P965 Neo-F BIOS 1.6F

Just got this in the e-mail 5 min. from this post.
Enjoy !
http://members.cox.net/garikfox/W723516F.rar

Quote from: garikfox on 14-December-06, 12:48:05
A new Feature seems to be added under the DRAM, something about 32-Bit mode or 64-Bit mode, Hmmmm....
I left mine at 32-Bit.
Also it seems to be 1.6 BETA 15
Guess its single channel / dual channel mode switch.
and ofc its 15: 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,a,b,c,d,e,f

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Re: P965 Neo-F BIOS v1.7 released !

The latest found on the MSI ftp server, probably the next official :
http://filexoom.com/files/2006/11/1/41824/W7235IMS.rar
The memory latency is awful again,but lets hope that the MSI engineers will spot that this year

Quote from: Hans on 14-March-07, 21:04:18
Maybe you should wait until the official release before starting to contribute in a negative way.
I understand that you're not content, but this is not the place to complain. Contact MSI in your country for this. We cannot help you solve these kind of issues, since we do not work for MSI support.
Thanks for the info,but I'm here just enough to know what do we do here on this forum I don't expect from any of the forum members to solve any issue that was made from MSI. But,we can learn from our experience-right If I understood correctly,then we shouldn't talk about any issue here,but just call the nearest MSI support??
About this BIOS release(I'm sure that it will become official till the end of the week),or any other for this board,we have discussed here a lot,and at least some alternate way was found to set the memory timings correctly and then get more decent latency.On the other hand,it's OK to inform the users of P965 Neo that this BIOS will not solve this issue,and therefor if they were planning to upgrade the BIOS with this release for that reason,they won't now.

MSI P965 Neo-F Bios doesnt recognize my DVD RW driver,Help!

Hi,
I just bought a MSi P965 Neo-F motherboard and when i boot the pc because bios cant find the DVD driver and
i cant start my windows xp 64.
I thought og upgrading bios but i cant because i dont have floppy driver and my cd drive is unknown for bios.
DVD model: NEC DVD RW ND 3540 A
system info:
Maxtor 120gb
Duo core 2 E6400 2.13
Corsar 1024 DDr II 2X512
Asus PhysicX
Gforce7800GT 256
Help!
plz..

Quote from: Zimbower on 14-February-07, 18:50:18
Hi,
yes i do get the green message about the dvd in green color after the memory check(MSI logo)
somthing like ODD0 DVD RW
I will try the second option you recommended,thx alot.
Hello, welcome to forum. if you are planing to update BIOS:
get P965 Neo BIOS ver. 1.6 CD Image (have modded boot record and integrate JMB361 Dos drivers.)
How do i flash it?
Extract image file from archive, and burn it to CD.(example: open it with nero burning rom and burn image file to CD)
Make and ensure PC is stable, then reboot PC and boot from CD. you will need to confirm twice BIOS update when asked.
after BIOS update is complete successfully, power down your PC, remove power cord from the PSU, hit few time power button to drain electrify from capacitors, touch some metal with hands to discharge any ES which you may have, then open the case and Clear CMOS then pull back power cord, and turn on your PC, will be notice CMOS CHEKSUM MISMATCH/ERROR, hit F1 to continue to rebuild DMI Pool Data, then reboot your PC, and enter in BIOS and LOAD BIOS DEFAULT, SAVE AND EXIT, go back to BIOS and apply your customs settings.
if you want to use USB key to flash BIOS, copy AWFL865.EXE & W7235IMS.160 to USB drive, reboot PC and boot from bootable location, (hold "SHIFT" key when starting loading from bootable device to bypass startup files to avoid loading memory managers and other applications) navigate to folder which containt flash program and BIOS file and type from there:
AWFL865.EXE W7235IMS.160 /cks/sn/py/cc/cd/cp/wb/ld/qi/f/e

P965 Neo-F BIOS settings

Hey guys,
I am using P965 Neo-F with the official bios 1.60.
Many guys mentioned settings of FSB:Memory to 1:1 (divider) in bios,
I have never found such a option in my bios. So where is it SPECIFICALLY??
sorry that I am a noob. the reason that I want to do this is my computer won't boot on restart. I have to mannually hold the power botton to shut down and reboot by pushing power again. the FSB was set to 333MHZ. PSU is 650W antec. system is stable when it is working.
thanks!

