P965 Platinum - memory troubles

I completed the following system over the weekend:
P965 Platinum w/ 1.2 BIOS
Core 2 Duo E6400
Corsair Twin 2GB 800MHz 4-4-4-12
Rosewill 550w PSU
eVGA 7600GT
I checked the BIOS and verified that the memory is recognized as 800MHz. However, it is currently running at 5-5-5-18 timings at 1.9v. I am able to change the timings to 4-4-4-12, but then the system does not boot (stuck on extended memory test).
I checked with Corsair, and their documentation states that the 4-4-4-12 timings are achieved at 2.1v. Unfortunately, the BIOS will not allow me to change the memory voltage. The number is grayed out.
How can I fix this? I installed Duo Core Center to try to adjust it from there, but it will not run...I get the "This application has caused an error and must be closed..." message when I try to start it. I reinstalled it with the same problem both times.

First of all, Run a memtest86 session for each memory stick seperately , one of the sticks may be broken ... you never know...
Quote from: EricT on 20-December-06, 11:08:30
OK, I adjusted the voltage to 2.1v. Then I disabled SPD and set the timings to 4-4-4-12. I rebooted, and it crashed while loading windows.
Try a little more voltage if the bios allows you to, 2.2 or 2.3Volt - It IS a budget motherboard, and budget boards tend to give less real voltage then what you selected.
Quote from: EricT on 20-December-06, 11:08:30
I went back to the BIOS and enabled SPD, leaving the voltage at 2.1V, and CPU-Z is showing the timings as 5-5-5-18 like before. Frequency 400MHz, 2:3 ratio. It is also reporting Channels # Single. This should be dual-channel memory right?
The SPD tab in CPU-Z tells me that each module has 400 MHz frequency with timings 4-4-4-12. Now I'm confused.
Might have something to do with having both sticks in single channel - Since there are 2 memory sticks in one channel it might automatically loosen timings for that channel...
Quote from: EricT on 20-December-06, 11:08:30
Another thing, if I put modules in slots 1 and 3, the system hangs at memory initialization. I can only get it to run if I use slots 1 and 2. I believe this is why I'm in single channel mode?
Yes...
Quote from: EricT on 20-December-06, 11:08:30
Can someone help me get this memory running optimally? I spent the extra money to get CAS 4 memory, but apparently I am not getting that performance.
Core 2 Does not really benefit all that much from tight timings, you are confusing with athlon64 wich like tight timings ...
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=472 This article shows that core2 does not really benefit a lot from expensive high end memory.

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P965 Platinum, memory support

I was looking at the manual of the MSI P965 Platinum (pdf from the MSI website) and I noticed this memory speed support table:
Does this mean I can't use PC2-4200 (DDR2-533) in this board in combination with a Core 2 Duo (FSB 1066)?
Also, is this a chipset limitation or one of the motherboard? I looked at the P965 datasheet and I didn't find anything that seemed to cause this limitation, but I'm not experienced enough in these matters to rule anything out...

In MSI P965 Platinum User Manual written:
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- 4 DDRII DIMMs (DDRII 800 supports up to 4 GB, DDRII 667/ 533
support up to 8 GB, 240pin / 1.8V)
Why MSI P965 Platinum is supporting only 4 GB RAM if you use DDRII 800 memory?
MSI 975X Platinum PowerUp Edition supports up to 8 GB RAM if you use DDRII 800 memory. Compare
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=746
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=745
It's because MSI P965 Platinum use old one P965 MCH but MSI 975X Platinum PowerUp Edition use the newest one.

P965 Platinum memory latency settings problem

When I overclock the FSB of my P965 Platinum with C2D E6400, I get problems with the memory latecy settings. My memory is specified as 667MHz 5-5-5-15 2T, but when I enter these latencies in the bios, CPU-Z and Sandra both say I have 3-5-5-15 1T. Which is of course out of spec and gives system instability unless I raise the memory voltage quite a bit above spec.
So does anyone have an idea why this might be? Is it a bug of the bios (ver 1.3) or are CPU-Z and Sandra both mis-reporting the value? In the latter case, why can I get rid of the instability by raising ram voltage??
Thanks for any help
/Mattias
PS The disable speedspep switch in the bios dosn't seem to have any effect. The multiplier still switches down from 8 to 6 when the CPU is idle. Anyone elso who has the same problem?

