PAL DVD mit FCPX und Compressor 4

I have FCPX and compressor 4 installed on a new imac. I edited my firs project. 27 minutes of scuba diving. When I export the movie to DVD the quality of the pictures in the movie is poor. I made in compressor a preset in changing from NTSC to PAL and I changed to 16:9. The movie was then in toast only 800 MB and the quality is very poor. Can somebody tellmy how to make a PAL DVD in good quaity, 2-3 GB?How do I have to change the preset in compressor?
Thanks for your help. By the way I love FCPX!

Try making the Compressor quality two-pass VBR between 6.5 and 7.5. Or try one-pass CBR at 7.5. You don't have to export the whole movie, just pick a problem section and mark in and out points in the Compressor preview.

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Issues with Motion in Using Compressor for a PAL DVD

I am new to DVD Studio Pro and Compressor and am trying to create a DVD of a 50 minute PAL project that I made using FCP. I have found a couple tutorials on how to export my project using compressor to be compatible with DSP via pre sets (DVD: Best Quality 4:3) and actually manipulating the controls myself. I have found in using both techniques that during any scene with motion, the edges of the moving actor become blurred and grainy. The tutorials that I checked out I assume (since they were from the US) were for NTSC projects, is there any other considerations that I should make in compressing a PAL project, which might contribute to this graininess? Any ideas?
Any help would be much appreciated. I have included my settings from Compressor below.
Thanks.
Name: MPEG-2 6.2Mbps 2-pass 4:3
Description: Fits up to 90 minutes of video with Dolby Digital audio at 192 Kbps or 60 minutes with AIFF audio on a DVD-5
File Extension: m2v
Estimated file size: 273.48 MB
Type: MPEG-2 video elementary stream
Video Encoder
Format: M2V
Width: 720
Height: 576
Pixel aspect ratio: PAL CCIR 601
Crop: None
Frame rate: 25
Frame Controls: Off
Aspect ratio: 4:3
Field dominance: Bottom first
Average data rate: 6.2 (Mbps)
2 Pass VBR enabled
Maximum data rate: 7.7 (Mbps)
High quality
Best motion estimation
Closed GOP Size: 12, Structure: IBBP
DVD Studio Pro meta-data enabled

The general concepts are the same in terms of maintaining quality throughout the work process in terms of Codecs, exports etc.
As to the motion areas, compression markers in FCP can help in problem areas. What you should do is grab some of the problems sections and drop markers in there and encode them. Some of the frame controls can help, depending on source footage. What was the original material and cpautred/edited? Sometimes things in there can also give quality hits.
Lastly some things (like real black outfits on light backgrounds) can cause some edging issues which can take some work to clean up as much as possible...

PAL DVD in Compressor

I am looking to make a PAL region DVD and I have compressor to do so, but I need to know how I go about doing that. Can anyone supply me with some solutions?

Simboc wrote:
What could I be missing?
You need to apply the – MPEG2 and Dolby Digital settings from the Disc Burning folder.
Russ

Using FCPx and Compressor dvd stutters

Using FCPx and Compressor I have put a 2 minute film on a dvd but when I play the dvd it stutters irregularly. I have tried lots of different settings and need HD quality. Can anyone help please? Thanks Helen

Are you putting a ProRes file on a standard DVD? You can't play it back. The DVD disc his nowhere near the through put needed to support high data rate media. The DVD format is very heavily compressed to allow proper play back, which that can be managed off the disc.

Urgent: Progressive possible for PAL DVD?

Hi all
I'm making NTSC and PAL versions of the same DVD.
On the NTSC version we have encoded all the menus (short movies created in FCPX) as 23.98 progressive in Compressor, to stop the title text flickering due to interlacing. This worked perfectly, no more flickering text.
For the PAL version however Compressor's PAL DVD settings only mention 25i, no progressive options seem available.
Any suggestions on how to repeat this on the PAL side?
Thanks everyone - Jon

