P7N Mobo won't POST after a month, revisited

recieved new (not really new, it's been installed in something before) mobo from 2nd RMA, still no boot. amazing that the serial number was only sequence numbers away from the original. anyhow, system again 'barebones'd and still no POST. even tried a plain jane PCI video card to no avail. i'm shocked. MSI again offered to RMA, at this point what's the use? i ordered EVGA's model instead. at least they'll cross-ship if there's something wrong.
so, what are my options now except to RMA again? i don't want this board anymore, i'd rather have my dough back but i'm afraid it's $150 up in smoke.
guess i'll go try and find a port80 card from my lab and see if that'll tell me anything, because i'm pretty much done waiting for this thing to ever work right and so far sending it back 2x hasn't gotten me anywhere.

a bit of background:
Firstly, I'm a BIOS architect, so i'm not new to building/debugging systems.
system was originally working in following config: 2x1GB Patriot DDR2 800 (4-4-4-12, 2.1V set via BIOS), Q9300 2.5GHz (no overclock, stock voltages for everything else), 700W p/s, Zotac 8800GT 512MB PCIe 2.0 video, Samsung IDE DVD drive (master in IDE1), WD 40GB IDE drive (master IDE0), Seagate 160GB SATA I (SATA 1 port), PS2 keyboard/mouse, ethernet.
when the WD started to go (the OS disk) i cloned it to an 80GB Seagate SATA II laptop drive i had and ran that until i got a real replacement drive. The 80GB seagate went into SATA port 1 and the 160 moved to SATA 2. DVD i think i moved to IDE0. Things worked fine. New Seagate 250GB SATA II 3.5" drive arrived and i cloned the 80GB to that and swapped it into SATA port 1. THis is where the trouble started.
Upon rebooting, the system didn't come up all the way. I rechecked my drive connections and rebooted. The BIOS posted and indicated it had restored defaults due to 3x failed attempts to boot. (Of course this was only 2 boots, but i didn't pay much attention). I set the memory timing back to 4-4-4-12, 2.1V and checked all others (looked fine) and rebooted. system never posted after that.
Only thing system appears to do is power up and the CPU fan runs. Putting a 4 pin fan has the fan start up fast, then slows down (which to me says BIOS is booting enough to turn down the fan via the fan controller).
Figured it was a p/s issue, so tried one i had laying around, no POST.
Figured it was CPU problem, got a new one and tried again, no POST.
Thought perhaps it was a p/s issue again (the second one i had was pretty old, but came from a formerly working system), bought a brand new BFG 650W and tried again, no POST.
I then tried everything in the troubleshooting guides, removed from system to anti-static mat (i have a wrist 'leash' and the mat is properly grounded to house ground), and tried all combinations of no disk drives, no memory, single memory, tried old PCI video card, all no POST.
RMA'd mobo. They repaired something (didn't indicate what). Got system back, plugged it all back together and powered up, no POST.
Tried all troubleshooting tricks again, no POST.
RMA'd again, this time requested completely new mobo.
Got system back, plugged it all back together and powered up, no POST again!
Ordered EVGA mobo.
Got *another* RMA after talking to MSI tech support live. The only thing that he could suggest is that perhaps the new drive caused some problem to the board. This might be plausible, but SATA being hot pluggable, i wouldn't think that this could be an issue ever, even if i did plug it in while the system was on (which i didn't, every insertion/removal has been with system disconnected from power (removed A/C cable from p/s)).
Does *anyone* have any ideas that i might try?
(This is a system that's supposedly tested ok from MSI, and since i've got a different board coming if someone would like to toss me $100 i'd sell it rather then send it back). I'd rather keep it and get it working since i've spent my hard-earned cash and time on it already, but at this point it's been 6 weeks and i can't be without a desktop for any longer.

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