PAL output of NTSC project sequence in FCP?

Hey there,
I'm using a powermac g5 with FCP HD 4.5 and osx 10.4.
I need to output a sequence shot NTSC to a quicktime movie that will go to a PAL minidv and PAL dvd.
Will there be artefacts or flicker if I simply choose a Pal (25fps) output from the FCP Quicktime movie output, and let FCP convert in the output?
In the past , I have tried cut and pasting the ntsc footage from an ntsc fcp sequence to a Pal fcp sequence, but frames are lost in the rendering.
Are these the best ways of achieving a conversion in FCP or can anyone advise otherwise?
Thanks
Richard
Powermac g5 Mac OS X (10.4)

Suspicious of what?
I tried that setting. It didn't work. No idea why. That's why I tried many other ways.
I have now successfully made a PAL DVD by having Encore transcode the NTSC version, but the results are UGLY. Smearing, ghosting, interacing artifacts. It looks like garbage now.
Right at this moment I am trying the sttings you state above, yet again, and hoping for success once I get into Adobe Encore. Maybe something magic will happen. I'll report back if it does.
UPDATE: No idea how or why, but I did it. Somehow the last time was the charm. I have a PAL DVD.
However, I am not very happy that Premiere Pro chose to drop 1 frame per second tather than just give me the film at 25fps. That kind of conversion is really not very hot.
So there MUST be a better way of doing this.

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or
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or
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I understand your pain, believe me - and if your client is specifically asking for PAL, then that is what you have to deliver.
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Final option is to check with client & ask them why they need PAL - which I have to congfess raises one question in my mind:
WHen you shot the footage, had you been asked to supply NTSC or PAL originally? If they asked for NTSC, then you should charge them for the reworking to PAL.
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Hi,
I have read this thread but am a little unclear and would appreciate some help.
I have shot 3 short movies in PAL anamorphic, edited in Final Cut Express HD 3.5, exported using the Quicktime Movie option, altered with QT Pro to put back to anamorphic, then added to an iDVD '08 widescreen project.
Everything is fine, but I have realised that some of the recipients are in the Bahamas and require NTSC.
The project is a paid commission so I want to ensure the conversion is as good as possible, without any re-digitising / editing.
I duplicated my iDVD project and have used the project info pane to change to NTSC format. I deleted the encoded assets and this has set of iDVD to re-encode. Is a re-burn all that is required once encoding is done?
It seems this is the easiest option, but are you suggesting the conversion can be better if i use the free JES deinterlacer product.
To integrate this into my workflow I am assuming I could duplicate my asset folder (that contains the quicktime exports from Final Cut) and convert them using JES.
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I searched the Encore CS3 manual and all four Encore forums before starting this thread. Apologies if I missed the answer.
In Encore CS3, apparently one is only allowed to specify NTSC or PAL when starting a new project. If I try File->Project Settings on an existing project, I can change the Authoring Mode between DVD and Blu-ray, but the Television Standard edit box is grayed out and cannot be changed.
I often need to release projects in both NTSC and PAL standards, and it is a royal PITA to have to start a new PAL project, import the exact same assets as for my NTSC project, then rebuild all my menus, buttons, timelines, chapters, etc.
Can the conversion be done? Am I missing an obvious method? If not, why is it that the same assets can only be bound to a given standard when importing?

I understand your concern. I don't know for sure yet myself as the client had yet to mail the discs to Italy last time I talked to them.
However, I would check to see if the people on the forum are saying they won't work because they made a mistake in changing the parameters in ifoedit or if everything was correct and it still didn't play. Also, once you make the discs, even if everything is correct, they certainly won't play in American DVD players that aren't multi-region.
Also, ifoedit is a really simple free program you can download. If you google it you should be able to find it quickly.
From the quick look at the link I gave you, it looked like a rudimentary explanation of how to do it. I need to find for you the web site I found when I did this a couple months ago. I know I saved the info somewhere on my hard drive. I will try to find it later tonight after my kids go to sleep, ha!
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If you have to change the language of the menus and all that, than you'll have to re-author the dvd in encore anyway you may as well do it through encore.

How to convert my NTSC project to PAL?

Hi! I'd like know how i can convert my ntsc project into PAL.
I need finish a DVD for my client take to ANGOLA and there is PAL system.It is possible? My Encore is 2.0.
Or It is possible put my NTSC movie into PAL project and let encore transcode the movie? Thank you very much and sorry my english.

You have several options.
1 - Create a new PAL project in Premiere Pro. Capture your footage in the usual manner, and as soon as it is in the project, hit the ENTER key to render it.
2 - Create an NTSC project in Premiere Pro, capture to NTSC DV footage, and export it out again.
Close project.
Create new PAL project, import the NTSC clip & then interpret/conform the footage to the project settings.
3 - Set up an NTSC project, capture footage, export to PAL DV or MPEG-2 from Premiere.
4 - Use TMPGEnc Xpress 4 - it's standards conversion is very good.
5 - Use ProCoder, as Ruud suggests
6 - Use CCE SP if you have it.
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