The CAS Latency issue is known and it is possibly being addressed by MSI technicians. Please refer to this thread, CAS Latency is in the list of desired fixes for a new BIOS release. For the time being, switch memory timing to SPD instead of Manual in your BIOS and it should be set to CAS Latency 5...
Memory voltage: at certain settings memory chips require a certain amount of power. The default voltage for DDR2 is 1.9v, so in other words DDR2-667 5-5-5-15 is the best your memory chips can do at the default DDR2 voltage, that's why your memory is rated as it is. Raising the voltage enables you to run above rated speed, you simply let the memory chips use more power. There are limits of course...
Disable Speedstep: please refer to this thread, should help you disable Speedstep.

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MSI P965 PLATINUM CAN'T WORK ALL MEMORY CHANNELS

• Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 1.8 Volt DDR2 SDRAM
• Supports up to 8GB memory size (DDR2 533/667).
• Supports up to 4GB memory size (DDR2 800).
• Supports dual channel DDR2 memory architecture.
• Supports DDR2 533/667/800 memory interface.
That's what MSI says in manual.
I recently upgraded my computer to core 2 technology, and because
i used programs that consume a lot of memory i bought
4 ddr2 667 memory modules of 1024GB each Kingston Lifetime....e.t.c
when i installed the 4 dims i sawthat windows and bios was able to see only
the 3 modules. The 4th was on vacation... After changing at least ten times the memory modules.. ( same date, time, brand, production date, stickers, and all that)
i still have the same problem... Anyone can help please?

sorryguys...
but having a PC of latest technology and buing a motherboard which can not
fullfill what is suposed to do, really gets me mad.
The amperage is
+3.3V +5V +12V1 +12V2 -12V +5Vsb +3.3 +5V Combined Power
32A 38A 18A 17A 1A 2.5A
JUST IN CASE i give you full details of my PC
PROCESSOR : INTEL CORE 2 CPU 6600 @ 2400GHZ
MEMORY : KINGSTON KVR DDR2 667 1024X4 DIMMS (ONLY THREE WORKING )
MAINBOARD : MSI P965 PLATINUM (MS 7238)
MONITOR : LG FLATRON L1919S
VIDEO CARD: MSI NX7600 GS 512MEMORY
CAPTURE : PINACLE STUDIO 500 PCI 10.5
DVD R/W : 2 DEVICES NEC DVD R/W LABELFLASH OPTIARC AD-7173A
3 SATA II HARD DRIVES: 1 WD 320GB SATA II, 1 WD 250GB SATA II, 1 WD 250GB SATA II
Before i continue, i'd like to thank you all for your support. I'm from ATHENS Greece,
and i paid 2500 US Dollars to get this Pc the way i wanted to. The answer i got up to know from
all the companies i cooperate is. NO MOTHERBOARD SUPPORTS 4 DIMMS ANYMORE
kEEP THE 4TH DIMM, JUST IN CASE OR BRING IT BACK TO US AND WE'LL GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY BACK
Now a stupid question of mine WITH 3 DIMMS memory cant work dual channel? Correct?
So what is the meaning of keeping the THIRD dimm ... It will work single chanel? Right?
Now i come to the most important thing.. MSI's Manual...
Main Memory
• Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 1.8 Volt DDR2 SDRAM
• Supports up to 8GB memory size (DDR2 533/667).
• Supports up to 4GB memory size (DDR2 800).
• Supports dual channel DDR2 memory architecture.
• Supports DDR2 533/667/800 memory interface.
Who will support me when i get a serious brain damage???
Anyway thanks a lot guys for your help. I really appreciate it..
Thanks

[MSI P965 Platinum] troubles booting

HI,
My config:
MSI P965 platinum
C2D E6400
WD800jb pata
Maxtor sata
GF7900GS
I am having difficulties booting properly from my sata drive. At the moment two drives are connected to my mainboard: sata & pata (and dvdrw by the way)
When i turn on my pc it says: "reboot and select proper boot device". When I press enter the system directly boots normally.
My boot sequence is: dvdrw, sata.
When I change the sequence to boot only from sata, the problem isnt solved.
The only way to solve the problem is to disconnect the pata drive. Then the mainboard wil boot without having to press a key...
Does anybody have a solution?! I want to connect both drives to my mainboard but i dont want to press enter during startup!

