P965 Neo and core 2 duo issue

I have a P965 Neo
Vista x64
Intel Core 2 Duo 2200
4Gb Ram
ATI radeon HD 3650 512Mb
Core 2 duo processor seems to run a lot warmer than I think it should, both idlling and running high demand things (like games). Real Temp show the cores running at 83degC at times when CPU has been running at or close to 100% constantly. SpeedFan also shows high temps, and I have tried to control the fan speed using this program, but the max RPM of the standard Intel fan is approx 2000RPM, which I think I have it running at constantly.
I have just bought and Arctic Freezer 7 to cool it a bit more, but Im hoping someone has some help re some BIOS or other settings I can tweak to remedy this. Dual Core Center doesnt run on Vista x64 (I think), so I cant use that for anything.
One point I did notice was something about the CPU and 550MHz in the BIOS - offhand I cant remember what this was (Im at work now).
The RAM seems to be running at 800MHz, and the FSB is 200MHZ (ie not over or underclocked). I dont see any option to adjust the CPU Multiplier if this is a solution.
I hope this gives someone enough info to help! If you need anything else I can post it when I get home.
Firstly - apologies if this has been answered or is a stupid question - Im working my way through the forum trying to find answers, but nothing yet.
Im newish to the PC building game, and I know the basics, but BIOS stuff, overclocking etc is still unknown to me

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I can say I have not updated the BIOS from whatever was delivered in the box. If it helps I have this info:
Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
That is not your BIOS Version. Check your current BIOS Version by looking at the information displayed on the POST Screen:
In your case it should say: "W7235IMS V1.??"
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When you mention, real temp running at 83C, may i know where you're monitoring from?
Cas, he says he is using Real Temp to check is processors Core Temperatures. Real Temp is a Windows based application:
http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/
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I would suggest you to monitor the temp in bios either under hardware monitor or health status
Note that the BIOS does not display Core Temperatures (which are read directly from the registers of the processors). The CPU Temperature displayed in BIOS depends on an analog sensor. CPU Temperature and Core Temperatures cannot be simply compared.

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