P965 neo-f (7235) memory (4gb) incorrectly detected in bios (solved)

hello
My bios is 1.4.
I have kingmax ddr2 mars 667mhz memory.
4 memory modules of 1gb = 4gb.
My bios detected only 3 406 784 kb but the total memory should be 4 194 304 kb.
Anyone got this problem ?
I hope the futur bios can resolve this problem.
Thank...
there's no problem with 2 * 1gb or 3 * 1gb

Quote from: NovJoe on 15-August-06, 09:48:55
I remember that this is an calculation problem has many users with 4GB RAMs or more will encounter same issues, even on an Intel Original board.
then i'm not alone
Quote from: Maesus on 15-August-06, 15:06:22
Dhal, this is the 32-bit limitation. What is your CPU? What's your OS? If you instaleld a 64-bit OS, you will gain back all 4GB. But for BIOS, WinXP 32-bit, you will only manage to utilize about 3.4GB. This is because some I/O devices are having the same memory address at the upper memory area, that's why the physical DIMM RAM you added in, those addresses cannot be utilized to avoid conflicts.
I have conroe E6600 cpu, with winxp 32 bits OS.
I understand now why (avoid i/o devices memory adress conflicts with ddr adress memory between 3 406 784 kb and 4 194 304 kb ).
So if my OS was winxp64 or in the futur, will be vista64 (same problem with vista 32bits i suppose).
The OS 64bit bypass the bios memory calculation and send me back my precious memory :D
thanks for your response

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Quote from: skxprive on 25-December-09, 22:27:48
Thats right, as 10acjed said
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Quote from: RemusM on 12-June-14, 17:51:30
The P965 Neo motherboard is 8 years old, so don't expect miracles. .... You need to format the USB stick in the proper way. You may use this utility to do it: hxxp://www.prime-expert.com/flashboot/ Also, it's a good idea to use the first (USB0) connector (controlled by Intel ICH8) for the USB flash drive. Good luck.
Thank You for your fast response, RemusM!
I'm not looking for a miracle. I'm just looking for a mobo that does what it is supposed to do: Allow me to boot from a USB flash drive (I don't think that is too much to ask for even from a board that was made in 2006)!
Thanks for recommending FlashBoot. I see under their "Why FlashBoot" section that it "... does not shift to user the burden of choice between "USB-ZIP" and "USB-HDD" at format time and proper BIOS setup at boot time. ... and every USB disk is formatted in such way that it will work in every environment properly, regardless of current BIOS setting.", so I will give it a try and let you know about the results afterwards.

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