If you're creating a DVD, there's really no choice of codecs, since DVD video is a very specific and tightly constrained form of MPEG-2 video. MPEG-2 video is highly compressed and is not a high-definition format, so it is absolutely unavoidable that export to DVD video will cause some quality loss. This is true for even professionally created DVDs. There is an MPEG-2 DVD export preset in After Effects that you can choose from the Format menu in the Output Module Settings dialog box.
If, however, you're handing off your video as input to a larger work, and you need to create an intermediate file that preserves all detail for as long as possible in the post-production pipeline, then you should render and export using lossless encoding. My preference for creating losslessly compressed intermediate files from 8-bit-per-channel sources is the PNG video codec in a QuickTime (MOV) container.
See this FAQ entry (and the pages that it links to) for more information about compression and choosing settings for specific purposes:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/729526
You mentioned "jerky" output. See this FAQ entry for information about losslessly encoded movies and how they are not suited for playback:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/684381
Or perhaps the jerkiness is coming from the frame-rate mismatch between your 30fps source and 25fps composition. If so, then frame blending can help.

How do I convert an entire PAL DVD to NTSC, menus and all?

Hello everyone,
I've been given a set of PAL DVD's which need to be converted into NTSC. Now, from my understanding, there is no one program available that can do this, so I've had to rip all the video tracks off, convert them to NTSC mp2's and author the DVD from the ground up in DVDSP, build a VIDEO_TS file, then use Toast to compress to a single layer DVD and burn. If anyone knows a program that can convert an entire PAL DVD to NTSC, that would be greatly appreciated.
The next problem is that when I burn any of the DVD's and put them in a duplication tower (I'm not sure if that's the actual name, but it's one of those machines where you just put the original disc in the top drive and fill the other 8 or so drives under it with blanks), it says that the burn has failed. I have tried another duplication tower and end with the same result. One option I have not tried just yet is to change the brand of media I'm using to burn, but will do so next chance I get.
I'm not sure if the two problems are related or not, but I just thought it would help.
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2 options.
1) Best option - only available if you have the source material - Convert source material from PAL to NTSC using the Nattress standards converter.
http://www.nattress.com/Products/standardsconversion/standardsconversion.htm
or the JES deinterlacer:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~jeschot/home.html
It's also possible to do this in Compressor but not as good quality and longer render times.
2) If you don't have the source footage, you'll need to demux the file in MPeg Streamclip:
http://www.squared5.com/
then transcode the file as described here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1946985&#1946985

How to produce a progressively encoded PAL DVD?

I've been tearing my hair out trying to get a conclusive answer to this. I'm trying to learn how to produce a PAL DVD that is encoded "progressively" and is not interlaced.
First I posted about it here in the Compressor forum, and then over at Ken Stone's forum.
To summarise , here's what I've been doing:
1. Export from FCP using Compressor
2. Apply the DVD preset
3. In the Inspector window, click the Frame Controls tab
4. Set the Resize Filter to Better or Best
5. Set Output fields to Progressive
6. Set Deinterlace to Better or Best
7. Uncheck Adaptive Details
8. Hit Submit and give your job a name
9. Import .m2v and .ac3 to DVD Studio Pro
10. Author and burn DVD
However, this is not producing a proper progressive encode - inspecting the .m2v asset (using VidoSpec) tells me that it is "lower field first."
Can anybody please advise? This is driving me crazy, and each time we issue a DVD reviewers pick up on the fact that it is not "flagged for progressive". Is this something that needs setting up as an option in DVDSP?

I need to read up about this topic also. I release Retail DVDs and have always shot in interlaced mode and released that way up until now
Now I am doing my first proper feature. I am advised to shoot progressive scan.
I am assuming from this thread that to produce commercial DVD that will play on all TVs and with all DVD players I will need to encode the final film to DVDStudio pro in Interlaced mode. (in other words in order to be played on all TVs the DVD needs to be interlaced not progressive scan. But to achieve a "Film Look" I need to shoot progressive. (I have not yet considered whether 24 fps or 25)
The film is aimed at a wide film fest, probably using a digital print, but I doubt we will get as far as transferring from High Def video to film (because of the expense) But I imaging the major market for the film internationally will be on DVD.
I am hoping to use a DOP, so hopefully will get more technical help there.
Best
Ian
Corolo Film & Video

Burning PAL dvd from NTSC FCP 6 project?