When you say you have to press a key during start-up, is that when it lists your P-ata devices??? It has to do that, just press the button...
I'm currently on a S-ATA drive, and I had no trouble at all... The only problems I had, was making it recognize my DVD-drive, as I have it as master, with an P-ATA drive as slave (on the cable)... To make it see both I had to use the jumpers on the back of the drives, and set the HDD to master manually (no cable-select)...
Have you installed Windows on that S-ATA disk?? If not, it might be saying that, because it wants a drive with Windows on it
Oh, and congratulations with the board
Best Regards

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K8N Neo4 Platinum - Overclocking Troubles - Memory Timings (2T)

i had a similar problem at first, my system wouldnt post even at shockingly low overclocks, like 225 fsb, anyway i noticed that the 1,5 bios automatically set some strange timings for my ram, cant remember exactly what but when i went through the timings manually then i could clock up to 280 or so. This is on 166mhz memlock, i still cant get a decent overclock using the 150 memclock or anything lower.
Contacted MSI but the 'technical support' department, although quick to respond, seemed absolutely clueless when it comes to overclocking.

Whoo Hoo! Trouble Free P965 Platinum Install!

Well, this is going to be my first and probably only post here. I know a lot of people who read this forum are either thinking of buying this board or have one and are getting ready to assemble their new machines.
I was in the later group and in reading through all the other posts I started to get a bit concerned that I was going to have a rough ride. I am happy to report that that was not the case. My build went smooth as butter. Here what I put together...
MSI P965 Platinum
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe CPU
XFX GeForce 8800 GTS 640MB
2 x 1 GB Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800
Maxtor L01F300 320GB SATA
NEC 18X DVD +/-R
Antec TruePower Trio 650w
COOLER MASTER Centurion 5 ATX Case
I did run into two small issues. First, I was getting a yellow "!" next to one entry in the device manager. SM... something, can't remember exactly what it was called. Turns out if you install the Intel INI drivers from the included install CD that gets cleared up. Second was with the infamous JMicron drivers. I was able to get XP installed, but I was getting REALLY SLOW read speeds when I was installing games. I updated the drivers and and now my drive's speed is where it should be.
So to sum up, this MoBo has been a dream to install, the very few problems I encountered were minor and my system is totally stable and fast! If you're considering buying this board, by all means, go for it.
Happy computing all!

I'm glad to know that you are happy with your system .
Enjoy and have Funz!