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Does anyone know how much of a performnce increase lowering memory timming gives anyhow?
The impact on performance is insignificant.
I did a few tests a little while ago using Everest 3.5 (FSB @300 MHz, RAM @800MHz) on my system.
Timings 4-5-6-12
Read: 8306 MB/s
Write: 5437 MB/s
Copy: 5889 MB/s
Latency: 51,8 ns
Timings: 4-4-4-12
Read: 8370 MB/s
Write: 5440 MB/s
Copy: 5826 MB/s
Latency: 50,9 ns

P965 Neo 7325 BIOS update issue

Hello, I'm having a problem updating my bios. I recently upgraded to win 7 64bit home premium and installed 4gb of ram 2x2g corsair xms ddr2 along with the 2x512mb of corsair xms2 ddr2 memory that was already in the pc. My problem started that the bios doesnt recognize all 5gb it on shows 3.25gb. I've tried a few different approaches to the situation nothing has worked. this is how i have the memory seated in the dimm slots cpu> 2gb|512mb|2gb|512mb. I tried to clear cmos still nothing, unchecked the max memory setting in system config. I've tried just using the 4gb and still reads 3.25. So i downloaded the most recent BIOS update tried to update and i get the error saying its not compatible with the version in windows i'm using....Im at a loss and do not know what else to do..any help would be greatly appreciated.
Mobo - p965 Neo
cpu - intel p4 e6600
mem - corsair xms2 ddr2 2x2gb and 2x512mb 800mhz
vid - ati radeon x1900

Quote from: Steveng729 on 22-February-11, 10:11:46
Hello, I'm having a problem updating my bios. I recently upgraded to win 7 64bit home premium and installed 4gb of ram 2x2g corsair xms ddr2 along with the 2x512mb of corsair xms2 ddr2 memory that was already in the pc. My problem started that the bios doesnt recognize all 5gb it on shows 3.25gb.
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P965-Neo.html#/?div=Detail
• Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 1.8 Volt DDRII DRAM
• Supports up to 8GB memory size (DDRII 533/667).
• Supports up to 4GB memory size (DDRII 800).

P965 Neo new BIOS 1.6A

anyone who has the dvdrw turning into SCSI cdrom and unable to burn
should try flashing this bios version:
http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/15848/W7235IMS.16a.html
(maybe with the Jmicron driver )
Please let me know if it solved the problem

Quote from: srosner on 11-November-06, 04:53:43
@Maesus
it's the Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller. I don't know if you have to install the JMICRON driver at all !
for me it was installed, then I updated the bios and then uninstalled it and returned to the windows default, which is the Standard Dual something something... (took a couple of restarts as well )
that was it, everything started to work, and without any sound or mouse stuttering
Hope I helped someone with the same problem
Are your drives running in DMA mode or PIO mode? Please check and respond back. Thanks.

MSI p965 Neo-F Bios Fsb Problem

hello,
i am facing a problem with increasing the fsb beyond 166[as this is the maximum restricted fsb] with my pentium d 805 cpu, on this motherboard, whereas i have read in this thread that some users are able to reach an fsb of 312mhz easily. Is this a restriction in the bios or some other problem and can the 1.6a bios solve this problem, or is their any other mod bios with which i can select an fsb beyond 166 Mhz.
if anyone can helpme with this problem please reply as soon as possible.
Thanks

Hi,
Please read link below and then post question........... thank you
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=25959.0

Updated: 08/05/07 - MSI P965 Neo-F Latest Official and BETA BIOS!