I need to burn a European market PAL dvd sample from a NTSC project. I've done this before for a European film festival, but it was a very hit or miss process.. Basically, back then, I mixed the project down as both PAL and NTSC files, then burned every combination of NTSC and PAL format DVDs (PAL file/PAL dvd format, NTSC file/PAL dvd format, PAL file NTSC format, and NTSC file/NTSC format).. I expected the PAL/PAL to work, but it didn't. In fact, I seem to remember that one of the combos that I least expected to work actually did.. maybe the NTSC/PAL disk (can't remember for sure)
Will someone please advise me as to the correct way to burn the NTSC project, such that it will be playable an European PAL format machines?

If you need a true PAL dvd, you need to convert your ntsc quicktime to a PAL quicktime using either compressor or something like graeme Natrresses standard conversion plug in. You will also need to recreate your dvd menus and reauthor the dvd.

NTSC project - PAL DVD

Hello,
I'm editing a project in NTSC (since I shot in NTSC), but my client is European and wants the final project on a PAL DVD. How can I output the project to PAL?
Do I convert it first in Final Cut (how is this done?) or does transfering the project to iDVD in PAL do the trick? It needs to be highest possible quality.
Thank you for suggestions and helpful 'how tos.'

on the basis of your need for highest quality, two options:
1- send a tape to a facility house who will standards convert the mataerial to a PAL tape which you can then import in a PAL sequence
2- purchase Nattress which is a software standards converter and a FCP plug-in,
it costs $100 and worth every cent
you could use Compressor, but for quality use Natress as it is a very high quality dedicated Standards Converter
once you have edited in a PAL sequence, compress to m2v and AC3 and import into DVDSP and author the DVD
all you need to know is on the web site:
http://www.nattress.com/Products/standardsconversion/standardsconversion.htm

FCPX -- ProRessHQ -- Compressor 4 -- Blu-ray .264 of 1.69GB

Hi,
When I export a 2 hour and 16min movie from FCPX to Compressor 4 and convert it to a Blu-ray .264 file I'll end up with a file of 1.69GB. This is not normal. I used the default settings to create a Blu-ray file.
When I export a 2 hour and 16min movie from FCPX to Compressor 4 and convert it to a ProRess HQ file I'll end up with a file of 191GB. This is normal.
But when I convert this ProRess HQ file to a Blu-ray file .264 I'll end up again with a file of 1.69GB. This is not normal.
What am I doing wrong?
Is the movie to long for a Blu-ray and is Compressor confused because it's more than 2 hours?
When I convert the same ProRess HQ file to m2v (dvd) I'll end up with a file of 3,79GB. Tat's ok. No problem with that one.
For the Blu-ray file .264 I use the default setting from Compressor 4.
Thanks for helping me out...

SOLVED
Ok, this is my workflow. I hope it works also for you...
PS : It also solve my other problem : FCPX --> ProRessHQ --> Compressor 4 --> Blu-ray .264 of 1.69GB
Step 1 : Export to ProRes422HQ
Export your project to a ProRes422HQ .mov file. You can do this also via Compressor. This still works.
Step 2 : Download x264
Download the x264 program via this link : http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/x264/binaries/macosx-x86-64/
This program is free but not that easy to use. Took me some time to find (via 'The Internet') the correct syntax so that Adobe Encore CS5.5 and Toast 11 accepted the file without transcoding or re-encoding the generated .264 file.
Step 3 : Encoding the .mov file to a.264 file using x264
Use these commands to generate the .264 file. This is for a 25p file. But you can also use x264 for 24p/30p/... movies. You only have to change the --fps and --keyint options. You can also play with the bitrates.
Pass 1 :
x264-r2453-ea0ca51 --bitrate 22000 --fake-interlaced --tune film --bluray-compat --fps 25 --force-cfr --bframes 3 --ref 4 --muxer raw --no-weightb --weightp 0 --b-pyramid none --vbv-maxrate 22000 --vbv-bufsize 22000 --level 4.1 --profile high --keyint 25 --min-keyint 1 --slices 4 --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 1 -oOutPutFile.264 --input-res 1920x1080 InputFile_ProRes422HQ.mov
Pass 2 :
x264-r2453-ea0ca51 --bitrate 22000 --fake-interlaced --tune film --bluray-compat --fps 25 --force-cfr --bframes 3 --ref 4 --muxer raw --no-weightb --weightp 0 --b-pyramid none --vbv-maxrate 22000 --vbv-bufsize 22000 --level 4.1 --profile high --keyint 25 --min-keyint 1 --slices 4 --colorprim "bt709" --transfer "bt709" --colormatrix "bt709" --sar 1:1 --pass 2 -oOutPutFile.264 --input-res 1920x1080 InputFile_ProRes422HQ.mov
PS: There is also another option, for beter results, I'm testing for the moment and that is this one : --preset very slow.
Step 4 : Create the .ac3 audio file via Compressor
Import the ProRes422HQ file into Compressor and create only the ac3 audio file.
Step 5 : Import the .264 and .ac3 file into Toast or Adobe Encore.
If al goes well, Adobe Encore doesn't need to transcode the .264 file.
And in Toast you set via the custom option that no re-encoding is needed.
Step 6 : Burn and enjoy...
I hope this workflow works for all of you...
If not, we need to find out what's wrong...