P965 Platinum, Vista, and Raid

I spent a good couple of hours skimming the boards yesterday trying to set up my two new 320 SATAII hard drives in a RAID array. I ran into a ton of trouble, but then finally figured out part/all of my problem and got things working. I figure this information will be helpful for anyone who is trying to do the same. I'll post the most useful links I found at the end of this post as well...
heres what i'm working with:
MSI P965 Platinum
2gb OCZ DDR2 800MHZ 2 dimm kit
36.7 WD Raptor SATAII (as system drive)
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700
Sapphire X1650 PRO 512MB PCI-Express
Antec TruePower TRIO 650 650W Power Supply
promise technology ultra ata 133 tx2 (the source of a ton of trouble)
originally i had vista ultimate x64 installed on a 36.7 gb raptor that was performing ok (once i did the extremetech suggested reghacks for lowdiskspace and 8.3ntfsfilenames), but not as well as my friends new computer with a blazing fast 500 gb stripe.
my bios was configured as such:
on board raid controller: ide
on chip ata devices -> sata 1 config: enhanced
...configure sata 1 as: ide
...sata 2 configuration: enabled
i shut down the computer, and changed
on chip ata devices -> configure sata 1 as: raid
then i was able to get into the raid setup with Ctrl + I, and set up my array. Here's where I ran into my first problem. I figured I wanted a raid 0 because I don't care soooo much about my data being lost, and i have never had a hard drive die on me (knock on wood) in the past 8 years (guardian angel). So setting up my array was working fine, except for i hadn't anticipated that i would have to choose an ideal strip size. The board suggests 128k, but after much deliberation I decided since I wanted the speed benefit for my OS and programs, I wanted 32k strip size; but having a 640 stripe for just the OS and programs seems huge, so out of curiosity I tried setting up two raid arrays (both across the same drives). The first was a 100gb raid 0 with a 32k strip size and the second was a 496.2 raid 0 with a 128k strip size. This worked fine, but then I got to thinking... can I set up the 100 gb array as a mirror? If so, then I get the best of both worlds since I can secure all my OS/settings/programs/documents, but I'll have a super fast (respectively) 400 gb drive for ephemeral memory and expendable data (replaceable stuff like ripped dvds, downloaded music and programs, downloaded anything...). This would all be at the expense of 100 gb which certainly seems worth it at this case because I wouldn't have to worry about the possibility of losing all my data like everyone seems to cry about all over the internet when talking about raid stripes. So i set it up, this worked fine... next step boot into vist ultimate and start installation.
Here proved my most annoying step, as my first problem occurred when I couldn't find the dvd/cd drive in the boot sequence menu. I saw the usb card reader drives, my raid arrays, and my raptor... but no dvd/cd drive (of which I had two connected). After scouring the web about that darned Jmicron chip, it appeared as if the bios cannot see the PATA drives on this board and I would have to try pressing F8 at the jmicron bios screen. THIS IS COMPLETE MISINFORMATION.
As stupid as it is, the real problem is that the boot sequence only displays 6 (i think it's 6) bootable media, and if you have anything else it just doesn't show it. This gave me the impression that the bios was unaware of my cd/dvd drives connected to the IDE controller. As soon as I unplugged my card reader, the dvd/cd drives appeared in the boot sequence... thank gawd because...
i had tried plugging my dvd/cd drives into the promise ata controller (which i already know lacks a vista 64bit compatible driver), which actually allowed me to boot into the vista setup whereupon I was asked (I did NOT have to press F6, even though everyone seems to think they have to) to install the driver for the dvd/cd controller (I assumed and was right that it was asking for the promise ata controller driver). I put the most recent drivers from their website on a usb stick, plugged it in, and the driver worked and then setup was able to see my dvd/cd drives (which is weird because how did I get to that point if it couldn't?).
Then setup said it couldn't find any drives, so I figured the problem was with the driver for the ICH8R intel raid controller. I downloaded drivers from MSI's website, intel's, and a bunch of others, and NONE of them worked. Setup would install the drivers, but it still could not see any hard drives attached to it. I'm not sure what caused this problem, but my best guess is that it had to do with the promise card being plugged in.
I gave up on that and figured I'd try something else, maybe the promise card was causing the problem. So I tried changing the ports that all my sata drives are plugged into. The two new 320's were on 0 and 2, and I also had a drive on 3 4 and 5. I read somewhere that intel had some array issues on 0 1 and 2, so I tried setting my 320's on 4 and 5 and moved my other drives around it. This is also when I had the idea to remove my card reader and pull out the ultra ata 133 tx2 card.
I was able then to see the dvd/cdrom in the boot sequence, put it first, and boot into vista setup. VISTA ULTIMATE DID NOT ASK ME FOR ANY DRIVERS AT THIS POINT. I'm not sure if it was the sata ports I had my drives plugged into or not, but at this point vista setup saw all my drives and I chose the 100 gb array and installation went smoothly.
Excellent… now I just have to install photoshop and see if it loads in 4 seconds like on my friends new computer with the stripe. If not, then I'll probably just cry.
Hopefully I've covered enough of the keywords in this description that anyone who has this problem will easily find this page. Remember:
JMICRON IDE DEVICES CAN BE SEEN BY THE BIOS
VISTA SETUP DOES NOT NEED ANY ADDITIONAL DRIVERS TO INTERACT WITH THE RAID CONTROLLER
SORRY IF THIS WAS A TON OF INFORMATION BUT AFTER ALL THE TIME I SPENT TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT I FEEL LIKE NO ONE HAD POSTED A FULL BLOWN SOLUTION
Hope this was helpful

I have the very same issue except two things. When I try to see why it will not load the Array I find that the first drive (Maxtor 6V160E0) is red and considered to be bad. Did you happen to notice if your system showed the same thing?
I have moved the drives around and it still corrupts the Maxtor 6V160E0. I have not tried to move them to the end of the SATA connections. I will try that and see what happens.
Other thing was the JMicron would see my NEC DVDRW, but thought it was a ACSI and it would only read at 12X. It even stated that in the OS. I then was told by the Techs that they have not had alot of luck with NEC drives. So, I purchased a LiteOn SATA II DVDRW, connected it to the JMicron SATA connector and it came alive. I then found it to turn out worthless DVD's and CD's. Not even that Drive would read them after burning. I got so ticked about the JMicron I just shut it off in the BIOS. I hooked up the drive to the #4 port and whala, no more problems with burn. Now it reads, writes, and re-writes at the stated speeds (also I needed to update the firmware twice since I purchase the drive. The MS updates did something to it and the new firmware fixed it.). I have never been able to get a drive to work correctly on the JMicron no matter who made it.
I sure hope that MSI has scraped any board that will ever use that controller. JMircon is not my friend!
I am going to get 2 more SATA II drives and try this without having to backup all my data.

