PageMaker ".bcf" to Illustrator ".csf" MUNSELL

Does anyone know if there is a way to adapt a PageMaker color library (BCF file) to an Illustrator color settings file (CSF)? I would like to be able to work within the Munsell color scheme in Illustrator... Pagemaker used to have a Munsell color library.
Or alternatively, is there a Munsell color pallete in .ai?

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Dorinda,
the best place for defining color setting files is IMO
Photoshop by Edit > Color Settings.
Examples:
RGB: sRGB or AdobeRGB(1998) (may be called aRGB).
CMYK: SWOP or ISOCoated or the profile as supplied by
your printer.
Grayscale: Dot Gain 20% (for Coated) or for instance
Black Ink ISO Coated, which is derived from ISOCoated.
Never a 'Gamma'.
Spot: widely uncertain, use Dot Gain 20% or Black Ink
ISO Coated.
The settings can be saved in Photoshop by an understan-
dable filename, for instance by:
aRGB-ISO-20-20.csf
In Bridge simply load this file for synchronisation,
especially if local settings in Photoshop, InDesign or
Illustrator were changed.
For Acrobat I would rely more on actual local settings.
For instance, a document's output rendering intent can
override working spaces.
Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

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Hi, here are some more details:
I´m working on a layout-job, that involves both Adobe CS and Microsoft Word, and since I haven´t found any forums that comprises both, I´m putting my questions here and have been very grateful for the help I already got from your answers. These are some precise details of my task:
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Any help appreciated...

> I am, regretfully, in the process of converting some
3000+ croquie drawings
> from Freehand (where they were created) to Illustrator.
I have found
> work-arounds and methods to pull most elements in -
however I have 1500 or so
> color swatches that I would like to avoid recreating in
Illustrator. Does
> anyone know of a method for converting Freehand BCF
files into Illustrator
> readable files?
It goes like this.
1. Create empty FreeHand document
2. Import BCF colors into swatches
3. Save the document and export as Illustrator 5 file (AI)
(Version 7 don't work)
4. The ai files is ready to be used as Illustrator library
file. Swatches > Open Swatch Library > Other Library ory copy
to Illustrator's Presets/Swatches folder
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The apparel sketches are done in Illustrator, and normally what I do is raterize the files and place them into InDesign. I've been encountering some difficulties lately, however and I wanted to see if I could get some input as to whether or not this is best practice. (It has never been an issue in the past, but the document size was maybe half- around 20-30 pages.)
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I've only been working with 5.5 for a few months and never on documents this large, but this project is ongoing, so I need to get a handle on this situation.
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Hm, okay.
How would I know if the file is corrupt?
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I did inherit it, but have since used it as a template and "saved as" various versions. I'm not really sure if it started in 5 or not.
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When i do the same in InDesign & Photoshop, the correct profiles are used as (i'm assuming) they are contained within the CSF file itself?
This means that i can have synchronized colour settings with totally inconsistent results because the ICC profiles are different from Mac to Mac & CS app to CS app etc.
Can you please fix this to work the same as Photoshop and InDesign?
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Matt

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The example http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/quickstart/color_correction_as3.html also uses wmode="opaque" so it fails today. Publishing the downlodable source files and viewing them with wmode="window" makes the feature work again. Could your team please fix this for the other wmodes - especially "opaque"?

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