Burning a DVD from FCPX

My workflow is as follows:
1. Shoot in HXR-NX5u Sony AVCHD 1920x1080 | 29.97 fps
2. Import as is to FCPX letting FCPX create the project properties according to the first clip
3. Edit and create project.
4. Export as ProRes 422
5. Burn with iDVD to a PAL DVD 16:9
My result is an acceptable DVD. My only issue is with pans and fast zooms there remains a "choppiness" in the videos when played on DVD player and computer alike. This choppiness is not present on the exported ProRes 422 file, nor is it present on a Vimeo export that I did. Only on the DVD wherever it is played.
Any suggestion?
Thanks.
When I say choppy, I mean that when the frame pans it seems as if it is skipping frames and jumping to the next. It is not skipping frames though because this is not apparent on steadily framed shots. It is a shame because my montages come out so beautifully and when I burn them I get this choppiness which gives me a sub par result.

The following are the settings I am attempting at the moment..I'll let you know the outcome...
Name: MPEG-2 for DVD with recom v1
Description: MPEG-2 elementary stream for DVD Authoring
File Extension: m2v
Estimated size: 2.36 GB
Type: MPEG-2 video elementary stream
          Usage:SD DVD
Video Encoder
          Width: 720
          Height: 576
          Pixel aspect ratio: PAL CCIR 601 (16:9)
          Crop: (L: 63, T: 0, R: 63, B: 0)
          Padding: None
          Frame rate: 25
          Frame Controls On:
                    Retiming: (Best) High quality Motion Compensated
                    Resize Filter: Linear Filter
                    Deinterlace Filter: Best (Motion Compensated)
                    Adaptive Details: On
                    Antialias: 0
                    Detail Level: 0
                    Field Output: Bottom Field First
          Start timecode from source
          Aspect ratio: 16:9
          Field dominance: Bottom first
          Average bit rate: 7 (Mbps)
          Best motion estimation
          Closed GOP Size: 12, Structure: IBBP
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PAL DVD Issues

I'm not sure if this question is for this forum but I'll give it a shot.
My original FCP Project was an PAL HDV Project. Once I finished editing, I put the sequence in a DV PAL sequence, rendered it and outputted as a FCP file. I put that file in compressor to make a m2v PAL file. I took the file into DVD SP as a PAL project and burned it as a SD DVD on the G5.
The DVD tested fine on a several DVD players.
My problem is that I sent the DVD to Europe and they are experiencing major 'strobing' issues. I know there is some jitterness with HDV on motion scenes, but they are seeing constant strobing on their PAL DVD players. Am I doing something wrong. I took the DVD to a post house in Los Angeles, and it plays fine in their PAL systems. It actually play fine in my NTSC DVD player as well.
There isn't much motion in the film, mostly interviews.
Any clues of why this would happen?

It was originally shot in PAL 1080i50 on a Sony Zu1. I am assuming that is true PAL.
I made a DV PAL sequence first because the rendering time and conversion time to m2v files is much less.
Is the DVD burner that are installed on G5's capable of burning true PAL DVD's? I have one of the original G5's.

