PAL footage problem

I put a PAL DVD into mpeg streamclip and converted it to NTSC .dv. The video footage is fine but the audio is out of sync. Can someone explain why, and if there is a way to fix it? Thanks.

Hi - apologies in advance if it is against forum protocol to piggy-back onto someone else's thread, but it seemed to make sense as it refers to the issue I am going to ask about. I would of course be happy to post a brand new question though. Might even be more for iDVD forum.
I am in the UK and produced a DVD in PAL. Some people in the USA wanted a copy, but perhaps unsurprisingly have come back saying the discs won't play in their DVD players. So the question is what is the easiest way to provide them with an NTSC version.
I created a duplicate of the existing DVD project, saved it, went to Project Info and changed Video Mode to NTSC and went to burn the new project. It said it would have to re-encode assets. I proceeded and it took about 7 hours to complete. I was therefore hopeful that meant a successful conversion from PAL to NTSC. With that in mind I put the DVD into my player expecting it not to play, but it does. So now i'm not sure if i've actually done what I wanted to. Perhaps the only sure way to tell is to ship the disc over to the US for them to try - but before doing so thought it would be worth asking you guys if you knew what I have tried to do is an unworkable shortcut and what I need to do instead as plan B is as recommended in the other thread ie create a new DVD project using NTSC Video Mode, import the reference movie, and start the DVD project from scratch. Or is it that the conversion has worked, but iDVD makes a poor job of it and so I should resort to plan B anyway?
Many thanks in advance for your help.

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