P965 Platinum

BIOS Sign-on message: MSI P965 Platinum A7238IMS V1.5B1 032207 (Date: 03/22/2007)
Attachment name: A7238IMSv151.zip
BIOS Sign-on message: MSI P965 Platinum A7238IMS V1.5B2 040407 (Date: 04/04/2007)
Attachment name: A7238IMSv152.zip
BIOS Sign-on message: A7238IMS V1.5B3 042007 (Date: 04/20/2007)
Attachment name: A7238IMSv153.zip
BIOS Sign-on message: A7238IMS V1.5B4 053107 (Date: 05/31/2007)
Attachment name: A7238IMSv154.zip
Note: P965 Platinum.rar contains A7238IMSv151.zip, A7238IMSv152.zip, A7238IMSv153.zip. (B1,B2,B3 versions.)
Extract the P965 Platinum.rar to desired folder, then execute our Tool, and point to desired BIOS version .zip archive when asked.
A7238IMSv154.zip (B4 version)
Make and ensure PC is stable before proceed. Remove any OC temporary if you have.
Use Beta or Modded BIOSes at own risk!
flash BIOS from USB key, by using our Tool(easy & safe way to flash):
MSI Forum HQ USB Flashing Tool

I am uploading the latest BETA BIOS Release for the P965 Platinum: A7238IMS.193 [=v1.9b3]
Changelog [A7238IMS.180 -> A7238IMS.193]:
- the POST could show 4096MB when installing 4GB memory, but BIOS System Information only displayed 3328MB
memory size.
-fix installing 1TB hard disk, when configuring sata mode as IDE, the bios shows 1000GB, but post shows 100GB. the bios and post both show only 100GB in AHCI mode
- Support Intel E8400 CPU [E0]
Source: http://www.msi-forum.de/index.php?page=Thread&postID=717266#post717266
Note: This BIOS will also support the E8500/E0, the Q9550/E0 and probably the Q9650/E0.
However, use it at your own risk, as always.
>>Use the MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<

P965 Platinum and E6600 won't go to 3GHz

Hello,
I have a MSI P965 Platinum and a E6600. Currently I have two sticks of Corsair Value Select 1GB PC-5300 RAM, rated at 667Mhz 5-5-5-15.
The E6600's stock is 2.4GHz, and I want to go to 3GHz. This should be dead simple - not only can the E6600 usually clock much higher, but 3GHz will only require a 333Mhz FSB (9 x 333), which means my RAM doesn't have to be overclocked at all since it is rated for 667MHz DDR2. I should be able to obtain 3GHz with a nice comfortable 1:1 FSB:RAM ratio without stressing the Corsair Value ram beyond specifications.
However, it just won't work. I seem to be having RAM instabilities at 667MHz 5-5-5-15 and 333Mhz FSB. The reason I say RAM is because Memtest86 freezes, and SuperPi has a 'not exact in round' error in 16M and 32M - which apparently means there is a problem with memory stability. Now, I know this sounds like the RAM is faulty, but I don't think it is, because when I run stock 266MHz FSB, the system is fine at 4:5 divider to make the RAM 667Mhz. It's only when I increase the FSB (and not the RAM at all) does the system become unstable. At 266MHz FSB and 667MHz RAM, my system will pass any stress test, but not at 333Mhz FSB and 667Mhz RAM.
I've upped the CPU voltage 3 notches to around 1.350 or so under load. My ram is at 1.9v, although I tried 1.95v too. I didn't touch the chipset voltage (should I?). My temperatures seem ok - I'm only using the stock Intel cooler, but it should be able to handle 3GHz fine. It hovers around 48c idle, 60c load according to Everest Ultimate (before it crashes in SuperPi), so it doesn't appear to be overheating while overclocked. Not great tempts but acceptable.
However, there are two things I've noticed:
- In the BIOS, if I select CAS to be 5 or 6, CPUZ still reports my ram at CAS3 (which my RAM can't do at 667Mhz), or 3-5-5-15. However if I select CAS4, it reports CAS4 properly (still unstable though), or 4-5-5-15. This is only a problem when I overclock the FSB - at stock FSB, the CAS timings are reported correctly. It could be an issue with CPUZ, but I doubt it. If there is a bug with the P965 Platinum not setting the CAS right when overclocking, this might explain why I'm having RAM stability issues even though I'm not overclocking the RAM - i.e. because the board is not using the right CAS setting. Is this a known bug? Also, I tried Auto SPD but it tried to use 4-4-4-12 at 667MHz (again, which this RAM won't do).
- When I run 333Mhz FSB and 667MHz RAM, the POST shows some sort of error message about the board not supporting CPU's with a 267Mhz FSB or something (which is weird, because 266Mhz is the stock speed *shrug*), and that it's resetting it. Sorry I can't recall the exact error off hand, but I can try the overclock again and provide it later on if needed. Anyway, despite the error message, the overclock still applies - it will boot into Vista 64-bit at 3Ghz, it just won't pass any stress test.
Is it possible a BIOS update could help me? I run V1.4, and even though I know there is a V1.8 now, no newer version mentions anything about fixing overclocking issues. I don't like to update my BIOS unless necessary (and I don't even have a floppy drive anyway, would need to figure out how to do it via USB).
Thanks for any help. I'm certain my RAM isn't faulty and I'm certain my CPU should be able to reach 3Ghz surely. I'm also pretty sure heat isn't an issue. I think maybe the board is trying to force CAS3 when FSB overclocking or something? That's my guess anyway.