Dear All,
I've got an info from one of MSI Engineers for the DDR 800MHz RAMs support for MSI P965 Neo-F mainboard.
There'll be a BIOS v1.40 that enables the mainboard to support 1GB DDR 800MHz modules.
Another upcoming BIOS v1.50 will fixed the 2GB limitation on the board, allowing the board to run up to 4GB of DDR 800MHz RAMs.
I'll update this thread on any upcoming details that I can get.
I can't confirm when the BIOS will be officially released so please kindly have the patience to wait.
Best Regards,
Joe Chow.
Added by Maesus:
beta BIOS 1.62 http://rapidshare.de/files/33337455/7235v162.rar.html (link provided by BOSSKILLER)
Updated by NovJoe:
MSI P965 Neo Beta BIOS ver. 1.67(Date: 09/08/06) :
http://rapidshare.de/files/34366659/7235v167.rar.html (link provided by BOSSKILLER)
Updated by NovJoe
MSI P965 Neo Beta BIOS ver. 1.69(Date: 06/10/06)
http://rapidshare.de/files/35481679/W7235IMS.169.html (Link provided by dryhte)
Updated by NovJoe
MSI P965 Neo Beta BIOS ver. 1.69(Date: 06/10/06)
http://members.cox.net/garikfox/W723516F.rar (Link provided by garikfox)
Updated by NovJoe
MSI P965 Neo BIOS v1.6 - Official MSI Released BIOS (Date: 17/12/06)
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/download/dld/spt_dld_file_record.php?folder=1&kind=1&name=7235v16.zip
Updated by NovJoe
MSI P965 Neo Beta BIOS ver. 1.6H (Date: 03/02/07)
http://necromanthus.com/docs/MSI-P965-Neo.html (Link provided by hexxer)
Update by NovJoe
MSI P965 Neo BIOS v1.8 - Official MSI Released BIOS
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=265
Update by NovJoe
MSI P965 Neo Beta BIOS ver. 1.91 (Date: 08/05/07)
http://www.mydatabus.com/public/dejanos/z/W7235IMS.rar (Link provided by dejanos)
Update by NovJoe
MSI P965 Neo BIOS v1.9 - Official MSI Released BIOS (Date: 11/05/2007)
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloadfile&dno=5550&type=bios

heres some picture proof for you guys just so nobody doubts me
E6300 can scream pretty good at 2.8Ghz
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1691/400mhzfsbcb0.jpg CPUID
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/1047/400mhzfsb2qx2.jpg CPUID
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/2179/3dmark0513krv2.jpg 3DMark05
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/347/holycrapqf1.jpg Aquamark 3
http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/5691/untitled1fk7.jpg SuperPI

Benchmarks: Dynamic Overclocking on the P965 Neo-F is a big lie!

I've just upgraded to the 1.5 BIOS and decided to run some benchmarks. What I found was interesting, so I thought I'd share:
I set the DOC function to General, which should give a 15% boost to the FSB when the processor is under heavy load. I wanted to see how much that will improve CPU performance compared to when DOC is disableled.
To test I transcoded an album from the lossless APE format to mp3 using Monkey's Audio and Lame 3.96. I chose this software because it reliably maxes out both of my cores, since Monkey's Audio can be set to do two separate encoding tasks simultaneously: one on each core. Lame itself is assembler optimized to use the processor's fancy vector extensions, ensuring a really maximal CPU load. The command line options I used in Lame are: -V 2 -q 0 --lowpass 19.4 --cwlimit 10.7 --scale 0.99 -mj -b96
Here are the results for my system (E6300, P965 Neo-F BIOS 1.5, GeForce 7600GT):
Standard FSB Clock (266 MHz)
DOC: Disabeled
10:35.17 min
Standard FSB Clock (266 MHz)
DOC: General
12:01.45 min
Slight FSB Overclock (280 MHz)
DOC: Disabeled
10:05.15 min
Slight FSB Overclock (280 MHz)
DOC: General
10:05.39 min
To confirm these results I ran 3DMark05 at the default settings with the FSB set at 280. My scores: 5637 with DOC disabeled, 5628 with DOC on General (+15%).
In other words, Dynamic Overclocking on the P965 Neo-F is hopelessly broken. It doesn't actually improve performance and sometimes it seriously damages it! Can anyone confirm that this is so?

My test results:
Dynamic Overclocking actually UNDERCLOCKS your CPU under load!
But it's more copmlicated still: I just did a lot of testing on my E6300 / Neo-F and here are my numbers:
FSB
DOC Setting
CPU Freq. at idle
CPU Freq. under load
266
Disabled
1863
1863
266
Private
1863
1507
266
Captain
1863
1566
266
General
1863
1625
267
Disabled
1871
1871
267
Private
1871
1909
267
General
1871
2061
310
General
2176
2062
325
General
2281
2090
333
Disabled
2331
2331
333
Private
2331
2331
333
General
2331
2331
The most shocking thing about the numbers is that at 266FSB, DOC actually underclocks your CPU just when you need it most. This also beautifully explains the performance results I got above. But if you look carefully, DOC seems to work just as it's supposed to when you bump the FSB to 267. Higher than that, though, I haven't found a frequency at which it works correctly. Generally, it underclocks, and underclocks more the lower the "rank" is that you choose. The exception to this is 333, where DOC seems to neither overclock nor underclock.

[P965 NEO MS-7235 ver1.1] CPU support?

