeze, i could even run 3dmark and everything was fine.
the thing i don't understand is what am i supposed to set the fsb terminator to? I know the gtlreff volts have percentages to refer to but i have found nothing on the fsb term.
Thanks

Overclocking 45nm Quad and P7N Diamond

Hi everyone. I have a Xeon X3350 (same as a Q9450) and I'm trying to OC it. But it's just not working...at all...not even a little.
Default clocks are 333x8, but I can't even get it to 350x8. I know it's not the processor because I've seen people get it up to 475x8 without issues.
The processor has a VID of about 1.02, and I've given it a +.125 Vcore bump and NB voltage is at 1.45. It POSTs but Windows won't load.
FSB term is at 25 and I've varied CPU ref from the defaults up to 60, still nothing. I should be able to get it to 350x8 on stock voltages, but it doesn't work.
RAM is at 5-5-5-15 2T @ 800MHz and 2.1V. BIOS is 1.0. (I know there are newer BIOS, but shouldn't 1.0 work with just the modest OC?)
I'd appreciate any advice or suggestions. Thanks.

Greetings, I couldn't help but to comment on this. I think you wom't be able to overclock further with the P7N diamond. I had mine and I went back to my trusted P35 Platinum. I had problems with it with my E8500, tried all the beta bios and to no avail. Last week I got my new Q9450 and the same thing happened. You just cant have stable overclock. You will get different kinds of errors and bsod's. Now, with ol" P35 I'm running my Q9450 @3.4 with just 1.21 vcore. There were a few guys here who were lucky to run their Q6600 but these are "old" procs. I wish they could try running E8500 or Q9450 and see if they get the same results. I think MSI has problem with the board. Why is it that they have not released any complete and certified bios for the P7N diamond??? It's been months and I got tired going to their website and no new bios. And the four beta's are still not that good to work with. The board looks good, the layout is good... but it sucks.

P7n diamond+Q6600 overclocking not stable

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