Thanks for the reply!
Sorry, I should have mentioned I was definitely achieving 1:1 - I recall the confusion over why my RAM was trying to be 800+MHz at 667 and then I realized 533 actually meant 1:1, 667 4:5 etc, so I am definitely running at 533/1:1. I doubt this RAM would even post at 800+ MHz.
So updating the BIOS may help? Ok thanks, I guess I will update then. I don't see it in the "fix" list though on the site. Is there a way I can get a *full* fix/enhancement list for 1.5, 1.6, 1.7 and 1.8 so I know exactly what I'm fixing going from 1.4 to 1.8?
Also, does MSI support LiveUpdate BIOS in Windows Vista 64 yet? And if not, is there an official way to update via a USB stick? (no FDD here).

Windows XP-Pro will not install on my new P965 Platinum

I hope someone can help me with my problem.
It seems that everytime i try to install Windows XP-Pro after the initial
drivers setup i get this Error Message:
A problem has been detected and windows has been shut down to prevent
damage to your computer.
If this is the first time you've seen this stop error screen, restart
your computer. If this screen appears again, Follow these steps:
Check to be sure you have adequate disk space. If a driver is identified
in the stop message, disable the driver or check with the manufacturer
for driver updates. Try changing video adapters.
Check with your hardware vendor for any BIOS updates. Disable BIOS
Memory option such as caching or shadowing. If you need to use Safe Mode
to remove or disable components, restart your computer and press F8 to
select Advance Start up options, and then select Safe Mode.
Technical Information:
*** STOP: 0x0000007E (0xc0000005, 0xF78350BF,0xF7C81208,0xF7C80F08)
*** PCI. sys-address F8350BF base at F782E000, Datestamp 3b7d855c
This is a new build with a Samsung Spinpoint SP2504C SATAII Drive but
when this occurred i thought that it might be the drive that was the
problem.So i therefore put it i my Old PC and tried to install Windows
XP-Pro onto it which i did with no problems at all.
I then put the drive back in my New PC where it Booted Up First Time and
runs OK and i have even installed Software onto it.In fact i am using at
this very minute as i type.
Unfortunately when i still try to Reinstall Windows XP-Pro on my New Build
with my P965 i get the same Error Message as above.
Can anybody please help.
Thanks
P965 Platinum
Intel Core 2 Duo E6300
Samsung Spinpoint SP2504C SATAII
Corsair 1GB DDR2 Twin2X(5x512MB)
inno3D GeForce 7600GT
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme Music Sound Card
NEC ND-3520 DVD
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro
Thermaltake Toughpower 600W
Thermaltake Tsunami Dream Case

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I hope you don't mind me asking this question for Jack the Newbie.
You say i have to use a Windows XP-Pro Install-CD that includes SP2 as well as the JMicron driver for the JMicron IDE-Port which i have my Optical Drive connected to.I know this is telling me how to fix my problem, but what i would also like to know is WHY do i have to install it with SP2 & the JMicron driver like this on my P965 when it installed on my old pc with just the XP-Pro Install-CD.
Your Windows Installation CD should be as up to date as possible, especially for newer hardware. SP1 is from 2002, SP2 was released in 2004. Neither SP1 nor SP2 install CDs provide the proper drivers for the JMicron chipset used on your mainboard. I cannot give a detailed list about the differences between SP1 and SP2. I just know, that there are a lot of problems when people do not use SP2 on Intel 975/965 Chipset-boards which where released in 2006.
When you say that your installation works fine on your old PC I believe you. It worked on my old Laptop too. However I was not able to install XP Pro on my 975X-board without SP2 at all until I upgraded my Installation CD.
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Garfield,
I had exactly the same problem--because I had my optical drive hooked up to a Promise IDE controller, rather than to a mobo IDE connection. Turns out the Promise will read and write the optical drives OK, just won't boot from them properly. And, somehow, that affects Windows Setup.
I don't know anything about the JMicron and the need for SP2. But, as you can see from my sig, I'm using XP Pro SP1, and once I moved my NEC 3500 back to the mobo IDE (as secondary behind my IDE hard disk) everything worked like a champ.
Just my $.02.
Stahlwird
To relate Garfields problem with your solution is a mistake. Your board does not use any JMicron hardware, has NVidia chipset instead of Intel and an AMD CPU. Your are talking about a totally different Setup here.