Hello,
Is the Core2 7xxx series supported on the MS-7235 ver 1.1 P965 Neo (latest bios v1.B0)
I would like to replace a Core2 4300 by a Core2 Duo E7400 (Freq 2.8Ghz, Core 45nm, FSB 1066Mhz, L2 Cache 3Mb, PCG 06, SLB9Y)
On the website, it seems hat these proc. are not supported
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodcpu2&prod_no=265&maincat_no=1#menu
Thanks for any information

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On the website, it seems hat these proc. are not supported
Precisely, 45nm CPUs, FSB-333-MHZs-Processors and Quad Core Processors are not supported on this mainboard.
If you are thinking about a CPU Upgrade, the best processors you can upgrade to would be one of the E6x00 Series (E6300, E6400, E6600, E6700, X6800).

P965 Neo-F and GeForce 7900GS problem

Hey there,
I have been suffering a lot from my own-built computer, whose configuraions are:
MSI P965 Neo-F bios 1.60
C2D E6300 1.86G intel
MSI Geforce 7900GS 256M Video Card
2x1G Kingston DDR2 667
Antec 400W PSU
WD 250G SATA II Hardrive
1. In windows XP pro, ALL 3D games share the same problem. display flickers, kindda distortion of the 3D model, 2-D Text in the game shakes, unstable, but game could be going on without freaking out.
2. In Windows Vista Ultimate, Screen goes black and then a message out " Display driver stopped responding and has been recovered", happens very often. and 3D gaming in Vista is totally a nightmare, screen freezed and computer stopped responding almost every time once I runs 3D games.
Somebody told me it is overheated of my system, so I added two fans. The temperatures of CPU and GPU are normally around 30C and 50C which should be fine, I guess. However, problems still kicking my ass.
Is my PSU 400W Antec powerful enough? the minimum requirement of Video Card is 400W.
Would you guys please help me?? I was driven crazy by this unstable issues.

thanks for all your guys' replies.
So far, I have tested 3 Video cards and same problem, so it is not the video card.
I changed 2 PSUs, same problem.
I have tried to cool down the system by all means, and I believe it is not overheated.
I tested two RAM sticks individually, and found that if I used only one of them, no problem.
Therefore, I would say, one memory stick is defective and is repsonsible for the unstablity.

P965 Neo temp issues

Hi I'm really happy with my board, no problems yet Thankfully, also had a great installation, of windows vista RTM, and windows xp. But the rare issue i have is that my e6400 at stock, speed and with stock hsf, makes like 41c temp. this have been happening with the new 1.6 Bios release. any one have an idea why, and also my is always at low rpm, like 1300 or so, thanks.
and also, why Vcore voltage is so unstable, it move from 1.18 to 132v any ideas.??

I did some thermal throttling tests.
E6400 @ 2.130mhz (stock)
MSI P965 Neo-f (bios 1.6b13)
Speedfan 4.32 Beta 8
Stresstest & Rightmark CPU clock utility from www.rightmark.com i think. if not that try google
At first I tried to set fan running at minimum speed. Well it was cooling too much and I could not hit over 67C.
So I obviously had to disconnect the CPU fan.
After that temperatures started to rise. At 83C thermal throttle started up. I dunno why the hell the threshold is so high, and I dunno if it can be changed with some program, didn't find any settings from rightmark cpu clock utility.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~prc/temp/TM1.JPG
Picture 2 shows that temp readings are lost while cpu is throttling and stresstest is running. I guess this is because most CPU cycles are used for cooling CPU, not doing much work.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~prc/temp/TM2.JPG
Well I continued this for a while, what a heck this box has still warranty left
Picture 3 shows that thermal throttle is able to keep Core temps about 82C without fan running. Obviously stresstest + thermal throttle was reason for losing CPU temp readings, as seen in picture 3 temp readings came back after stopping stresstest.
http://koti.mbnet.fi/~prc/temp/TM3.JPG
I killed the stresstest, but left CPU fan disconnected. I can again see the temperatures. Its 82C.
At this point my computer still works without any problems.
Well I connect my CPU fan back. And temps starts to decrease fast, after going below 80C thermal throttle was disabled. It "saved" my CPU. BUT!
Now I get report from windows that my RAID1 device is broken, one of the HDD's goes missing. HMMMM?. (to note im running temporarily software RAID1 on Jmicron connected IDE hdds).
Well I decide to reboot my computer, Windows shutdowns normally. At post first everything seems ok, my SCSI card finds both my HDDs etc etc. Then comes Jmicron's turn to find HDDs, it just freezes there. Hmm interesting, did I broke my mobo??
I try reset button, again same thing.. $hit !!!.
I shutdown the computer, and turn on again and everything works again. OMG
So before someone tells how to set different threshold for cpu throttling it might work, but at least my p965 neo-f doesnt like it. My guess is that the North Bridge is overheating as there is almost no airflow there, without cpu fan running. (There would be airflow from my computer case coolers, but I did it case open, and my fans are attached to the opening side panel, so the werent blowing in the case atm).
But atleast 70-80C should be safe temps for the cpu.