Pal dvd settings

I have accidently deleted all the apple dvd settings out of compressor 3. Ive been told the only way to get them back would be to re install final cut studio. Its not possible for me to do this at the moment.
Would it be possible for any one who works in pal and makes pal dvds to recommend settings to me. I only have one setting at the moment which is constant bit rate to make preview disks.
Thanks for any help

Here is a guide to help you if you want to uninstall and reinstall compressor only.
http://www.digitalrebellion.com/blog/posts/howto_reinstall_compressor_andqmaster.html

HD NTSC to PAL DVD workflow... help?

Hi all,
I poured through the forums regarding this question and could not find a suitable answer. And (of course) I am in a rush for my client.
I have shot and edited a DVCPRO HD 720x60P video, and now I need to get this thing into a PAL DVD.
I tried exporting the video as Apple Pro-Res 422 PAL, and there are problems with the aspect ratio changing, and about 60% of the cross dissolves flash black for a second.
Anyway, after reading through the forums, I realize that I am in the dark for a workflow to get this video out of FCP and into either DVDSP or iDVD (this will be a simple DVD, and iDVD is good enough), and make sure it plays on a DVD player in Scotland.
Any suggestions as to how to best get from point A to point B?
Also, is there no PAL that is close to 16:9?
Sorry for the silly questions... I am out of my comfort zone here... and on the clock.
Matt

From what I understand from my PAL land friends, their current generation DVD players can deal with NTSC disks. Why don't you check with the person who will play it back and see what equipment they have.
You did not say how you did the conversion but I would do this.
• Export a file from FCP using "current settings"
• Import it into Compressor
• Apply the advanced format conversion preset for DV/PAL anamorphic and submit the job
This will give you an 16:9 DV/PAL video.
If this has problems, you may need to do the conversion in two steps.
• Export a file from FCP using "current settings"
• Import it into Compressor
• Apply the advanced format conversion preset for DV/NTSC anamorphic and submit the job
• Import the resulting DV/NTSC anamorphic file into compressor
• Apply the advanced format conversion preset for DV/PAL anamorphic and submit the job
x

Trouble burning a PAL DVD

Hi, I am having issues with trying to burn PAL DVDs.
We have a distributor that requires PAL DVDs as screeners with & without TC burn.
They required we take our masters (HDCAM, 1920 X 1080, progressive, 23.98 fps) & send it to a post house that could do an Alchemist conversion & make 1080 50i, 25 fps masters on HDCAM.
This was done & we have captured the tape to FCP in a PAL project. Exported out & files went through compressor using DVD Best quality - 90 min template.
Confirmed that files are correct size & speed in inspector.
In DVDSP i set the project up as PAL.
There are no menus - just the program with 5-6 chapter markers.
PAL DVD was created as region free.
When we check the DVD on a region free deck the playback is very jerky.
Have tried playback tests with commercial PAL DVDs & they play back fine.
Anybody have any idea what I might be doing wrong?
Using a 12 core macpro with FCS 3
If you need more detail please let me know .
THANKS.

Russ: Converting the standard is not an option through Compressor as they absolutely need the timing to be the same. I am the post person, so it is not my call. The producer's have determined that this what they have to do (right or wrong). I can do a test with the master file in compressor to see if I get better results, but it is something that I cannot deliver.
Nick: Again it is not my call. I have pointed it out to the producers & was told that is not acceptable to them. So it is my hoop to jump through. I have told them about the NTSC DVDs vs PAL & their response is that is not acceptable. We don't need worry about DVD replication anymore as all of our sales will become either digital, or delivery through this means by the distributor from the HDCAM 50i masters & using the PAL DVDs as reference.
Michael: We are monitoring the video from FCP with an AJA KONA 3G card to a broadcast monitor thru SDI (dont remeber the exact model - think it is a panasonic monitor). I will try your test as well, but I think that if I can't get the DVDs to work the way they want them then they are going to get the post house that made the 50i masters to make the PAL DVDs for them as well. They would rather not do this as all I am told is it is expensive, so they would rather not. If it comes to it, and it might based on our deadline, then they will go that route if they feel forced to.
Thanks to all three of you for the suggestions.

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