I need help getting my P965 Platinum board to work

ok, I've tried researching it and searching the forums but I'm still having a lot of trouble and it's all a tad bit confusing. I've finally gotten all the stuff hooked up but I've run into trouble. My dvd drive and hard drive are both IDE and they aren't being recognized in BIOS, although I can select them as boot devices(the exact devices like ASUS DVD, not the generic cd-rom one). After it goes through th msi logo screen it goes to a screen with JMICRON stuff on it with the name of my hard drive in blue and my dvd drive in green, and to press any key to continue. If I try to boot from an xp cd in the dvd drive it gives me an :
"CDBOOT : Couldn't find NTLDR
Error loading OS"
error.
I think getting this error may have to do with the dvd drive and hard drive not being recognized in BIOS. Now, I read that one solution was putting the drivers on a floppy and booting from that. Of course I don't have one but I was able to scrounge one up from somewhere but with no blank floppies. I rewrote over a couple of the old one I had, one doesn't get recognized when I put it in and trying to boot from it give me an error and tells me to remove and media, the other is unformattable and the last one gives me an error that just says it cannot boot or there was a boot error. I download the driver folder and all I did was copy the inside of the floppy32 folder and paste that onto the floppy. Please help me, I'm on the end of my rope here. I've been dealing with one installation problem after another and now I feel even more broken now hat I know how p965 doesn't have native IDE support. I don't have SATA anything, but I do have a cd burner, a flash drive, an xp disc and possibly floppy stuff.
Here are my specs:
Asus 16x optical drive
Seagate 250 gb hdd
MSI P965 platinum motherboard
2 gigs of Patriot extreme performance ddr2 800 RAM
MSI geforce 880 gts(320 mb)
OCZ Game X stream 600 watt psu
Enermax CS-718 case
E6600 processor
I went to the g4 forums so I could bother them about it because I didn't want to bring up something that's already been answered on here, but I've gotten barely any help from them and all the issues I've read about on here don't exactly relate to my situation and are kinda confusing. Thank you for your help.

Seems like some who have tried two devices on the JMICRON IDE port have had trouble. Try without the hard drive and see if you get that error. If that is the case I would try a PATA to SATA converter for your hard drive and connect it to one of the Intel SATA Ports.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812107112
http://www.amazon.com/ADDONICS-IDE-SERIAL-CONVERTER-ADIDESA/dp/B000090169
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=339900#ts
http://www.xpcgear.com/ide2sata.html
http://www.ubuyitdirect.com/-p-1045.html?currency=USD
http://www.satasite.com/sata-ide-converter.htm
http://www.pcgears.com/default.aspx?oid=187150

Comments on my proposed build using the P965 Platinum

My current PC is over three years old and I'm itching to upgrade. I'm starting off with Windows XP but will move to Vista eventually.
This is what I've come up with so far and I'd welcome any comments:
MSI P965 Platinum
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz
2 x Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 2048MB CL5 Kit w/two matched CM2X1024A-6400 (4GB in total)
HIS Radeon X1950PRO 256MB GDDR3, IcQ3
Hiper PSU ATX 580W Black, Type-M
Samsung SpinPoint T166 500GB SATA2
LG DVD±RW burner, GSA-H42NRBB
I'm not a game player but want to be able to run all the Vista eye candy when I eventually upgrade. I do thrash my machine a fair bit with downloaded stuff that needs parity checking, decompressing and converting if necessary. I also tend to have loads of applications running at the same time. I'm not interested in overclocking.
I also have the following questions:
1. I understand that Windows XP won't recognise the full 4 GB of RAM, will Vista?
2. Is it worth having 4GB RAM under Windows XP in preference to 2GB?
3. Can I get by installing without a floppy drive as my DVD Drive isn't a SATA one and I'll need the additional drivers. Can a windows install recognise drivers on other media such as a memory card in a card reader attached via USB or a USB pen drive?
4. Will my power supply be adequate? I will be adding hard drives as time goes on and possibly another optical drive.
5. What advantage is there to running the SATA drives under AHCI and if necessary will I be able to pull the drive out and access it in another PC with a different BIOS?
I've not built a machine for ages, so I'm well out of practice and spending ages on research. I'll be grateful for any help you can give me.
Thanks
Teresa