P965 Neo: Boot from USB-Stick problem

Hi!
I have a problem with booting from a USB-Stick (FAT) with the P965 Neo board, Bios Version 1.5.
The USB-Stick will not be detected properly as a boot device (HDD) in the bios setup. It appeared only
once at the 'Hard Disk Boot Priority' list and sporadically at the 'CD-ROM Boot Priority' list (which is not always there).
Can anyone please point me to the correct bios setting to boot properly from the USB Stick?
(Booting from the USB Stick works fine on a ASUS board, so the USB Stick itself is bootable).
Here is my attached hardware:
SATA Harddrive
IDE DVD Burner
(both connected to the JMicron SATA/IDE controller)
thanks,
-phazer-

I use software called "Flashboot" to format my USB Stick, this software has options to format USB stick as USB-FDD, USB-ZIP or USB-HDD. You can use built in Free-DOS as your USB Stick OS. I have formated it as USB-ZIP and set my BIOS to boot with USB-ZIP and i didn't have any problems. Try this software it's very simple to use and user friendly. Only problem is that is not freeware so if you use trial version you can boot only once and after that you must format it again.

"Core Center does not support your motherboard" MSI P965 Neo Mobo

Hi all,
after upgrading to bios version 1.8 I can not seem to be able to use the Core Center application. Every time I try to start up the application I get an error saying that "Core Center does not support your motherboard". I tried to uninstall and reinstall the program, update to the latest version but with no success. I also tried to use the Dual Core Center but the result was the same.
Since I am using this program does anybody knows any fix for this problem please. I am sure that this is due to the bios update but I do not know what to do.
Thanks and Best Regards
Phanos
PS
My System specs are
Intel core 2 duo 2.13GHz No Overclocking
Twinmos DDR667 3GB (2 x 512, 2 x 1GB)
P965 Neo Motherboard bios version 1.8
Gigabyte 7600GS Graphic card
Enermax 530 Watt
Western Digital 16Mb cache 250 GB hard drive @ SATA-2, no RAID
Maxtor 16Mb cache 320 GB hard drive @ SATA-2, no RAID
Seagate 16Mb cache 200 GB hard drive @ IDE, no RAID
BIOS - optimal settings enable USB, 1394 and ACPI.
WinXP + SP2 + all latest Windows Updates

Hi Maesus,
the version of the Core Center is 2.0.2.3. In the about box it does not say beta. I still can not see the new version using the MSI Live Update 3. If someone needs this version please let me know at email removed to prevent spam or contact Msi directly at http://support.msi.com.tw/index.php
Best Regards
Phanos
I removed your email address to prevent you from getting spammed.
Those wishing to email Phanos, click the email icon to the left below his name.
Frankenputer

P965 Neo memory problem

Below are my systems specs. I've just built this machine and have 2GB total of OCX PC6400 Memory and can't get the computer to work with both of them in. I am currently working fine with either of them in Slot 1 but when when do a 1/3 or 2/4 combination with both the computer freezes at the Press Delete for BIOS or Tab for POST screen. Keyboard and all other functions are frozen at this point. I even tried manually changing the DDR memory speed to 4,4,4,15 which is what it says it is but still same issue. I can use either of them in slot 1 and the system is fine, but any combination and it freezes. Any suggestions or help on how I can get this mobo to recognize both my 1Gb sticks of memory?
Windows XP SP2
P965 Neo w/ BIOS v. 1.06.62 (newest one via Live Update)
Intel Pentium D 830 3.0gGHz DT 800FSB Socket 775
OCZ Platinum Rev 2 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz
Ultra 600w X-Finity Power Supply
XFX GeForce 7600 GT XXX 256MB PCIe
WD Caviar 250GB SATA-3G HD 7200/16MB/SATA-3G

Disregard this, I just finished a memtest on the 2nd of my memory sticks and it didnt pass :(
Im assuming that it is the culprite and I'll be sending it back post haste!

P965 Neo-F BIOS 1.6F

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