P965 Platinum and Realtek RTL8111B problem

I have a dual boot setup on my computer: Windows XP and Fedora 7 Linux.
After booting Windows XP I will have to COMPLETELY UNPLUG the power supply from my computer before booting to Fedora 7 Linux. The reason: If I simply reboot or turn off the computer (simply turning off does not remove the power from the mainboard), then the Realtek RTL8111B onboard LAN is left in a state which prevents Fedora 7 Linux from being able to use the LAN. Fedora simply reports the LAN is not available. The solution, which I find unacceptable, is to completely turn off the Realtek RTL8111B on the P965 Platinum and use an old Realtek 8129 PCI network board.
A better solution would be for the MSI BIOS to reset all of the Realtek RTL8111B LAN chipset's bits to a valid state so that Fedora 7 Linux would be able to properly recognize and use the onboard LAN.
Again, if I COMPLETELY UNPLUG my computer's power supply Fedora 7 Linux always finds and uses the onboard LAN. It is only after using Windows XP and rebooting to Fedora 7 Linux without completely unplugging the power supply first that there is a problem. This would seem to indicate the MSI BIOS is not resetting the Realtek RTL8111B onboard LAN chipset to a clean state when it initializes the system upon booting.
I am using MSI P965 Platinum BIOS version 1.4
John

Uhm, I'm having exactly the same issue under linux.
The router's led will stay off and it looks like there was no network cable connected (Realtek Ethernet controllers are insmod'ed and everything looks fine).
The only thing I haven't tried is unplugging the power supply's cable ... weird.
I'm also upset about this problem >:(
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Thanks for the reply!
Sorry, I should have mentioned I was definitely achieving 1:1 - I recall the confusion over why my RAM was trying to be 800+MHz at 667 and then I realized 533 actually meant 1:1, 667 4:5 etc, so I am definitely running at 533/1:1. I doubt this RAM would even post at 800+ MHz.
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Check here....
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Hello, I'm from Greece
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I bought them yesterday because i want to upgrade my system.
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Quote from: triangle on 28-August-08, 17:00:43
the only thing i can suggest is to drop in a 7.0 compatible CPU (if you can) and flash the BIOS to 7.2 that way then switch back in your new CPU. A painful process, I know ... Alternatively, if your retailer is friendly they might set it up on a test bench for you and flash it.
Andrew
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Originally posted by BluddSimple
I have a Lite on LDW 411s dvd writer that is on the same ide channel as a lite on dvd player (labled as JLMS SJ-HD1665 in the device manager.
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