I do development and such. Run one or two VM's at a time. A lot of apps running at same time.
I went with the P6N Platinum. The chipset seems pretty good.
I went with the E6600 and same RAM, although I went with 4 gigs due to the VM's running.
After reading some reviews and such, I would recommend going with the Saphire 512 version of the X1950 Pro, which I did. I'm running Vista Business and the Aero interface is good and my index from Vista, for what its worth, is about 5.9 with the 3-D stuff.
I'm not familiar with the PSU. While I've worked with a couple other major PSU companies, I have NEVER been burned by PC Power & Cooling's products. A little more expensive, but they have been rock solid. I've been able to hang onto their PSU's over the years until the wattage becomes too much of an issue, to which I buy whatever covers it.
I tend to never use anything other than Pioneer or Plextor on the optical stuff. For video work and my experience in the duplication area, both companies products have far exceeded the performance, longevity and fewest coasters for the small difference in price difference.
XP X64 will see the full 4 gigs. X32 editions will not. I would suggest going to X64 Vista when you make that move, however you'll have to do a clean install. Drivers can be a bit of a tough thing, but I need rock solid performance and that gives me that.
2 Gigs is really pretty good. With XP, it will see the extra space and take around 500-600 megs to improve performance. With Vista, its about double that. Running a lot of apps or doing some memory intensive apps, such as graphic suites, etc, you will not regret 4 gigs. That will lighten the load on disk paging.
I didn't install a floppy. I had to dig around and found some utilities for format a USB key and boot to a DOS. So I use that, setting the bootup on the board to use the memory key as the initial bootup device. From there I've been able to do RAM testing as well as flash bios.
I'm running around a 520W PSU. But its a solid 520. But with the high performance card and 4 SATA HD's and the optical, I will probably upgrade up to the 750W PC Power and Cooling. That's what is recommended by their selector for the board anyways. For now, I have not found any problems in the PSU end.
Lance

P965 Platinum system freeze

I have a problem with my new system. Every time I start downloading with a download program (e.g. utorrent, Azereus) the system freezes after 5 minutes. This also happens (but taking longer before freezing) when I use MS Office or MSN. When the system freezes I can't do anything, the mouse isn't reacting, no error message, no blue screen nothing. The only thing i can do is reset my system. After booting up there is no error message, or anything suggesting a problem. I've update my bios, raid drivers, VGA drivers, or any driver i could think of. I also tried using the SATA 7 (Jmicron) controller, but same problem.
The strange thing is that after i used my IDE HD as master drive for windows and not the SATA HD I could download using utorrent (eg). It seems the problem lies with my MB or my SATA HD, but i don't know how to fix it.
Can anybody help me!?

Quote from: Bakker on 14-November-06, 06:36:17
How does this explain the fact that everything works 'fine' except when i download? I can copy my complete IDE disk to my SATA disk without any problems.
The PSU comes with my Antec Sonata II, haven't heard much problems with this case and PSU!? Please en-light me.
you PSU stats is very weak to handle your entire PC specification which contain:
- MSI P965 Platinum
- AMI v1.1
- Intel core 2 6600 @ 2.40Ghz
- PQI Turbo Memory, 1024 MB, DDR2, PC4200, 533 MHz, 2 x
- Club3D Videokaart PCI-e Radeon X1900RX 256MB GDDR3 (Catalyst 06.10)
- SmartPower 2.0 450W ATX12V v2.01
- Maxtor DiamondMax 10 (SATA) 320GB, SATA 1 (master)
- HDA MAXTOR 160.0Gb 7200RPM 6Y160P0 IDE 1 (master)
- BenQ DVD-/+RW DW1655, IDE 5 (master)
- Lite-on CD-Rom, IDE 3 (master)
- ITE IT8212 ATA RAID controller (for IDE 3-6)
- Windows XP SP2
read here why is so important are PSU stats: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=77071.0 (especially for your VGA)
Reason for your issue can be other, or more than one problem, but your weak PSU is most suspected for me at this time.
Tests to be performed:
get 3DMark 06 --> http://www.futuremark.com/download/3dmark06/
and leave your system to loop tests for 3-4 hours.
get S&M 1.8.1 (160) ------> http://files.extremeoverclocking.com/file.php?f=127
setup CPU priority to long run, include all test, and Power Supply Test too, VGA Heating and toward included.
freezing may come from RAM too or to be software related. get Memtest86 (use test N5 only to test ---c,1,3,5 keyboard shortcuts from a program, lets make 20 loops on test N5, ensure no errors there occur)

P965 Platinum - memory troubles

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